Looking to gain muscle
- Thread starter JMonty
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amiller745
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How long have you been lifting? How old are you?
Sean1332
Legend
You should focus on diet and training before hdrol. Diet and training alone can get you to 205 very easily. You want to say natural until you've maximized your potential and then you can consider PH/DS/AAS to push you past. You don't want to take that stuff and not be up to snuff with everything else in your regime.
Find an online calculator to figure your maitenance caloric intake. Add 250+ calories on top of that number. Count your calories and weigh/measure your food (Invalid Link Removed). If 250kcal extra isn't helping you gain, then eat more.
Focus on eating lean meats and whole grains, fruits and veggies. . Don't avoid fat- have nuts, oils, peanut butter ect. When I first start bulking I was only eating 40g of fat and I went no where. Avoid weight gainer shakes if possible. There's a reason they aren't called "muscle gainer" shakes.
What's your training routine now?
Find an online calculator to figure your maitenance caloric intake. Add 250+ calories on top of that number. Count your calories and weigh/measure your food (Invalid Link Removed). If 250kcal extra isn't helping you gain, then eat more.
Focus on eating lean meats and whole grains, fruits and veggies. . Don't avoid fat- have nuts, oils, peanut butter ect. When I first start bulking I was only eating 40g of fat and I went no where. Avoid weight gainer shakes if possible. There's a reason they aren't called "muscle gainer" shakes.
What's your training routine now?
ThunderHumper
Banned
Rodja said:
double time this. + add huge waste of money on top
JMonty
New member
Eat what anything and everything?
Red Fox
Member
Eat very lean.
You're looking at boiled chicken and rice
Steak and potatoes
Eggs without the yolks
Lots of vegetables and/or fruit
2-3 protein shakes a day.
But please, look for alternatives to this PH. It is very toxic in my honest opinion
Red Fox
Member
NP. How old are you again?
If you're 24+, I would look into trying 500mg test cyp a week for 12 weeks, assuming you've also been working out for a few years. Much safer than ANY pro hormone that I am aware of?
Red Fox
Member
Ah ok. Yeah definitely stay away from even PH's for now then, but when you're a little older you'll be good to go. Just research til then... and IMO go with testosterone cypionate down the road.
JMonty
New member
ok so more protein and vegges and fruit within the day with 3 protein shakes a day im not gonna do PH or tests till i need to
kdeome
Member
Lifting for 3 years at 19, so started at 16... you should be massive if you were really working at that age.
The fact that you want to jump on halodrol at 19 and have no idea about diet is scary. You at least understand Macros right?
Not being a dick but... the mindset you potray is that of an inexpierenced lifter who will be another example the anti AAS advocates will point to.
Lift heavy, lift often, eat clean, eat alot. Come back in 4-5 years and if you arent a tank (you will be with hard work and dedication) jump on the juice. PH are a waste imo.... AAS (wet) ftw.
The fact that you want to jump on halodrol at 19 and have no idea about diet is scary. You at least understand Macros right?
Not being a dick but... the mindset you potray is that of an inexpierenced lifter who will be another example the anti AAS advocates will point to.
Lift heavy, lift often, eat clean, eat alot. Come back in 4-5 years and if you arent a tank (you will be with hard work and dedication) jump on the juice. PH are a waste imo.... AAS (wet) ftw.
Red Fox
Member
Yes my friend. Most people recommend 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight a day. You should gain a few lbs a month doing that consistently. I drink 2 protein shakes a day and have gained a good amount of weight since starting.
Vegetables and fruits are very important. Which do you prefer? Personally, I like fruits, but eat whichever you want.
kdeome
Member
Start with a 40/40/20 macro split based on your daily minimum caloric requirement. Up the calories by 100 per day after the first couple weeks until you find the qty that fits you best. Reduce carbs to shred or up them to gain. I do a 50/30/20 based on 2100 calories daily as im on a cut.
It takes time and practice and most of all experimentation to figure out what diet is best for you. I take in 1.5-2 times my weight in protein as a general rule.
It takes time and practice and most of all experimentation to figure out what diet is best for you. I take in 1.5-2 times my weight in protein as a general rule.
DrDeca
Member
Lol you mustve not ran pct......35days wow hahah i ran mdrol which is heavier than hdrol and i only lost sex drive for 1 week after cycle then i was back to normal...
Red Fox
Member
You're right, I didn't take a PCT, because I couldn't find legitimate info on if they tested for SERMs... didn't want nolva or clomid to pop up in the test because I didn't have a prescription O_O
chris223
Active member
It killed your sex drive, thus it's poison? DAA kills my sex drive; is that poison as well?
JMonty
New member
what is Macro split draw i just lifted and took protein nothing else which is why im here to learn all i can
Red Fox
Member
It also caused the heaviest fatigue I've ever seen. Didn't want to lift, didn't want to move, didn't want to eat... just wanted to sit there and sleep, nonstop. Couldn't have sex with my fiance, couldn't even think about getting it up. The sex drive was the part most people respond to, but in reality the poison came from the lethargy on the level of being hit by a train, a plane, and then a bomb.