I Hate Cardio! Please Help Me Formutech Endurance.

cswalczakny said:
It will definitely still be beneficial at your weight, but just like with anything else fat-loss related, the results will be far more apparent the leaner you are to begin with.

not bothering me at all! I'm here to answer your questions!
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Thanks Man. I just didn't want to sound like some noob.


Brucega said:
NP will be adding Youth on their next order!! thanks
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Awesome, I plan on running the combo for 8 weeks. So I can grab the youth next order.
 
cubsfan815 said:
Thanks Man. I just didn't want to sound like some noob.




Awesome, I plan on running the combo for 8 weeks. So I can grab the youth next order.
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Much appreciated. Youth and Natural efx can both be ran yearly. I need them to get the multi vitamins up. Thanks
 
cubsfan815 said:
Yeah it seems like a good combo. I'm placing order today for the Natural EFX and Lean EFX Refined. I wanted to add Youth, but looks like Nutra doesn't have it.

My buddy I work with ordered Natural EFX, Lean EFX Refined, and Flexible so we will both be running it around the same time.
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Very nice, order, you will not be disapointed. The combo works well
 
cubsfan815 said:
Thanks. I have seen a few Formutech reps say they like Youth with Natural EFX for the added 7Keto. How many mg's of 7Keto do most people take a day if running the 2 products together?
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I ran it at 150mg of 7 keto a day, this includes both:
2 caps Natural EFX am and PM
2 caps Youth am and PM

I stagaered the doses I would take Natural EFX with Breakfast, then my first snack I'd do youth, then Natural EFX with Lunch, then Pre workout meal Id take 2 more Youth.
 
Brucega said:
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Much appreciated. Youth and Natural efx can both be ran yearly. I need them to get the multi vitamins up. Thanks
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AND this is what I like about it.
 
02sixxer said:
I ran it at 150mg of 7 keto a day, this includes both:
2 caps Natural EFX am and PM
2 caps Youth am and PM

I stagaered the doses I would take Natural EFX with Breakfast, then my first snack I'd do youth, then Natural EFX with Lunch, then Pre workout meal Id take 2 more Youth.
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Thanks for response, I will be running it similar. I figured first 2 weeks while I finish off my current supps it would be:

1 caps Lean EFX Refined am and pre lunch
2 caps Natural EFX am and pm
2 caps 7keto staggered am and pre
3 caps Vanillean before meals
1 cap Versa1 pre

Once Vanillean runs out, I will bump Natural EFX to 2 caps 3x a day. At that point I may drop 7keto to 1 cap 2x a day

I'm not sure if I should wait to start Lean EFX Refined, until Vanillean is done? They both contain Evodiamine, Vanillean yielding 75mg a day. I have some Alphamine that can hold me over if so.

You and Cswalczakny have been great help
 
cubsfan815 said:
Thanks for response, I will be running it similar. I figured first 2 weeks while I finish off my current supps it would be:

1 caps Lean EFX Refined am and pre lunch
2 caps Natural EFX am and pm
2 caps 7keto staggered am and pre
3 caps Vanillean before meals
1 cap Versa1 pre

Once Vanillean runs out, I will bump Natural EFX to 2 caps 3x a day. At that point I may drop 7keto to 1 cap 2x a day

I'm not sure if I should wait to start Lean EFX Refined, until Vanillean is done? They both contain Evodiamine, Vanillean yielding 75mg a day. I have some Alphamine that can hold me over if so.

You and Cswalczakny have been great help
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that stack looks awesome. Vanillean is legit too. I don't see a problem stacking it with Lean
 
Yesterday. Still not 100% so went a little lighter than normal. Stayed with Volume 100 to try to keep heart rate up. Rest times will say 60 secs, but I think I averaged more around 30 secs

Took half scoop Endurance 30 mins pre
1 scoop Endurance intra

Dumbbell Shoulder Press
10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (35lbs)

Machine Shoulder Press (used machine, since I have been weak due to illness)
3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (65lbs)

Side Lateral Raise
3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (25lbs)

Seated Bent-Over Rear Delt Raise
3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (25lbs)

Dumbbell Shrug
10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (60lbs)

Dumbbell Shrug
3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (80lbs)

Dumbbell Alternating Bicep Curl
10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (30lbs)

Dumbbell Alternating Bicep Curl
3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (45lbs)

Incline Dumbbell Curl
3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (40lbs)

Notes: Probably could have gone heavier. Felt pretty good, minus the congestion
Not sore at all today, even after taking basically week off
Wish I would have remembered Volatile sample, because pump would have been insane I bet

The few workouts I have got in, I really feel good on Endurance. I think the COP may be what is helping on the high volume. That is an ingredient my last intra lacked.

Calories were really low, and protein was low. Not good macro day. I set myfitness pal to 2400, but fell way short

Calories 1553
Protein 95 24%
Carbs 90 23%
Fat 92 53%

Here is what I had for dinner though:

Philly Cheesesteak Stuffed Pepper

545 cals
33 fat
13 carbs
44 protein

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cubsfan815 said:
Yesterday. Still not 100% so went a little lighter than normal. Stayed with Volume 100 to try to keep heart rate up. Rest times will say 60 secs, but I think I averaged more around 30 secs

Took half scoop Endurance 30 mins pre
1 scoop Endurance intra

Dumbbell Shoulder Press
10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (35lbs)

Machine Shoulder Press (used machine, since I have been weak due to illness)
3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (65lbs)

Side Lateral Raise
3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (25lbs)

Seated Bent-Over Rear Delt Raise
3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (25lbs)

Dumbbell Shrug
10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (60lbs)

Dumbbell Shrug
3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (80lbs)

Dumbbell Alternating Bicep Curl
10 sets of 10 reps, 60 sec rest (30lbs)

Dumbbell Alternating Bicep Curl
3* sets to failure, 60 sec rest (45lbs)

Incline Dumbbell Curl
3 sets to failure, 60 sec rest (40lbs)

Notes: Probably could have gone heavier. Felt pretty good, minus the congestion
Not sore at all today, even after taking basically week off
Wish I would have remembered Volatile sample, because pump would have been insane I bet

The few workouts I have got in, I really feel good on Endurance. I think the COP may be what is helping on the high volume. That is an ingredient my last intra lacked.

Calories were really low, and protein was low. Not good macro day. I set myfitness pal to 2400, but fell way short

Calories 1553
Protein 95 24%
Carbs 90 23%
Fat 92 53%

Here is what I had for dinner though:

Philly Cheesesteak Stuffed Pepper

545 cals
33 fat
13 carbs
44 protein

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that looks awesome
 
cubsfan815 said:
I only had provolone. Next time I will use low fat mozzarella, and maybe thin sliced chicken deli meat to cut fat down.
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no sir. provolone is perfect in my opinion.
 
cubsfan815 said:
Tasted perfect lol. Just not sure I need all the fat. Although I did fall 800 calories under
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thats all that matters! besides, hitting mainenance or even going a little over maintenance once a week or so is actually really beneficial when you're cutting. it keeps your body from going into starvation mode.
 
cswalczakny said:
thats all that matters! besides, hitting mainenance or even going a little over maintenance once a week or so is actually really beneficial when you're cutting. it keeps your body from going into starvation mode.
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Lol while sick I handled that. Pizza Buffet, Hardees, Blizzard cake for daughters bday, Arbys. Yup without supplements I binge like crazy
 
cubsfan815 said:
Lol while sick I handled that. Pizza Buffet, Hardees, Blizzard cake for daughters bday, Arbys. Yup without supplements I binge like crazy
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Yeah I get pretty bad too
 
Your making me hungry!! All this food talk is mean. My Diet: Eggs, Chicken, more Chicken, and more Chicken or fish. Oatmeal morning and Sweet potato post workout. and every third day I get steak.

Plus cardio 45 am and 30 pm.
 
cubsfan815 said:
Tasted perfect lol. Just not sure I need all the fat. Although I did fall 800 calories under
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Nice! I've done the same thing the last two days with pizza. :)
 
02sixxer said:
Your making me hungry!! All this food talk is mean. My Diet: Eggs, Chicken, more Chicken, and more Chicken or fish. Oatmeal morning and Sweet potato post workout. and every third day I get steak.

Plus cardio 45 am and 30 pm.
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Those are tasty too. I wish I could stomach sweet potato.
 
Yesterdays Workout. I forgot that I hit shoulders on Monday, and did Chest and Tri's lol. Oh well

1 Scoop Endurance started sipping on it on way from work to gym, 25 mins away. Of course I drank it all before I got there. Perfect sales idea, make it taste so good that people drink the crap out of it lol.

.5 scoop Endurance Intra

Gym was packed! Didn't get to some of the things I wanted

Incline Chest Press Life Fitness Plate Load Machine, not sure correct name for it
45lb plate on each side, starting weigh 11lbs per arm

10x10 110lbs 20-30 sec rest

Decline Chest Press, same type of machine
45lb plate on each side, starting weigh 11lbs per arm

10x10 110lbs 20-30 sec rest
3 sets to failure 160lbs 60 sec rest

VBar pushdowns
3 sets to failure 70lbs, 80lbs, 100lbs 30-45 sec rest

One arm cable pushdowns
5x10 22.5lbs

Reverse One arm cable pushdows
5x10 17.5 lbs

Pushups against the smith machine bar
3 sets to failure

Assisted Dips
3 sets to failure

Calories 2178
Fat 122 49% Mostly ground turkey, almonds, and evoo
Protein 187 33%
Carbs 94 17%

I need to get more protein powder, mine is all expired lol. Less than 6 months though

Notes: -Endurance seemed to intensify the thermogenic of Alphamine/Vanillean? I noticed increased warmth withing 15 mins of sipping Endurance
- Even though I hit Shoulders and Chest consecutive days, I am not sore at all
-I took no preworkout, and no 2nd dose of Alphamine, so I had no stims for 6 hours before workout, but I felt pumped up and ready to go
 
Still feeling a little stimmed out from 2scoops Alphamine this morning! That was 5 hours ago lol. I'm hoping I chill out a little bit. I want to try my Volatile sample tonight with Endurance. I know its low stim, but not sure yet if I should lol
 
Does the protein shake date matter? Mine is 4-5 year old. :)
I don't take it for protein though. I eat what I'm supposed to in protein and do a shake if I am short on calories.

Also, what's alphamine?

And while I'm asking a noob question, what does Versa 1 do? I have a bottle but don't want to take it while I'm logging something. I read that it's for focus? Is that something I take when bulking, or cutting, or ?

Not trying to hack your log...
 
RegisterJr said:
Does the protein shake date matter? Mine is 4-5 year old. :)
I don't take it for protein though. I eat what I'm supposed to in protein and do a shake if I am short on calories.

Also, what's alphamine?

And while I'm asking a noob question, what does Versa 1 do? I have a bottle but don't want to take it while I'm logging something. I read that it's for focus? Is that something I take when bulking, or cutting, or ?

Not trying to hack your log...
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Alphamine is a fat burner/pre workout by PES LiveToLift should be able to tell u more.

Versa-1 is by USP and is supposed to support muscle anabolism. Would be good on a bulk or a cut.
 
cswalczakny said:
Alphamine is a fat burner/pre workout by PES LiveToLift should be able to tell u more.

Versa-1 is by USP and is supposed to support muscle anabolism. Would be good on a bulk or a cut.
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Thanks!
 
First off. The Bulls Heat game was insane last night. So glad the Bulls ended the streak, without Rose, Noah, Rip, or Marco!!!

So after still feeling a little to stimmed yesterday, I decided to just go and do some cardio, with no Volatile

1 Scoop Endurance sipped pre-post

Elliptical 10 mins warming up while talking to my Dad on the phone about my car accident settlement offer. Felt like 2mins!
10 mins HIIT type. Level 13-15/out of 20 alternating 3mph then sprinting to 10+mph
10 mins switching from levels<10 to cool down, then level >17 to mimic a large hill

Notes: -Sweating a lot more than usual, like yesterdays post I feel Endurance increases my thermogenics?
-Was able to push myself pretty hard on the higher level(Hills) without legs feeling like they were burning
-During the HIIT type portion, heart rate was slightly lower than usual, allowing me to push myself harder
-Legs were super sore last night before bed, however they feel fine today!


Calories 1716
Fat 73g 38%
Protein 126g 29%
Carbs 143g 33%

I didn't want to eat that many carbs, until the weekend. But I got home late, and Pasta w/chicken(Italian sausage) was fastest thing to cook lol.

Also my Lean EFX Refined and Natural EFX are on the truck for delivery today. Basically only took 2 days to ship from Nutra.
 
Very nice. Let us know what you think about the sups once you start.
 
02sixxer said:
Very nice. Let us know what you think about the sups once you start.
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Oh I will. I will turn this Endurance log, into more of a Formutech log.

Any idea of what in Endurance would increase thermo feel of my other supps? Again, only thing I didn't have experience in the formula was C-O-P
 
cubsfan815 said:
Oh I will. I will turn this Endurance log, into more of a Formutech log.

Any idea of what in Endurance would increase thermo feel of my other supps? Again, only thing I didn't have experience in the formula was C-O-P
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Endurance should not have any increase in Thermo feel per se. There is nothing in it that would stimulate your body to sweat other than your hard work!! Once you start lean efx refined you will tell the difference. Good Luck.
 
Brucega said:
Endurance should not have any increase in Thermo feel per se. There is nothing in it that would stimulate your body to sweat other than your hard work!! Once you start lean efx refined you will tell the difference. Good Luck.
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Hmmm. That's what I thought as well. Sure seems to though. It may be the anticipation of heading to the gym that does it lol. So far I have enjoyed Endurance more than my previous 2 favorite intra products.
 
cubsfan815 said:
First off. The Bulls Heat game was insane last night. So glad the Bulls ended the streak, without Rose, Noah, Rip, or Marco!!!

So after still feeling a little to stimmed yesterday, I decided to just go and do some cardio, with no Volatile

1 Scoop Endurance sipped pre-post

Elliptical 10 mins warming up while talking to my Dad on the phone about my car accident settlement offer. Felt like 2mins!
10 mins HIIT type. Level 13-15/out of 20 alternating 3mph then sprinting to 10+mph
10 mins switching from levels<10 to cool down, then level >17 to mimic a large hill

Notes: -Sweating a lot more than usual, like yesterdays post I feel Endurance increases my thermogenics?
-Was able to push myself pretty hard on the higher level(Hills) without legs feeling like they were burning
-During the HIIT type portion, heart rate was slightly lower than usual, allowing me to push myself harder
-Legs were super sore last night before bed, however they feel fine today!

Calories 1716
Fat 73g 38%
Protein 126g 29%
Carbs 143g 33%

I didn't want to eat that many carbs, until the weekend. But I got home late, and Pasta w/chicken(Italian sausage) was fastest thing to cook lol.

Also my Lean EFX Refined and Natural EFX are on the truck for delivery today. Basically only took 2 days to ship from Nutra.
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I'm thinking the lactic acid buffering allowed you to push harder and increased your cal expenditure. Just a theory
 
cubsfan815 said:
Hmmm. That's what I thought as well. Sure seems to though. It may be the anticipation of heading to the gym that does it lol. So far I have enjoyed Endurance more than my previous 2 favorite intra products.
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Endurance is seriously the BEST bcaa out there hands down end of story.
 
cubsfan815 said:
Hmmm. That's what I thought as well. Sure seems to though. It may be the anticipation of heading to the gym that does it lol. So far I have enjoyed Endurance more than my previous 2 favorite intra products.
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Thank you. It really means a lot for you to say that.
 
cswalczakny said:
Endurance is seriously the BEST bcaa out there hands down end of story.
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I agree. Didn't take long to notice either. I feel guilty towards my purple wraath lol.

Tonight I'm waiting to go to gym until my wife gets off work. She wants to meet me there. So I will be able to go home and pop a few Natural EFX for the first time. Can't wait
 
Brucega said:
Thank you. It really means a lot for you to say that.
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No Problem. This is why logs are a great way to help people choose products. I was chosen for Endurance, which led me to follow the Natural EFX and Lean EFX logs. Which led me to purchase them.
 
Picked a bad night to go to gym last night. I forgot there were doing some 80's theme night. Place was packed, people were eating cupcakes etc.

Was planning on doing legs, but did cardio only instead. Yup more cardio, it's almost like I like it all of sudden.

Elliptical 25mins Level 10-15 varying speed

Then my wife and I got out of there lol

Notes: -Took .5 Scoop Endurance on way to gym, .5 Scoop Intra
-Dosed 1 Cap Vanillean and my first 2 caps Natural EFX Pre
-Probably the highest thermo effect I have ever felt. I had to keep stopping elliptical, to sip Endurance
-The highest level on elliptical I could easily do in past months was 13, since Endurance 15 is simple
-I should note I had 2 scoops Alphamine in AM, that was 9hours before workout. Not sure on carryover thermo from Alphamine

Dinner was all jacked up. I ended up eating Arbys. More Carbs, Carbs, Carbs.

Cals 2590
Fat 116 40%
Protein 144 22%
Carbs 248 38%

I have to do better at Macros!

And Ish is about to get real!!!!


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cubsfan815 said:
Picked a bad night to go to gym last night. I forgot there were doing some 80's theme night. Place was packed, people were eating cupcakes etc.

Was planning on doing legs, but did cardio only instead. Yup more cardio, it's almost like I like it all of sudden.

Elliptical 25mins Level 10-15 varying speed

Then my wife and I got out of there lol

Notes: -Took .5 Scoop Endurance on way to gym, .5 Scoop Intra
-Dosed 1 Cap Vanillean and my first 2 caps Natural EFX Pre
-Probably the highest thermo effect I have ever felt. I had to keep stopping elliptical, to sip Endurance
-The highest level on elliptical I could easily do in past months was 13, since Endurance 15 is simple
-I should note I had 2 scoops Alphamine in AM, that was 9hours before workout. Not sure on carryover thermo from Alphamine

Dinner was all jacked up. I ended up eating Arbys. More Carbs, Carbs, Carbs.

Cals 2590
Fat 116 40%
Protein 144 22%
Carbs 248 38%

I have to do better at Macros!

And Ish is about to get real!!!!


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that stack is going to MELT the fat. Concentrate more on your protein intake, worry less about numbers on fat and carbs. Get at least 200g protein every day
 
cubsfan815 said:
Picked a bad night to go to gym last night. I forgot there were doing some 80's theme night. Place was packed, people were eating cupcakes etc.

Was planning on doing legs, but did cardio only instead. Yup more cardio, it's almost like I like it all of sudden.

Elliptical 25mins Level 10-15 varying speed

Then my wife and I got out of there lol

Notes: -Took .5 Scoop Endurance on way to gym, .5 Scoop Intra
-Dosed 1 Cap Vanillean and my first 2 caps Natural EFX Pre
-Probably the highest thermo effect I have ever felt. I had to keep stopping elliptical, to sip Endurance
-The highest level on elliptical I could easily do in past months was 13, since Endurance 15 is simple
-I should note I had 2 scoops Alphamine in AM, that was 9hours before workout. Not sure on carryover thermo from Alphamine

Dinner was all jacked up. I ended up eating Arbys. More Carbs, Carbs, Carbs.

Cals 2590
Fat 116 40%
Protein 144 22%
Carbs 248 38%

I have to do better at Macros!

And Ish is about to get real!!!!
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That sounds like a terrible idea to have a theme night at the gym! I go tot he gym for one reason....to workout not dress up and socialize lol, that would be annoying

Anyways rant over that is a very nice look stack you got there
 
Xfit10 said:
That sounds like a terrible idea to have a theme night at the gym! I go tot he gym for one reason....to workout not dress up and socialize lol, that would be annoying

Anyways rant over that is a very nice look stack you got there
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Yeah, they even had a raffle, and stopped me mid session to fill it out.
 
cubsfan815 said:
Yeah, they even had a raffle, and stopped me mid session to fill it out.
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are you fawkin kidding me?? I'd flip if someone came up and interrupted my lifting for something like that
 
what gym do you go to? they must think its Curves with all the socializing. lol
 
cswalczakny said:
that stack is going to MELT the fat. Concentrate more on your protein intake, worry less about numbers on fat and carbs. Get at least 200g protein every day
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200g is where I was shooting for, I need to order some more protein powder. My prob is I don't eat much at work, then try to cram it all in at home. I need to start drinking protein shakes at work.

As far as stack, I thinking 2 scoops Alphamine AM, then trying 1 cap Lean EFX Refined 6 hours later, until Alphamine runs out. I'm kind of in this transition from one supp to the next phase lol
 
Few weeks ago I had this UNSUPERVISED 10 year kid playing 100 questions with me in the middle of my WOD! Playing in equipment you know the works finally I just asked him to go sit up front and I would answer any question I could that he had for me when I was done. I'm glad the kid wanted to learn about what I was do but dang...he didn't ask any more questions when I was done....oops lol
 
cswalczakny said:
what gym do you go to? they must think its Curves with all the socializing. lol
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An Anytime fitness. I have one a few blocks from my house, and one a few blocks from work. So super convenient. I think the one by house, was just trying to get more memberships, so they had the function lol.

They just added a bunch of TRX stuff. Looks kind of interesting
 
Xfit10 said:
Few weeks ago I had this UNSUPERVISED 10 year kid playing 100 questions with me in the middle of my WOD! Playing in equipment you know the works finally I just asked him to go sit up front and I would answer any question I could that he had for me when I was done. I'm glad the kid wanted to learn about what I was do but dang...he didn't ask any more questions when I was done....oops lol
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LOL.

When I take my daughters, they just sit up front with ipods and play games.
 
Friday was the 1st nice day we have had this Spring.

My wife wanted to skip the gym so we could take the dog for a walk.

Worked up a pretty good sweat



Saturday:

Went to gym fasted

1scoop Volatile sample pack
2caps Natural EFX
1scoop Alphamine
1cap Vanillean

1.5scoops Endurance

Volatile sample: For me I love the fact that it is lower stim. I was nervous to take it since I had taken Alphamine, but it was perfect. Nice smooth focus. I was locked in and ready to do work.

Back/bi's

Rows: 2plates each side 10x10 204lbs
3plates each side 3 to failure 300lbs

Lat pull downs: 10x10 100lbs

Dumbbell curls: 5x10 30lbs. Started really feeling a pump, this early into workout

Dumbbell alternating: 45lbs to failure

So I don't know if I was not doing light enough weight for the 10x10. I had more work planned, but the PUMP was more than I have ever had. On last set of Alternating curls, I dropped weight to 30lb db and my left arm felt numb, and I almost dropped the dumbbell.

Being overweight and on stims, my 1st thought was heart attack lol. After I settled myself down, I realized that it was from going to failure, while having such a pump.

I decided I better stop there. Went and did cardio while my wife tanned.

Elliptical 20mins

Notes: Endurance honestly is an awesome product. I can tell big difference while doing cardio, and high volumes. If any lurkers think I might be saying that because it's a sponsored Endurance log, PM I will send you links to sponsored logs I have ran here and other forums where the products didn't work for me.

Volatile: um lol. It was just one sample, so I can't say a whole lot yet. However, something happened early into my workout. I honestly have never had a pump that scared me lol. The taste berry eruption was pretty good. I used too much water on accident, so I watered it down. I think I have one more sample left, I will use it on chest/tri.

Natural EFX: Only on day 2 so far, at just 4caps a day. I can say I notice the diuretic effect right away lol. At dinner last night, I almost ran over my children and random people to get to a bathroom.

Friday/sat food choices were not the best. Last Sunday I weighed in at 304.5 this morning 298.8!
 
cubsfan815 said:
Friday was the 1st nice day we have had this Spring.

My wife wanted to skip the gym so we could take the dog for a walk.

Worked up a pretty good sweat

Saturday:

Went to gym fasted

1scoop Volatile sample pack
2caps Natural EFX
1scoop Alphamine
1cap Vanillean

1.5scoops Endurance

Volatile sample: For me I love the fact that it is lower stim. I was nervous to take it since I had taken Alphamine, but it was perfect. Nice smooth focus. I was locked in and ready to do work.

Back/bi's

Rows: 2plates each side 10x10 204lbs
3plates each side 3 to failure 300lbs

Lat pull downs: 10x10 100lbs

Dumbbell curls: 5x10 30lbs. Started really feeling a pump, this early into workout

Dumbbell alternating: 45lbs to failure

So I don't know if I was not doing light enough weight for the 10x10. I had more work planned, but the PUMP was more than I have ever had. On last set of Alternating curls, I dropped weight to 30lb db and my left arm felt numb, and I almost dropped the dumbbell.

Being overweight and on stims, my 1st thought was heart attack lol. After I settled myself down, I realized that it was from going to failure, while having such a pump.

I decided I better stop there. Went and did cardio while my wife tanned.

Elliptical 20mins

Notes: Endurance honestly is an awesome product. I can tell big difference while doing cardio, and high volumes. If any lurkers think I might be saying that because it's a sponsored Endurance log, PM I will send you links to sponsored logs I have ran here and other forums where the products didn't work for me.

Volatile: um lol. It was just one sample, so I can't say a whole lot yet. However, something happened early into my workout. I honestly have never had a pump that scared me lol. The taste berry eruption was pretty good. I used too much water on accident, so I watered it down. I think I have one more sample left, I will use it on chest/tri.

Natural EFX: Only on day 2 so far, at just 4caps a day. I can say I notice the diuretic effect right away lol. At dinner last night, I almost ran over my children and random people to get to a bathroom.

Friday/sat food choices were not the best. Last Sunday I weighed in at 304.5 this morning 298.8!
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Dude 6lbs is HUGE!!! THATS 2% OF YOUR BODY WEIGHT IN A WEEK!!! so glad you wanted to log for me you're doing awesome!
 
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