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Best PH for recomp/cutting

atl3128

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I am thinking of cutting/recomp on my next cycle in 5 weeks and was wondering what was the best ph to take. I am currently on Test Cyp 125mg every 3 days TRT and am looking for something to add that wont make me lethargic or mess with my libido too much. I was thinking of upping my cardio a little while keeping my diet clean with calories a little above maintenance. I am open to any suggestions thanks.
 
SPS said:
Did you go a long time without posting? I haven't seen you post in awhile.

Op I would think your trt would prevent any libidio issues.
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I had to get control of my substance abuse, I had a pretty rough time bro. I'm so much better now.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
What's your stats bro?
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I am 35 yrs old 5'9" 204 lbs and around 16-18%BF. I shattered my left leg and dislocated my shoulder in a atv accident 2 years ago which put any and all lifting to a halt so I started back in the gym in Jan so I am trying to my the strength in back and lean out a bit.
 
Damn, well props for getting your **** under control. I just had to ask I always wonder what happens when people who have been here awhile/regulars disappear.
 
SPS said:
Did you go a long time without posting? I haven't seen you post in awhile.

Op I would think your trt would prevent any libidio issues.
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Yeah you are probably right on that but I just want to make sure because my Dr will not let me go any higher on the test. I have some msten rx and some mechabol left should I just go with one of those or?????
 
atl3128 said:
Yeah you are probably right on that but I just want to make sure because my Dr will not let me go any higher on the test. I have some msten rx and some mechabol left should I just go with one of those or?????
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yeah both would be good choices, i think mechabol would be more mild
 
I recently did 100mg mecha for 6 weeks with lower dose trt for a nice recomp . Right now im doing 300mg deca for 12 weeks with a 5-6 week SD run on dialed in trt. Other future ideas are SD solo with trt and epi with trt
 
SPS said:
Damn, well props for getting your **** under control. I just had to ask I always wonder what happens when people who have been here awhile/regulars disappear.
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Thanks bro. I didn't know if I was gonna make it to see 2013 but thank God I did.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
I 2nd this. I'm not versed in mechabol knowledge though, how would u recommend the OP run it?
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OP if you are worried about libidio or lethargy I would start at 50/50/75/75/75/75 for 6 weeks. Many people run it between 75 and 100 so if you are feeling ambitious and good you can always bump it up.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Thanks bro. I didn't know if I was gonna make it to see 2013 but thank God I did.
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Yikes bro, I am glad you pulled thru and are back at it, my wife's little brother is 22 and he has been struggling with it since he was 15 so I know it can get ugly and seem rather hopeless at times.
 
atl3128 said:
I am 35 yrs old 5'9" 204 lbs and around 16-18%BF. I shattered my left leg and dislocated my shoulder in a atv accident 2 years ago which put any and all lifting to a halt so I started back in the gym in Jan so I am trying to my the strength in back and lean out a bit.
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I'd cut to 13-15% naturally before trying to recomp with a PH/DS
 
AwhYeah said:
I'd cut to 13-15% naturally before trying to recomp with a PH/DS
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yeah this is very very true. Works 10x better at just a couple % points less. I would not run mecha below 100mg ED. and its pretty cheap if anybody was thinking of trying that excuse :D UNLESS you did 75/100 or 75/100/125 split between the 6 weeks. Don't waste your money running it at 50 or 75 for extended periods of time.
 
AnabolicHolic said:
yeah this is very very true. Works 10x better at just a couple % points less. I would not run mecha below 100mg ED. and its pretty cheap if anybody was thinking of trying that excuse :D UNLESS you did 75/100 or 75/100/125 split between the 6 weeks. Don't waste your money running it at 50 or 75 for extended periods of time.
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How were your gains at that dose?
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
How were your gains at that dose?
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I was (true) recomping, as in couple days defecit, couple days maintenance and couple days slightly over....I stayed EXACTLY the same weight and people were commenting that I lost a ton of fat...I told them I stayed exactly the same weight the past 2 months and they were like whatever, you leaned out big time regardless. So it worked like a charm for the purpose I used it for. I had just gained a net of 12 lbs on a previous cycle, so maintaining and recomping my ass off was my goal with mecha and the derma.
 
AnabolicHolic said:
I was (true) recomping, as in couple days defecit, couple days maintenance and couple days slightly over....I stayed EXACTLY the same weight and people were commenting that I lost a ton of fat...I told them I stayed exactly the same weight the past 2 months and they were like whatever, you leaned out big time regardless. So it worked like a charm for the purpose I used it for. I had just gained a net of 12 lbs on a previous cycle, so maintaining and recomping my ass off was my goal with mecha and the derma.
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Pretty successful then, that's good sh*t bro.
 
i'll be using the new lean-cut from androfactory, im hoping it will be the "new" androlean. i'll be logging with stano if anyone wants to follow.
 
hvactech said:
i'll be using the new lean-cut from androfactory, im hoping it will be the "new" androlean. i'll be logging with stano if anyone wants to follow.
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Yeah prototype 7/11 or og lean were killer cut or recomp aids. I used 7/11 the 6 weeks post 6 week mecha run to continue my recomp actually. Non methyl extension.
 
So should I stick with the mecha for recomping or go with EPI or maybe Trenazone or one of the oral Tren PH's such as X-Trenavar???? I want something that will help accelerate the fat loss.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
I 2nd this. I'm not versed in mechabol knowledge though, how would u recommend the OP run it?
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I run it @ 100 for 6 weeks. A nice test base like your cyp will get you dry and diced. Epi or low dose superdrol work too.

Good to see there's. dr back in the house.
 
atl3128 said:
So should I stick with the mecha for recomping or go with EPI or maybe Trenazone or one of the oral Tren PH's such as X-Trenavar???? I want something that will help accelerate the fat loss.
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Run the Trenavar. It is absolutely awesome for fat loss, which starts becoming extremely noticeable in the 3rd or 4th week. I'd run it at 75-90mg for 6 weeks...you should have fantastic results if your diet and training are in check. Can't recommend t-var enough!
 
Ok between the EPI and the trenavar which one is least likely to cause sides such as lethargy or decrease in libido? And which one produces the most gains in size strength??
 
atl3128 said:
Ok between the EPI and the trenavar which one is least likely to cause sides such as lethargy or decrease in libido? And which one produces the most gains in size strength??
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Epi had me humping holes in the wall bro lol, along with retarded strength. I haven't ran trenavar though but with a hefty enough dose you'd b seeing crazy strength gains too, since it does convert to trenbolone.
 
TruthWalker said:
Run the Trenavar. It is absolutely awesome for fat loss, which starts becoming extremely noticeable in the 3rd or 4th week. I'd run it at 75-90mg for 6 weeks...you should have fantastic results if your diet and training are in check. Can't recommend t-var enough!
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Did the trenavar cause any lethargy or decrease in libido or other negative sides? How were the strength gains?
 
atl3128 said:
Did the trenavar cause any lethargy or decrease in libido or other negative sides? How were the strength gains?
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Did you read the drs post? Real legit tren can go either way. On low dose hrt it turns most men into porn stars. On high test or no test may get an attack from mr limpy. On real tren strength is god like. How a pro hormone will fair I cannot say. If you dose high enough and get a good concentration of tren the results could be very good.
 
superbeast668 said:
Did you read the drs post? Real legit tren can go either way. On low dose hrt it turns most men into porn stars. On high test or no test may get an attack from mr limpy. On real tren strength is god like. How a pro hormone will fair I cannot say. If you dose high enough and get a good concentration of tren the results could be very good.
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I didnt see a post by him that addressed the effects of Tren on libido he did address EPI and its effects on libido?? I know that trenbolone does give great strength gains but was worried about the possible negative effects on libido and lethargy I was trying to weigh the pros/cons of each product.

Is this the post you are talking about?
Epi had me humping holes in the wall bro lol, along with retarded strength. I haven't ran trenavar though but with a hefty enough dose you'd b seeing crazy strength gains too, since it does convert to trenbolone.
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atl3128 said:
I didnt see a post by him that addressed the effects of Tren on libido he did address EPI and its effects on libido?? I know that trenbolone does give great strength gains but was worried about the possible negative effects on libido and lethargy I was trying to weigh the pros/cons of each product.

Is this the post you are talking about?
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Tren will tank your libido if u run it high without the presence of high test.
 
every time I go to type "here" on my droid, and hit "hete" by accident? (they are right next to each other btw).....it autofills "heterosexual" LMFAO. ridiculous. i've always caught it though before sending....
 
AnabolicHolic said:
every time I go to type "here" on my droid, and hit "hete" by accident? (they are right next to each other btw).....it autofills "heterosexual" LMFAO. ridiculous. i've always caught it though before sending....
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I have sent out some pretty funny stuff by accident because of auto correct on this phone
 
atl3128 said:
I have sent out some pretty funny stuff by accident because of auto correct on this phone
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tonight I typed (wanted to type) "of"....apparently I hit "og"?????? it typed out "ogre" LMFAO. I totally missed it and sent it too, worst part.
 
Just wanted to say a year and a half ago I was in a bike accident and broke my wrists and one elbow. I went from benching 315 for reps to not being able to clean myself.

I know how it feels. You just have to take your time and when your ready get back on the horse. Stay positive. You will progress
 
AnabolicHolic said:
tonight I typed (wanted to type) "of"....apparently I hit "og"?????? it typed out "ogre" LMFAO. I totally missed it and sent it too, worst part.
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I told someone I was going to incestigate a matter instead of investigating it the other day. Did not catch it either lol
 
ponysteak said:
I told someone I was going to incestigate a matter instead of investigating it the other day. Did not catch it either lol
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that type of error could get you fired, or maybe even arrested, in a professional work environment :D
 
atl3128 said:
Did the trenavar cause any lethargy or decrease in libido or other negative sides? How were the strength gains?
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I dunno, I was also taking stano at the time so no loss of energy, and on caber for prolactin control so there was absolutely no loss in libido. If anything, it increased. But this was due to caber I am sure.
 
TruthWalker said:
I dunno, I was also taking stano at the time so no loss of energy, and on caber for prolactin control so there was absolutely no loss in libido. If anything, it increased. But this was due to caber I am sure.
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At what dose were you taking the caber?
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Tren will tank your libido if u run it high without the presence of high test.
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Most have better libido with hrt doses of test or just hcg coupled with tren at any dose. Talk to dangerdave or Detroit hammer. They both have logs on it and will confirm what I've said.

Most caber you'll come by in the RC Chem department will be worthless as it is very unstable in a solution. Look to prami to negate prolactin sides if you have to go the rc route. If you can get prescription caber it's a much better route to follow as the sides aren't as bad.
 
superbeast668 said:
Most have better libido with hrt doses of test or just hcg coupled with tren at any dose. Talk to dangerdave or Detroit hammer. They both have logs on it and will confirm what I've said.

Most caber you'll come by in the RC Chem department will be worthless as it is very unstable in a solution. Look to prami to negate prolactin sides if you have to go the rc route. If you can get prescription caber it's a much better route to follow as the sides aren't as bad.
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Or just don't get the Caber that's in a solution. Get tabs or capsule form
 
superbeast668 said:
Good luck finding legit caps or tabs from a research company. The only one I can think of is bunk it's actually PDE-5
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I haven't tested the stuff I use but it gives the feeling of dopamine rush(lack of better way to explain it) feels really good and libido doesn't tank so...
 
superbeast668 said:
Good luck finding legit caps or tabs from a research company. The only one I can think of is bunk it's actually PDE-5
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I had capsules of caber, used .5mg EoD. They were legit - lactation completely stopped, and the sexual side effects were exactly (actually even better) than expected. Pretty sure PDE-5 can't give you back to back orgasms...and I am being literal. Got off twice within about ~10 seconds, on multiple occasions.
 
superbeast668 said:
Most have better libido with hrt doses of test or just hcg coupled with tren at any dose. Talk to dangerdave or Detroit hammer. They both have logs on it and will confirm what I've said.

Most caber you'll come by in the RC Chem department will be worthless as it is very unstable in a solution. Look to prami to negate prolactin sides if you have to go the rc route. If you can get prescription caber it's a much better route to follow as the sides aren't as bad.
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Yeah I remember them stating that, especially since tren binds to the AR much more aggressively than test so its best to run the test low.
 
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