Lpfleiderer's Versa-1 Log

lpfleiderer said:
04/26/13
Day 18

Preworkout stack:
1 Versa-1
1scoop Alphamine
1scoop Purple Wrath
1 scoop Cordygen
2g COP
2g Taurine

(My girlfriend was rushing me so I forgot to add Hemavol and AlCAR :( )

Got decent energy, could definitely feel the Alphamine, heart rate was jacked through the roof. Focus was good, expected alittle more, should have taken my ALCAR with it. I could see how Alphamine would be awesome for cardio, gunna save the other scoop for a strictly cardio day. The Thermogenic effect was very prominent. But for now I will be sticking to my regular preworkout for strength training days.

Did DC training today, followed by HIIT. I gave it everything I had. Lets just say I'm stuck in my chair. Exhausted.

Stoked for my birthday tomorrow!
I'll get back to you guys on Monday.
Cheers!
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DC training and HIIT!! Yea buddy, I'd be in my chair as well. Awesome workout and enjoy your birthday bud!
 
Happy birthday lp!!! I agree with Breezy. That sounds like an excellent combination.
 
4/27/2013 & 4/27/2013

Days 19-20

Had a blast on my birthday, my girlfriend surprised me and all my friends were there, A DJ, and all the goods, so that was great. Hung out on a rooftop pool in downtown Orlando for 8 hours then went downtown at night, so lets just say I had a few too many beers. lol Rested Sunday. Definitely a cheat weekend. Ready to get back to the gym in the morning!

Thanks for the birthday wishes
 
04/29/13

Day 21

Took my Versa-1, Orange Triad, and 100mg Ubiquinol with breakfast.

Preworkout:

1 scoop Hypershock
1 1/2 scoop PW
1/2 scoop Cordygen
2g COP
2g Taurine

Despite my 2 days of nutritional abuse, my workout today kicked ass! I took yesterday off Versa-1, and when I took it today, I could feel it strong again!

I did a Chest and Tri's workout today. I felt super strong! For chest press I repped 90lb dumbbells 9 times!(usually only 6-8 if I even touch the 90's at all) I also bumped it up 2 notches above my normal on the triceps press machine and repped it strong even after pushing myself on bench! I would usually be gassed by the end of my workout but I repped out 50 pushups with ease.(usually burn out only 25 after a hard chest workout) Feeling great and loving my Versa-1!

Other notes:
Got my Prime today! I'm really anxious to start logging this! If I'm getting gains off Versa-1 alone, I could only imagine stacking it with Prime and Test Powder! Do you guys think I should extend my 4 week Versa-1 cycle to an 8-week cycle and add in Prime and Test Powder for the last 4 weeks?
Or should I take 2 weeks off Versa-1 and then do a 6-8 week cycle of Prime with Versa-1 and Test powder weeks 3-7?!
Any recommendations would be great!
 
4/30/13

Day 22
Took my versa in the morning
Hit the gym after work.

Pre workout:
1 scoop Alphamine
1 scoop Cordygen
1 scoop PW
1.5g COP

Today I did HIIT training. I started with a 10 min warmup then right into HIIT. I did fairly well, but when I was finished I crashed super hard. HIIT takes it out of me sometimes.
 
Glad to hear that you enjoyed your birthday. :)
lpfleiderer said:
04/29/13Day 21Took my Versa-1, Orange Triad, and 100mg Ubiquinol with breakfast.Preworkout:1 scoop Hypershock1 1/2 scoop PW 1/2 scoop Cordygen2g COP2g TaurineDespite my 2 days of nutritional abuse, my workout today kicked ass! I took yesterday off Versa-1, and when I took it today, I could feel it strong again!I did a Chest and Tri's workout today. I felt super strong! For chest press I repped 90lb dumbbells 9 times!(usually only 6-8 if I even touch the 90's at all) I also bumped it up 2 notches above my normal on the triceps press machine and repped it strong even after pushing myself on bench! I would usually be gassed by the end of my workout but I repped out 50 pushups with ease.(usually burn out only 25 after a hard chest workout) Feeling great and loving my Versa-1!Other notes:Got my Prime today! I'm really anxious to start logging this! If I'm getting gains off Versa-1 alone, I could only imagine stacking it with Prime and Test Powder! Do you guys think I should extend my 4 week Versa-1 cycle to an 8-week cycle and add in Prime and Test Powder for the last 4 weeks? Or should I take 2 weeks off Versa-1 and then do a 6-8 week cycle of Prime with Versa-1 and Test powder weeks 3-7?!Any recommendations would be great!
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The second bottle is usually the best with VERSA-1™, so I vote for an extended cycle. As for the other supplements, adding TEST Powder® in for the last 4 weeks sounds like a great idea. PRIME® could be added as well, but I would continue use past 4 weeks, as that is another product that really shines with time. Remember with VERSA-1™ regardless of cycle length you will need to take 4 weeks off in between runs.
 
I like classic's suggestion; VERSA-1 for 8 weeks would be ideal. I actually just started my second bottle (of my current run) and am really looking forward to the next 4 weeks with all of the effects already going strong. Test Powder and PRIME would be excellent additions for weeks 4-8. If you end up getting more PRIME, you could extend its use to a total of 8-12 weeks. You would also have the option of adding VERSA-1 and/or Test Powder back in after taking their recommended 4 week breaks.


Just remember the following recommendations when planning your run:

VERSA-1: up to 8 weeks on/4 weeks off
Test Powder: 4 weeks on/4 weeks off
PRIME: up to 12 weeks on/4 weeks off

Look forward to hearing what you decide on man!


lpfleiderer said:
4/30/13

Day 22
Took my versa in the morning
Hit the gym after work.

Pre workout:
1 scoop Alphamine
1 scoop Cordygen
1 scoop PW
1.5g COP

Today I did HIIT training. I started with a 10 min warmup then right into HIIT. I did fairly well, but when I was finished I crashed super hard. HIIT takes it out of me sometimes.
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Nice work with the HIIT bud; it can take a lot out of me as well. I wanted to take a nap the other day, which doesn't happen very often haha.
 
breezy11 said:
I like classic's suggestion; VERSA-1 for 8 weeks would be ideal. I actually just started my second bottle (of my current run) and am really looking forward to the next 4 weeks with all of the effects already going strong. Test Powder and PRIME would be excellent additions for weeks 4-8. If you end up getting more PRIME, you could extend its use to a total of 8-12 weeks. You would also have the option of adding VERSA-1 and/or Test Powder back in after taking their recommended 4 week breaks. Just remember the following recommendations when planning your run:VERSA-1: up to 8 weeks on/4 weeks offTest Powder: 4 weeks on/4 weeks offPRIME: up to 12 weeks on/4 weeks offLook forward to hearing what you decide on man!Nice work with the HIIT bud; it can take a lot out of me as well. I wanted to take a nap the other day, which doesn't happen very often haha.
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Not sure why it wouldn't let me post in the correct format, the correctly formatted response is below.
 
Thanks for the info Classic34 and breezy 11! Depending on my how tasking my real estate studying is, I plan to extend this run of VERSA-1 and add in a few things to turn it into a 12 week run. (I would keep this 4 week solo log and rate the product, then I would start a new thread with the others added in.) If my studying gets too intense, I might have to split it up.
2 options:


Option 1
12 week Log: Continuing this run of VERSA-1 and make it 8 weeks.
Versa-1: Weeks 1-8
Prime: Weeks 5-12 (8 weeks)
Test Powder: Weeks 5-8 (4weeks)
(not sure if I should add in Erase anywhere, I have a spare bottle lying around.)


Option 2, If studying gets too busy
discontinue Versa-1 after this 4 week log, take 4 weeks off.
Start back up with new log:
Prime: weeks 1-8 (8 weeks)
Versa-1 & Test Powder: weeks 3-6(4 weeks)
(maybe add in Erase if necessary)
 
05/01/13
Day 23

Versa with breakfast

Pre workout:
1 scoop of Ignite-2
2g COP
1 scoop PW
2g taurine

Did back and biceps today.
Workout was ok.
Pumps in my biceps were insane. My back felt weak though, and now that I think about it, my biceps felt weak too. I think I needed to rest after yesterdays HIIT. I woke up this morning feeling really tired. I'm taking tomorrow off to rest, work, and study. Friday, my dad and I are going Mt. Biking again. I will probably save the Versa-1 to take pre-ride, that method has worked best for me as far as noticeable effects. Hopefully it will kick in as hard as the first time that I took it while riding. I'll get back to you guys on friday.
 
breezy11 said:
I like classic's suggestion; VERSA-1 for 8 weeks would be ideal. I actually just started my second bottle (of my current run) and am really looking forward to the next 4 weeks with all of the effects already going strong.
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Hey Breezy,
Not to hijack lpfleiderer thread, but could you briefly explain the effects. I just finished my 1st bottle of Versa today, and I am not sure I am seeing any effects. The first few days, I somewhat noticed a better mind/muscle connection, but I may have been forcing it.

Could my weight 300lbs, be an issue with 1 pill dosing? I am hesitant to start the 2nd bottle.
 
lpfleiderer said:
Thanks for the info Classic34 and breezy 11! Depending on my how tasking my real estate studying is, I plan to extend this run of VERSA-1 and add in a few things to turn it into a 12 week run. (I would keep this 4 week solo log and rate the product, then I would start a new thread with the others added in.) If my studying gets too intense, I might have to split it up.
2 options:

Option 1
12 week Log: Continuing this run of VERSA-1 and make it 8 weeks.
Versa-1: Weeks 1-8
Prime: Weeks 5-12 (8 weeks)
Test Powder: Weeks 5-8 (4weeks)
(not sure if I should add in Erase anywhere, I have a spare bottle lying around.)

Option 2, If studying gets too busy
discontinue Versa-1 after this 4 week log, take 4 weeks off.
Start back up with new log:
Prime: weeks 1-8 (8 weeks)
Versa-1 & Test Powder: weeks 3-6(4 weeks)
(maybe add in Erase if necessary)
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Both options look good to me. You could add Erase for more of a drying effect, but Test Powder already includes an AI that should help keep estrogen in check. If controlling a potential estrogen increase from DAA is your main concern, I'd hold off on Erase. Either way should be solid; it really depends on what you're looking for.


cubsfan815 said:
Hey Breezy,
Not to hijack lpfleiderer thread, but could you briefly explain the effects. I just finished my 1st bottle of Versa today, and I am not sure I am seeing any effects. The first few days, I somewhat noticed a better mind/muscle connection, but I may have been forcing it.

Could my weight 300lbs, be an issue with 1 pill dosing? I am hesitant to start the 2nd bottle.
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Sorry to hear man. It's always disappointing when you feel a product might not be offering what was expected. VERSA-1 users have reported increased focus/mind-muscle connection, strength, strength endurance, recovery, hunger, vascularity, and favorable changes to body composition. That being said, products won't always work the same for everyone.

I've personally experienced all of the previously mentioned, with the exception of a consistent appetite increase (I don't get this with AnaBeta either, so maybe it's just me lol). The improved gym performance is what I enjoy most. I've added strength during my runs, including those where it wasn't my main focus. Strength endurance is another area that has seen improvement; I'm able to train harder and longer, and always want to be in the gym. My daily energy and sense of well-being have increased as well. It really seems to help me, both in and out of the gym.

I don't believe weight should be a factor. I know a few bigger guys that have done well with 1 cap daily. Considering that you already have a second bottle, I'd probably continue with it. VERSA-1 gets better heading into the second bottle for some, and you could still begin noticing more of the effects.
 
05/05/13
Day 24-Day 27
I went Mt. Biking 3 days ago on friday for about 2 1/2 hours. Took Versa-1 pre-ride with alittle Hypershock, Cordygen, and PW. I feel that Versa works synergistically taken with your normal pre-workout. I felt great on my ride. During my off days and when I take Versa-1 in the morning, I don't feel the effects as strong, sometimes not at all. I know it is working even though I cant always feel it. All day vascularity seems to have improved. Strength has increased. Took Saturday and Today off. Looking forward to tomorrows workout. Cheers (and thanks for the info breezy!)
 
05/06/13
Day 28

Doing a Bike Ride and Circuit routine that I do for endurance/ cardio. Its 5 miles to a lake near my house where there are different stations set up around the lake; pull up bars, Dip bars, Box, "pushup bars", monkey bars(which I rep bodyweight rows), then 5 miles back home. This usually takes about 1- 1 1/2 hours depending on the heat(it gets hot as hell here in FL), and my pace. I usually do this circuit 2 times a week when I'm cutting and can drop body fat like crazy.

Pre workout:
1 pill Versa-1
2 scoops Purple Wrath
1 scoop Cordygen
2g COP
1 scoop Condense
1/2 scoop Ignite 2

Workout was good. Didn't feel very strong despite my 2 days off and 9 hours of sleep lastnight. Focus was very good though! Still got some good cardio in. looking forward to chest and triceps tomorrow.

I got a question for any of you that are knowledgeable on DAA. I have Ignite 2 by Finaflex that I bought(becuase I loved the sample I tried), not taking into perspective that it has DAA in it. I know its a proprietary blend, which I hate, so I'm not sure how much DAA is actually in it (kind of an impulse buy).I planned on taking it with my Test Powder which has a good dose of DAA in it(just over 3 grams). My question is, can I stack both products?! Is it better to wait and take it on a separate run and not together? Maybe the FinaFlex reps could chime in on the amount of DAA in Ignite-2 so we can have a better perspective.
I have researched this topic on the forum for the last hour with no luck on higher doses, except posts that were dated around the time when DAA started to become very popular and there wasn't any time tested experience with dosing. Looking for no biased opinions.
Any Info will be appreciated.
thanks,- Luke
 
That bike ride/circuit sounds awesome man. I wish there was something similar around here.


I'm not familiar with the d-Aspartic Acid Diethyl Ester HCL content of Ignite2. Perhaps Montego1 or another Finaflex rep could provide you with a little more info.
 
breezy11 said:
That bike ride/circuit sounds awesome man. I wish there was something similar around here.I'm not familiar with the d-Aspartic Acid Diethyl Ester HCL content of Ignite2. Perhaps Montego1 or another Finaflex rep could provide you with a little more info.
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Thanks, I was unsure about the DAA diethyl Ester HCL as well. I'll see what montego1 can tell me about it.
 
05/07/13
Day 29

For some reason this was the last pill left in the bottle. It's supposed to be 30 but I must have lost one somewhere along the way.

Today I did 5 miles on the bike, followed by a back workout/circuit which included: Muscle ups, wide-grip pull ups, close-grip pull ups, rows, and row-grip pull ups. After a 5 min break, I rode 5 more miles. My legs were sore from my ride the other day, but my back felt strong.

Did not really feel the Versa-1 today, probably because I took it in the morning, it seems to work better for me when taken pre workout.

I will post my final review later this week!
 
lpfleiderer said:
05/07/13
Day 29

For some reason this was the last pill left in the bottle. It's supposed to be 30 but I must have lost one somewhere along the way.

Today I did 5 miles on the bike, followed by a back workout/circuit which included: Muscle ups, wide-grip pull ups, close-grip pull ups, rows, and row-grip pull ups. After a 5 min break, I rode 5 more miles. My legs were sore from my ride the other day, but my back felt strong.

Did not really feel the Versa-1 today, probably because I took it in the morning, it seems to work better for me when taken pre workout.

I will post my final review later this week!
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That's too bad. I end up losing a cap/pill once in a while as well (found one under my couch last week :)).

Solid ride and workout as usual man. You've really got me wanting to bring my mtn. bike out of hibernation.

Yeah, VERSA-1 is best taken 30-60 minutes pre-workout on training days; however, the effects may be noticed if taken earlier as well.

Look forward to your review bud!
 
breezy11 said:
Sorry to hear man. It's always disappointing when you feel a product might not be offering what was expected. VERSA-1 users have reported increased focus/mind-muscle connection, strength, strength endurance, recovery, hunger, vascularity, and favorable changes to body composition. That being said, products won't always work the same for everyone.

I've personally experienced all of the previously mentioned, with the exception of a consistent appetite increase (I don't get this with AnaBeta either, so maybe it's just me lol). The improved gym performance is what I enjoy most. I've added strength during my runs, including those where it wasn't my main focus. Strength endurance is another area that has seen improvement; I'm able to train harder and longer, and always want to be in the gym. My daily energy and sense of well-being have increased as well. It really seems to help me, both in and out of the gym.

I don't believe weight should be a factor. I know a few bigger guys that have done well with 1 cap daily. Considering that you already have a second bottle, I'd probably continue with it. VERSA-1 gets better heading into the second bottle for some, and you could still begin noticing more of the effects.
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Hey thanks for response Breezy. I took a step back and re-evaluated what was going on. I think I jumped into Versa-1 on the IC release without really reading about it. Now that I think about it, my Endurance has been better, my mood has been better, and now in week 5 of Versa-1, and week 3 of ABE my strength is sky rocketing. I have been doing lower weight 10x10 with 30 sec rest for fat loss. Last few days I have been doing 10x10 with a lot heavier weight than before, and I'm not gassing out. Some days I find it hard to even hit failure!

I am seeing great results (now that I took my blinders off) to my Versa-1/ABE combo.
 
lpfleiderer said:
05/07/13
Day 29

For some reason this was the last pill left in the bottle. It's supposed to be 30 but I must have lost one somewhere along the way.

Today I did 5 miles on the bike, followed by a back workout/circuit which included: Muscle ups, wide-grip pull ups, close-grip pull ups, rows, and row-grip pull ups. After a 5 min break, I rode 5 more miles. My legs were sore from my ride the other day, but my back felt strong.

Did not really feel the Versa-1 today, probably because I took it in the morning, it seems to work better for me when taken pre workout.

I will post my final review later this week!
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I look forward to your final review!
 
cubsfan815 said:
Hey thanks for response Breezy. I took a step back and re-evaluated what was going on. I think I jumped into Versa-1 on the IC release without really reading about it. Now that I think about it, my Endurance has been better, my mood has been better, and now in week 5 of Versa-1, and week 3 of ABE my strength is sky rocketing. I have been doing lower weight 10x10 with 30 sec rest for fat loss. Last few days I have been doing 10x10 with a lot heavier weight than before, and I'm not gassing out. Some days I find it hard to even hit failure!

I am seeing great results (now that I took my blinders off) to my Versa-1/ABE combo.
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No problem man . That is awesome news! I often look back on my first run with a product and realize that it provided more than I had originally thought. I'm glad you've started to see the benefits with another 3+ weeks left!

VERSA-1 with ABE should be great. I'm actually about a week in with the combo as well.

I appreciate the update bud and look forward to hearing how the rest of your run goes!
 
Can't wait to read your final review LP!

breezy11 said:
That's too bad. I end up losing a cap/pill once in a while as well (found one under my couch last week :)).


Solid ride and workout as usual man. You've really got me wanting to bring my mtn. bike out of hibernation.


Yeah, VERSA-1 is best taken 30-60 minutes pre-workout on training days; however, the effects may be noticed if taken earlier as well.


Look forward to your review bud!
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Mine is definitely coming out of hibernation soon. Outdoor biking > indoor cardio ANY day!
 
My Versa-1 Final Review

I am very unbiased about supplements and will tell you my exact opinion, regardless of what others on this forum might think.

I would like to point out some of the effects I have noticed from 4 weeks of Versa-1, as well as other things I have noticed.
  • Increased Vascularity
  • Focus was increased
  • Slight strength increase
  • Most of the effects were very subtle, easy to overlook them until you stop taking it.
  • Most effective when taken pre-workout.
  • Could not feel much when taken with a meal on my off days.
  • Had a synergistic effect with my pre-workouts.
  • After discontinuing for a few days, I noticed a definite energy decrease.
  • DOMS occurred during the first 2 weeks but diminished after.(I havent felt DOMS since I first started working out, so this was interesting.)
  • Notable effects during even the first dose.
Im sure I forgot to post a few notable things about it and will edit and add whatever I have forgotten later. I have been super busy lately so sorry for the delayed review.
I loved all the effects of Versa-1 except for the DOMS, that was kind of annoying.

All that being said, Versa-1 in an interesting product for me to categorize. It seems to enhance most that I take along with it, Preworkouts become stronger, only have to take 1/2-3/4 my normal dose. I would not recommend this product BYITSELF to anyone expecting a miracle supplement. It has good effects but they are very subtle, others point them out before you even notice. (my girlfriend pointed out my increased vascularity.) For those of you wanting a noticeable effect, I would encourage stacking Versa-1 with a few other products to help aid your goal. Definitely a perfect addition to any stack. I am looking forward to my upcoming log with Versa-1, TestPowder and Prime!

I would recommend this product to a friend.
 
Great job with both the log and review lpfleiderer! Your honest feedback is much appreciated.

I'm looking forward to your next run man. Drop a link in here so we can be sure to follow.
 
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