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Ment question....

DWeaver

DWeaver

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I've seen some say they take this PWO. My question is are most using ment as part of there cycle? Or are people taking it as part of A PWO pulse only? Would it be a waste of money to just take it PWO for the pumps etc...... As part of my Ostra cycle. If I did use PWO only would I need tudca or is a basic cycle assist ok. Thanks
 
I don't believe Ment is methylated. The people over at PHF swear it isn't. Idk, maybe some cycle assist.

I ran it's at 70mg-100mg. 10mg every 2 hours and 20mg PWO. I was pumped all day and felt aggressive. Reminds me of dbol a bit.
 
7a methyl nor androstenedione - menadione (mentabolan)

7a methyl nor testosterone ) methyl nor testosterone aka ment.

Yes, not sure if It's methylated.
 
It has one more methyl group than nandrolone usually does. That being said, methyl does not neccessarily = toxic. As my statement implied even regular nandrolone and regular old testosterone has methyl groups as well.

It all depends on which carbon the methyl group is attatched to. For the most part it's the 17a methyl group that increases toxicity. However, each steroid is a unique case don't forget that "protodrol" is 17a methylated and is fairly liver friendly...
 
nostrum420 said:
It has one more methyl group than nandrolone usually does. That being said, methyl does not neccessarily = toxic. As my statement implied even regular nandrolone and regular old testosterone has methyl groups as well.

It all depends on which carbon the methyl group is attatched to. For the most part it's the 17a methyl group that increases toxicity. However, each steroid is a unique case don't forget that "protodrol" is 17a methylated and is fairly liver friendly...
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I tried explaining that to him before, but he turns it into a pissing match and refusing to be wrong.
 
nostrum420 said:
It has one more methyl group than nandrolone usually does. That being said, methyl does not neccessarily = toxic. As my statement implied even regular nandrolone and regular old testosterone has methyl groups as well.

It all depends on which carbon the methyl group is attatched to. For the most part it's the 17a methyl group that increases toxicity. However, each steroid is a unique case don't forget that "protodrol" is 17a methylated and is fairly liver friendly...
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When a methyl is listed, it's implying an added methyl is attached to the molecule. This is why you don't see methyl listed for dhea, test, etc.
The structure of the compound will effect hepatotoxicity. Trenbolone isn't liver friendly. It's non methylated ( meaning an additional methyl isn't added onto the molecule.
 
DWeaver said:
I've seen some say they take this PWO. My question is are most using ment as part of there cycle? Or are people taking it as part of A PWO pulse only? Would it be a waste of money to just take it PWO for the pumps etc...... As part of my Ostra cycle. If I did use PWO only would I need tudca or is a basic cycle assist ok. Thanks
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To answer your question, it's used pre w/o d/t it's incredibly short half life.
 
Go with trest. Much stronger in my experience. Pre workout it adds pumps/recovery/endurance. And if u split it throughout the day it works like a test base.
 
jbryand101b said:
Yes, it's been/being studied as a form of contraceptive for males.
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Hahaha nice. I hear its good for agression and such, same thing as cheque drops. A little to risky for my liking tho. Id love to just dose it one time tho before sparring or something to see wat all the hypes about
 
bigbb123 said:
Hahaha nice. I hear its good for agression and such, same thing as cheque drops. A little to risky for my liking tho. Id love to just dose it one time tho before sparring or something to see wat all the hypes about
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It is not the same as cheque drops and a few people have reported a lack of aggression except perhaps in the gym or the bedroom!

In terms of risk preliminary bloods show it to be pretty mild. I'd DEFINITELY recommend a strong AI with it though.
 
I lived ment at 30 preworkout and then another 10 and 10 throughout the day
 
On PHF every one is saying that you only need half the amount of Trest vrs Ment. Ment has to convert but trest does not. Also hearing of libido increase!
 
thehogsters said:
On PHF every one is saying that you only need half the amount of Trest vrs Ment. Ment has to convert but trest does not. Also hearing of libido increase!
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jbryand101b said:
Trest oral availability has to suck.
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mattys4 said:
Agreed i would only go injectable route
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It actually seems to reasonably orally available. People are using as little as 30-40mg for libido purposes and/or around 40mg PWO for pumps. I got some raw powder and mixed up a TD but the caps were comparable and more convenient so I went back to caps...
 
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