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Logging M-Sten Rx/Trenazone/ Epistane

Thanks fellas! Im gonna shoot for 305 as a Max before cycle ends on incline. I dont know what my bench is since I haven't done it in a while. Im working on my upper chest since its lagging a bit.
 
Lethargy is kicking my ass. Never again will run a cycle without a dht or test base. I of course knew this was gonna happen so I can't be complaining.
 
Epi did the same thing to me. Nothing ever put me on my ass like it did. Love the stuff, but never solo again. Stano your ass off if nothing else.
 
Wilko said:
Epi did the same thing to me. Nothing ever put me on my ass like it did. Love the stuff, but never solo again. Stano your ass off if nothing else.
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I found anything over 40mg/day absolutely rolled me in respect to lethargy.
 
Very good stuff so far and that sucks with the lethargy, but once you battle through it and still put up great numbers; you'll be able to look back, use that as motivation and kill it next time that happens. It's a little too late to use gloucasmine effectively, because that takes time to kick in, but if you have a bit of money laying around hop onto amazon and get joint force, that's helped me out tremendously past few years and it's a lot quicker to settle in opposed to glouca/chrond.

Other than that, just hang tough and keep forcing yourself to stay active and can't go wrong, best of luck and def gonna hop by again soon.
 
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SinX said:
Very good stuff so far and that sucks with the lethargy, but once you battle through it and still put up great numbers; you'll be able to look back, use that as motivation and kill it next time that happens. It's a little too late to use gloucasmine effectively, because that takes time to kick in, but if you have a bit of money laying around hop onto amazon and get joint force, that's helped me out tremendously past few years and it's a lot quicker to settle in opposed to glouca/chrond.

Other than that, just hang tough and keep forcing yourself to stay active and can't go wrong, best of luck and def gonna hop by again soon.
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Thanks man!
 
da_tank55 said:
In yalls experiences, what is your opinions on 4dhea vs dht used as test bases. Which one do you guys prefer?
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If you're in a rush and could get it in stores, I think the DHEA would help; however, if you have a bit of time, I would recommend picking up a test base topical (I think dermacrin might be better than RS). Some will say DHEA is more effective than DHT, but as we all know everyone reacts differently to different items.

How much longer do ya have till ya hit PCT? Test base topcials are only for on-cycle use, so if you don't have too much longer, it sucks, but you might have to fight it out or just take a good amount of DHEA and hopefully that'll help out for the time being. But the delivery system in those topicals take a bit of time to kick in and I wouldn't suggest using it past 5-6 weeks, otherwise you'll retain a bit more water, etc.
 
They work in different ways. The dht helps with tren compounds. And the dhea like dermacrine was used a lot with halo and sd. But everyone always said dermacrine and epi we the best of friends
 
Day 39

Chest is on fire. Really put some good work in. Decided to throw in some craze pwo that I have. Love that stuff. Here are some number from todays workout.

Bench press:

135x20
225x12
255x10
275x8
295x6

Incline Db press:

110's x4x8

Other Accessory work including Chest dips, Incline Flyes, Db pullovers, and Around the worlds.
 
I'm powering through lethargy fellas. Craze definitely helped with focus for the gym. Ill moniter my bp. Ill measure my bodyfat in a week, hoping to be around 16 or 17%.

Todays weight: 232.4
 
Keep killing, try higher carbs to help with the lethargy
 
SinX said:
If you're in a rush and could get it in stores, I think the DHEA would help; however, if you have a bit of time, I would recommend picking up a test base topical (I think dermacrin might be better than RS). Some will say DHEA is more effective than DHT, but as we all know everyone reacts differently to different items.

How much longer do ya have till ya hit PCT? Test base topcials are only for on-cycle use, so if you don't have too much longer, it sucks, but you might have to fight it out or just take a good amount of DHEA and hopefully that'll help out for the time being. But the delivery system in those topicals take a bit of time to kick in and I wouldn't suggest using it past 5-6 weeks, otherwise you'll retain a bit more water, etc.
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I have about two more weeks till pct. I'm just gonna hang on until then. For my next cycle in Novemeber/December I'm just gonna use test as a base :D 10-12 weeks of cyp or enanthate using Lgi alpha20 as a kickstart
 
da_tank55 said:
I have about two more weeks till pct. I'm just gonna hang on until then. For my next cycle in Novemeber/December I'm just gonna use test as a base :D 10-12 weeks of cyp or enanthate using Lgi alpha20 as a kickstart
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I was gonna unfortunately say, yeah with 2 weeks left, gotta tough it out; but remember, when you have to dig deep and really fight for it, those are the best workouts and those are staple moments to look back onto for motivation. Your next cyc sounds boss as well!
 
SinX said:
I was gonna unfortunately say, yeah with 2 weeks left, gotta tough it out; but remember, when you have to dig deep and really fight for it, those are the best workouts and those are staple moments to look back onto for motivation. Your next cyc sounds boss as well!
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For sure man. Had that mentality during tonights cardio!

Yeah I'm stoked to run it. First time pinning! Ill run a couple of T3 cycles before it so I can be lean going in. It will be an all out bulk.
 
Not sure I've popped in here yet man. Good **** goin on. Got my cycle/log up and running. Not quite a week in yet but it's g2g thus far. Need to pick up some extra nac though

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eric40817 said:
Not sure I've popped in here yet man. Good **** goin on. Got my cycle/log up and running. Not quite a week in yet but it's g2g thus far. Need to pick up some extra nac though

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Ill have to go sub it man, kill it
 
Update:

Bad news bros. Tuesday evening I was playing a pick up game with some boys. I ended up rolling the **** out of my ankle and spraining it. Couldn't walk the last two days and haven't even touched a weight. Ill so bummed, but I haven't missed a dose yet or anything. Today I'm go hit some upper body workouts as best as I can.
 
da_tank55 said:
Update:

Bad news bros. Tuesday evening I was playing a pick up game with some boys. I ended up rolling the **** out of my ankle and spraining it. Couldn't walk the last two days and haven't even touched a weight. Ill so bummed, but I haven't missed a dose yet or anything. Today I'm go hit some upper body workouts as best as I can.
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I'd be pissed. Rest, ice, compression and elevation. Maybe the drugs will help the healing :p

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eric40817 said:
I'd be pissed. Rest, ice, compression and elevation. Maybe the drugs will help the healing :p

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I wanted to break everything I could find lol I was a little angry to say the least! I have 36 pills left so I'm bumping up to 60mg the last 6 days:D
 
dougeefreshh said:
Notice anything with ur nips, im on day 11 with epi and msten and i can squeeze a mini mini drop of clear liquid out wtf
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The only thing I noticed was some mass developing underneath the nipple and a little puffiness. No lumps or liquid. That might be prolactin related so I would suggest some sns inhibit-p or if it gets bad order caber.
 
da_tank55 said:
I wanted to break everything I could find lol I was a little angry to say the least! I have 36 pills left so I'm bumping up to 60mg the last 6 days:D
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I think my joints dried up just reading that.
 
da_tank55 said:
The only thing I noticed was some mass developing underneath the nipple and a little puffiness. No lumps or liquid. That might be prolactin related so I would suggest some sns inhibit-p or if it gets bad order caber.
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I mean literally nothing comes out its just alil wet, its just freaking me out shud i use inhibit-p instead of erase?
 
dougeefresh, I would be surprised if it was estrogen induced.
 
Alright guys, found out my foot is fractured. Way to end a cycle right? I decided I'm gonna go ahead and start pct tomorrow. I am satisfied with my cycle and how it turned out. Here are my final numbers:

Height: 6'2
Weight: 231
Bodyfat: 17%

Ended up with the same body fat I started with but 16 pounds heavier. Hopefully ill keep about 12-15 pounds after pct and at around 16% bodyfat. Here is what my pct looks like:

Clomid - 100x3 50/50/50/50
Anabeta - 6 caps ed
Forskolin 95 - 50mg ed
Daa - 3g ed
Erase - 0/0/3/3/2/1
Cycle assist
Tudca
 
All in all a very successful cycle. Unfortunate way for things to end, but better than killing it at week 2, right? Keep us posted on how things go through PCT. Curious to see what you end up with when all is said and done. Stay strooooooong, killer.
 
Sorry to hear about your foot bro. You killed that cycle though. Great work keeping your bf stable and still gaining that much muscle. Good lookin pct. Proper diet should enable you keep the majority of what you gained

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Thanks bros. Ill keep logging during pct. Looks like its upper body workouts for the next 3-4 weeks lol Goodbye leg gainz
 
da_tank55 said:
Thanks bros. Ill keep logging during pct. Looks like its upper body workouts for the next 3-4 weeks lol Goodbye leg gainz
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Sounds like a bros workout! Its all good dude, no one looks your legs anyway lol. You could always do isolation work for your legs though. Leg curls, extensions, adduction, abduction. At least keep your legs primed a bit.
 
Day 1 (pct)

The worst thing I ever tasted was the sarm s4 but clomid tastes nasty too. Ill start my creatine nitrate tomorrow. Thats my favorite but I have yet to try creatine magnesium malate.
 
Bout to run something almost identical to this, only question I have for you is did you have to buy 4 bottles of the Trenazone to equal out to 8 wk?
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Well fellas I recently started a cycle about 11 days ago consisting of Methyl Sten, trenazone, and havoc. Here is my dosing scheme:

M-Sten 20/20/20/20
Trenazone 2/2/2/2/2/2/2/2
Epistane 0/40/40/40/40/40/50

I'm prepared to deal with the lethargy since I'm not running a test base. Here is a list of some supports I'm running:

Cycle Assist
Taurine
Fish Oil
Tudca!!!
Glucosamine

I dose 250mg of tudca with each oral dose so about 750mg a day. I space the cycle assist 4 hours apart from my orals.

So i started Trenazone exactly 11 days ago and Msten 10 days ago. Epistane I just started today. Some measuremenst before cycle:

Weight: 215
Height: 6'1
Body Fat: Roughly 17 percent


Now as of today I am at 226 pounds. So I have gained 11 pounds thus far. Libido is still good, no shrinkage yet. Had some back pumps today when I dosed epi preworkout. Blood pressure is under control. Nipples are still g2g. The first week I actually felt bloated. Now I can tell the trenazone is kicking since I'm starting to lean up in the midsection. Just to clarify I'm taking advantage of msten and bulking. When I get off ill slowly reduce calories to maintenance so I can lean up a little. Having to cut this short but will update later
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I've ran trenazone at 8 weeks at 2ml a day. It took 4 bottles. And it was bad ****ing ass. Ran with dzine.

Op that sucks about the foot. I blew my knee out yesterday. So I'll be cutting out legs for two weeks then doing light legs for 2 weeks with a brace. Injures are a mother ****er. Over all nice cycle. Make sure ur still able to lift in pct.
 
Alright boys I'm back. Been trying to take care of everything while crutches, balancing work and home business. It is a sprain and a heel fracture so I'm on crutches for a couple weeks. Still keeping up with pct. I'm noticing hard morning wood now.

And to answer your question, it took 4 bottles of tzone. A little pricey haha
 
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