lboston said:Looking at this as a possible AI choice. Anyone have any lab work on it?
Also- I know it's topical, so what kind if transfer risk does this have?
I haven't used this brand yet.
But have used two others.
Transfer is great if you are married, it makes the wife horney as hell.
Down side is you don't know if she's late cause of the Formestane, or preggo.
Gotta cycle it also, don't want the misses growing a beard
Yes, just apply it to places they won't be touching.
Use only hands, then wash well after you apply it.
yes, inner thighs, abdomen, balls, underarms.
If I use 2 pumps daily should that be at once, or should I spread them out?
You can't put it on with your hands you need to use forearm or wrist. Some people have joint issues some don't. I'm using ph 17, dermacrine, 11 ketotestosterone and formeron 2 pumps a day with zero issues. Joint pain often has to do with inflammation. If you have joint pain my recommendation is topical celadrin on the painful joint. For prevention of inflammation use bromelaine, turmeric and cissus. Also if you use former and notice it leaving little gold flakes, wait ten minutes and apply purell hand sanitizer to the application site to allow more formeron to absorb. Formeron should help to get rid of water weight as well as any other estrogenic sides
Why couldn't you use hands like jbry suggested?
Red Fox said:If it's anything like androgel, putting it on balls is asking for prostate issues down the road...
How can this be both an AI and a PH? Sounds goofy
JD261985 said:You can't put it on with your hands you need to use forearm or wrist. Some people have joint issues some don't. I'm using ph 17, dermacrine, 11 ketotestosterone and formeron 2 pumps a day with zero issues. Joint pain often has to do with inflammation. If you have joint pain my recommendation is topical celadrin on the painful joint. For prevention of inflammation use bromelaine, turmeric and cissus. Also if you use former and notice it leaving little gold flakes, wait ten minutes and apply purell hand sanitizer to the application site to allow more formeron to absorb. Formeron should help to get rid of water weight as well as any other estrogenic sides
Read thread before posting.
He wants to minimize risk of transfer to his daughter's. Applying with wrist and forearms to prevent waste is fine if you don't care about transfer.
Unless he plans on wearing clothes from head to toe, with no skin exposed.
Can anyone say what kind of gains they get from this? **** sounds like androgel which was useless.
I'm not so sure it's a product you necessarily use for making gains. From what I've read on it, seems to be more of an AI. Of course, would you lower estrogen, it raises your testosterone to some degree. Not sure if it does anything significant towards big gains.
Red Fox said:I was wondering because it claims to be steroidal PH.
Does this AI murder sex drive too? Anyone who used it can you say
Just because its a "steroidal AI" doesn't mean it produces steroid/ph type gains. It knocks out aromatse activity quite well though so you can expect some of the typical low estrogen type sides. I have heard of some people making some gains off of it but generally that's not why people use it. I has never killed my sex drive but then again neither did ATD and that's notorious for that. I have not used this product myself but I have used a few topical formastane products in the past and they have all worked well in regards to reducing estrogen. I recommend using a scrub brush to completely get it off your hands after application.
Btw, Letro is not a steroidal AI as I think you had mentioned it was earlier
Just because its a "steroidal AI" doesn't mean it produces steroid/ph type gains. It knocks out aromatse activity quite well though so you can expect some of the typical low estrogen type sides. I have heard of some people making some gains off of it but generally that's not why people use it. I has never killed my sex drive but then again neither did ATD and that's notorious for that. I have not used this product myself but I have used a few topical formastane products in the past and they have all worked well in regards to reducing estrogen. I recommend using a scrub brush to completely get it off your hands after application.
Btw, Letro is not a steroidal AI as I think you had mentioned it was earlier
Ever used topical form on a test cycle?
Thank you brother.
I said it was a suicidal not steroidal lolz
lol thats actually what i meant. letro is neither a suicidal or steroidal AI just to clarify. thats why when people run letro for purposes such as gyno reduction, for example, its very important to either taper off the letro very slowly or to run a suicidal AI (like formastane) after coming off the letro to avoid estrogen rebound. sorry if that was confusing.