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Recomp with Epistane / Win50 / Trenazone

chedapalooza said:
Oxyeca black
Vanillean
Versa1
Prime
Anabolic pump
Jack3d micro
Forskolin 95
Sleep maxx

Well the hope is the tempo will keep total time down... All superset pairs. 2-3 exercsises for chest back and shoulders and 1-2 exercise for bis/tris 3 days a week. Legs on their own 1x a week. Gonna be using cleans and deadlift variations as well. It's a very versatile and refreshing program. OH and I'm reducing carbs weekly down to less than 20g a day from veggies only lol
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That is a fine looking list! Under 20g of carbs a day.. wow.. Any carb up days?
 
Day 6 - Shoulders / Chest pump

Started the morning again today with a nice 5km job through the park...

Cage Press:
170x8
170x8
170x8
170x7


Arnold Press:
40x8
50x8
50x8


6 ways: yes 5lbs..and set 4 was a struggle - that is one humbling exercise.
5x10
5x10
5x10
5x10


** Face Pulls:
100x7x12


Dumbbell Twist n Press:
50x10
55x10
60x9


Incline Barbell Press: to 3/4 lockout for constant tension
170x8
170x8
190x7
190x6


** Machine Flys:
100x7x10


Standing Barbell Calves:
190x5x15

Another really good workout. Cracked open some Enhanced (2scoops) right before I left for my run. Actually felt it kick in on the last km. Enjoyed some great focus and a pretty good pump.

Dosed 150g Win50 with 10g of Epistane (decided to do 20/20 today/tomorrow to make sure all is fine). Will have the other 100g of Win50 and 10mg of Epistane around 5ish... I am taking my CEL Cycle support about 3-4 hours after these dosings. I there really any benefit to this?

Big game tonight.. Go B's...
 
Great workout wasme. Nice weight on the cage presses...and 6 ways too. :D

Go Bruins!
 
Damn Breezy, that wasn't very good...

But I finally tried the ice cream.

Went with 2 scoops protein, 1/2 cup 0% fat greek yogurt, and 1.5 skim milk. Shook for about 10 minutes.. still had abit of liquid, but perhaps I put too much milk. Was good though..
 
wasme said:
Damn Breezy, that wasn't very good...

But I finally tried the ice cream.

Went with 2 scoops protein, 1/2 cup 0% fat greek yogurt, and 1.5 skim milk. Shook for about 10 minutes.. still had abit of liquid, but perhaps I put too much milk. Was good though..
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Not good at all.

Glad you enjoyed it. The milk might've had something to do with it. Did you put a good amount of salt in the bag? I've tried making it when I didn't have enough and it just wouldn't get cold enough to freeze properly.
 
breezy11 said:
Not good at all.

Glad you enjoyed it. The milk might've had something to do with it. Did you put a good amount of salt in the bag? I've tried making it when I didn't have enough and it just wouldn't get cold enough to freeze properly.
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They only seemed to really play hard after it was 3-2 ... oh well, they'll snag the next 3...

I went with 1/2cup of salt and about 3cups of ice. I was happy with the taste and once I got rid of the extra liquid and gave it a good stir it was just like soft serve.
 
Is 6 ways done with chicks?? lol jk bro awesome update but wth is cage presses?
 
wasme said:
That is a fine looking list! Under 20g of carbs a day.. wow.. Any carb up days?
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Yea, currently enjoying one today after a 10 hour work day fueled by aminos and isopure and a 7 hour night out. Im carbing up and going Into hibernation til Monday morning :D

how r u liking the stack u got so far? I ran similar stuff back inthe day at age 19 lol stuff can mess u up if you're not educated like I was NOT!
 
chedapalooza said:
Yea, currently enjoying one today after a 10 hour work day fueled by aminos and isopure and a 7 hour night out. Im carbing up and going Into hibernation til Monday morning :D

how r u liking the stack u got so far? I ran similar stuff back inthe day at age 19 lol stuff can mess u up if you're not educated like I was NOT!
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So far, I have noticed some muscle hardness, pumps last alot longer and yesterday and today I am more vascular. Also noticed, my last two workouts I felt far more driven. Mind you, those workouts were in the morning, with no work and no household chores waiting on me.

I figure by the end of next week Win50 will be more noticeable and Epistane a week or so after that. Then the trenavar after those. Mind you being my first kick at the can, perhaps I will notice them sooner. I am going to hit up the drug store every other day for the next couple of weeks though to ensure my blood pressure is still good.

The first 4 days, the scale went up 8lbs which didn't impress me (you know how I feel about the scale moving up), but on the 5th days down 3.5lbs so. I know it is just water but coming from such a bad place weight wise - it freaks me out.

I should actually get a bf% scale, and not look at weight. But I always read they are inaccurate.

How is the sleep aid you are taking? Do you have a favorite so far?
 
wasme said:
So far, I have noticed some muscle hardness, pumps last alot longer and yesterday and today I am more vascular. Also noticed, my last two workouts I felt far more driven. Mind you, those workouts were in the morning, with no work and no household chores waiting on me.

I figure by the end of next week Win50 will be more noticeable and Epistane a week or so after that. Then the trenavar after those. Mind you being my first kick at the can, perhaps I will notice them sooner. I am going to hit up the drug store every other day for the next couple of weeks though to ensure my blood pressure is still good.

The first 4 days, the scale went up 8lbs which didn't impress me (you know how I feel about the scale moving up), but on the 5th days down 3.5lbs so. I know it is just water but coming from such a bad place weight wise - it freaks me out.

I should actually get a bf% scale, and not look at weight. But I always read they are inaccurate.

How is the sleep aid you are taking? Do you have a favorite so far?
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Yea man don't sweat the scale it's almost meaningless in physique based training and is far too volatile and variable. Bf% are not accurate, but as long as WHATEVER number you read goes DOWN--- u know that you're doing the right stuff lol.

Sleep maxx is great. I like it but it has mucuna in it so it has to be cycled and taken Into account with anything else I might be taking or taken prior to using so as not to be on the mucuna for over 8 weeks at a clip.

I like it especially tho for it's metabolic complex, check it on a 1 supplements . C o m

My favorite is reduction pm simply bc of the diuretic complex, it doesn't do a whole lot for SLEEP but the leaning is unmatched.

Hghpro is great, as well as rem pm IMO. Haven't had a chance to try lights out but am trying to find a spot for it. And BPS is releasing a sleep aid soon I believe as well.
 
chedapalooza said:
Yea man don't sweat the scale it's almost meaningless in physique based training and is far too volatile and variable. Bf% are not accurate, but as long as WHATEVER number you read goes DOWN--- u know that you're doing the right stuff lol.

Sleep maxx is great. I like it but it has mucuna in it so it has to be cycled and taken Into account with anything else I might be taking or taken prior to using so as not to be on the mucuna for over 8 weeks at a clip.

I like it especially tho for it's metabolic complex, check it on a 1 supplements . C o m

My favorite is reduction pm simply bc of the diuretic complex, it doesn't do a whole lot for SLEEP but the leaning is unmatched.

Hghpro is great, as well as rem pm IMO. Haven't had a chance to try lights out but am trying to find a spot for it. And BPS is releasing a sleep aid soon I believe as well.
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Most of the sleep aids, give me crazy dreams. I tend to have vivid and at times disturbing dreams anyway, but they get magnified with these aids. So far the one that affected my dreams the least was Powerfull.
 
wasme said:
Most of the sleep aids, give me crazy dreams. I tend to have vivid and at times disturbing dreams anyway, but they get magnified with these aids. So far the one that affected my dreams the least was Powerfull.
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Lol disturbing. Yea I had a pretty f'ed up dream the other night. But it doesn't seemto bother me too much. I've honestly Never tried powerfull.. The only usp product I haven't tried aside from the verrrry new OEP powder
 
I have heard them referred to as 'night terrors'... The freaky part is my body at times will enter a state of paralysis (about 20 minutes after initially falling asleep) where I can't move to wake myself up, then I think I am awake and I am not and it becomes a mental/physical struggle. Kinda hard to explain. But with a sleep aid everything becomes far more pronounced. You should give it a try next.. I thought it was effective. Have you tried G8?
 
wasme said:
I have heard them referred to as 'night terrors'... The freaky part is my body at times will enter a state of paralysis (about 20 minutes after initially falling asleep) where I can't move to wake myself up, then I think I am awake and I am not and it becomes a mental/physical struggle. Kinda hard to explain. But with a sleep aid everything becomes far more pronounced. You should give it a try next.. I thought it was effective. Have you tried G8?
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I know what you're talking about! That happened a handful of times in my childhood.. Some FREAKY stuff, very disturbing indeed is the beat way to put it, really messes w your head! I couldnt imagine dealing with that for my entire life! I have no tried g8, not crazy about the idea of powders in general- too much possible filler.
 
packers6211 said:
Is 6 ways done with chicks?? lol jk bro awesome update but wth is cage presses?
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Yep, six ways inside the cage. And something about pushing them against the cage and pressing up and down. You know how wasme do.

Anyway.....STRONG cage press #s !
 
Day 8: ARMS

4km run to start things off...

Crossbody Hammer Curls:
45x10
45x10
45x10
45x10

SS w/Rope Pushdowns:
100x10
100x10
100x10
100x10

Preacher Curls:
95x10
95x10
95x8
95x7

SS w/Close Grip Bench
150x10
150x10
150x10
150x10

Alternating Dumbbell Curls:
45x8
45x8
45x8

SS w/ Overhead Tri Extension:
100x10
100x10
100x10

**EzBar Curls (3 sec negatives): ran out of steam on my last set
80x10x6
80x7

**V-Bar Tricep Pushdowns:
120x12x7

Standing Calves:
160x15x5

Not a bad workout, although I felt drained by the end of it. One thing I did notice was a ridiculous pump and some great veinage in my arms (nothing like yours today Breezy sh*t man...if only...)

Dosed my Epistane at 20mg in the am, 10mg in pm prior to my workout. Did some reading today though and realized I should probably be dosing it 3 x 10 ? Any thoughts????

I gotta admit, I am excited to feel everything kick. K, time for the game... Go Bruins..
 
Damnz those are wicked preacher numbers man. You know what I don't think I've ever seen pics you need to post them bad boys up I mean if my fat arse can anyone can lol.

wasme said:
Day 8: ARMS

4km run to start things off...

Crossbody Hammer Curls:
45x10
45x10
45x10
45x10

SS w/Rope Pushdowns:
100x10
100x10
100x10
100x10

Preacher Curls:
95x10
95x10
95x8
95x7

SS w/Close Grip Bench
150x10
150x10
150x10
150x10

Alternating Dumbbell Curls:
45x8
45x8
45x8

SS w/ Overhead Tri Extension:
100x10
100x10
100x10

**EzBar Curls (3 sec negatives): ran out of steam on my last set
80x10x6
80x7

**V-Bar Tricep Pushdowns:
120x12x7

Standing Calves:
160x15x5

Not a bad workout, although I felt drained by the end of it. One thing I did notice was a ridiculous pump and some great veinage in my arms (nothing like yours today Breezy sh*t man...if only...)

Dosed my Epistane at 20mg in the am, 10mg in pm prior to my workout. Did some reading today though and realized I should probably be dosing it 3 x 10 ? Any thoughts????

I gotta admit, I am excited to feel everything kick. K, time for the game... Go Bruins..
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packers6211 said:
Damnz those are wicked preacher numbers man. You know what I don't think I've ever seen pics you need to post them bad boys up I mean if my fat arse can anyone can lol.
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LMAO.. lets see how this goes.. if all goes well, I'll throw up a before and after... good?

And thanks..you guys push me hard.
 
Added 90 minutes of LISS on the treadmill during the Bruins game tonight. Incline @ 3.5-5.5 with speed @ 3.7-4.1. Figured I can't sit still to watch, might as well walk. They did a fine job hushing up my neighbours..
 
wasme said:
Added 90 minutes of LISS on the treadmill during the Bruins game tonight. Incline @ 3.5-5.5 with speed @ 3.7-4.1. Figured I can't sit still to watch, might as well walk. They did a fine job hushing up my neighbours..
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Nice. I remember my best cardio days last year were during NBA and NHL playoffs. Games make cardio a breeze. Especially when you have a rooting interest. My Sixers and Flyers decided I shouldnt do cardio this year as they promptly tanked the season like bitches.
 
fumoney said:
Nice. I remember my best cardio days last year were during NBA and NHL playoffs. Games make cardio a breeze. Especially when you have a rooting interest. My Sixers and Flyers decided I shouldnt do cardio this year as they promptly tanked the season like bitches.
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LMAO... you are one funny dude FU.
 
wasme said:
LMAO... you are one funny dude FU.
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Haha, thought I throw in some levity until Pack brings his charged up jokes.
 
Changing my dosing a little today. Going to dose 10mg of Epistane / 100mg of Win50 about every 6-8 hours with one dose coming preworkout.

Win50 will stay at the 300mg/day dosing and Epistane I will be increasing to 40 mg on Monday.

Noticing that I am waking up before my alarm, and quite alert. No changes in skin, but muscle are harder and remain more pumped. Mind you Win50 has only been in my system 8 days and Epistane 3...so the next week or so I am hoping to start feeling some positive change.
 
I always had
 
Always wanted to try Epistane. Very interested in how your run goes.
 
...I might extend from 5 to 6 weeks, if there are no sides and all is going well.. I'm very curious to feel it kick in.

I know Win50 can be taken upto 8.. so pushing that to 7 shouldnt be a big deal.
 
wasme said:
...I might extend from 5 to 6 weeks, if there are no sides and all is going well.. I'm very curious to feel it kick in.

I know Win50 can be taken upto 8.. so pushing that to 7 shouldnt be a big deal.
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After PCT and about a month break, I am looking to run Epistane with something. Not sure what yet. Once you go dark side, you don't go back.
 
fumoney said:
After PCT and about a month break, I am looking to run Epistane with something. Not sure what yet. Once you go dark side, you don't go back.
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I hear ya... when I made my order, I also got Haladrol - for the next one! lol
 
Looking to do some kind of combination of osta rx, Epistane, halodrol and M-sten. Probably pick 2 of the 4 for another recomp run.
 
wasme said:
I keep reading that Epistane @ 30mg and Halodrol @ 75mg is a very effective stack.
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Interesting. Will need to read up on that.
 
wasme said:
I'd be down for running side by side with you, so we can compare notes...
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Cool, that should be very productive. Can't wait !
 
Day 9: Legs

Started off with 5km run...

Leg Extensions: This might have been too heavy as my knee started bugging me, but pressed on.
140x10
140x10
140x10

Squats:
210x8
230x8
260x8
270x8

Hack Squats (3 second pause):
210x8
220x8
230x6 - ran out of gas on this one

**Leg Extensions:
90x12x7
+9 partials

Stiff Leg Deadlift: Felt a bit dizzy/nautious on my last set here got to 7 and had to stop.
200x8
200x8
210x8
210x7

**Lying Leg Curls:
55x12x7
+ 6 partials

Trashed legs! But didnt stop there. Put on Sportsdesk and hopped on the treadmill for 30 minutes. 4mph pace, 2.5/5/7 on the incline (1 minute intervals - pyramid style). Trying to strip some fat.

My only complaint so far is I feel like even though I am eating clean (high protein, low carb, moderate fat) I feel 'heavy'... and it is putting me in a frustrated state of mind.

Off to watch some playoff hockey..
 
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