Needing help with M1T cycle?

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Hey strength Bro's! For u guys who don't know me, I'm 31 and 6ft"2, 230 lbs, been lifting almost 2 years. And just finished my first AAS cycle which consisted of 10 weeks test e 500mg/week dbol 50mg kicker and 6 weeks winny 50mg

I was wanting to run M1T for strength purposes and trying to Bulk like a mutha focka! Having said that I want to get ppl's exsperience with this substance and wondering if it would b more beneficial as far as gains If I stacked with other AAS inj or run it solo? Here is what I was thinking of running

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1-10 test e 500mg
11-15 test e 750mg
1-12 decca 400mg
1-4 M1T 10mg/day for week 1 and bumping up 20mg/ed
Also I wanna either throw in m1T for last 3 weeks at 10mg/ed or run var weeks 12-16 and doses not sure about

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run M1T for 4 weeks at 20mg/ed for a solo run and wait to run previous cycle without the M1T

Also I will b using exemastine 12.5 mg ed, HCG durring the inj cycle, and Pct will b clomid 100/100/50/50 and I have nolva too so I might run it in pct too with the inj cycle

Also I will b running tudca liver suport throughout either cycle and pct will b running d-pol and recycle on either cycle aswell.

If there's anything else that u guys will recommend I'm all ears and I will getting bloods checked at half way point of the first proposed cycle to make sure liver is good to go for another oral.

Thanks for all feed back!
 
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Sub'd for knowledge on M1T

Curious to see what ppl say, in hopes of possibly running it solo in the near future.
Good lux!
 
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I'm in for info. I have m1t as well ;-)
 
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Wow, figured the big boss would've already had all the possible knowledge about it.. This is a first ;)
Haha I shared all my knowledge with it via pm I'm in for more
 
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Don't hesitate to send that PM my way then homie if you feel like it! Let's see what else anybody knows about it.
Will do brother :)
 
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Haha I shared all my knowledge with it via pm I'm in for more
Bro if you got any info, on this monster I would appreciate some... I have a few sittin around and considering a run. Just need some more info.


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Cycle looks fine but you already know my opinion on m1t. Lol I vote you switch it to tne/Dbol/drol blend ;) Run that pre-wo.

Run var at 75-100mg on the back half. 4 weeks would be minimum I'd use it.
 
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I'm in for info. I have m1t as well ;-)
AB has rissen, No sleep today bro? There's a lot of ppl that dislike this stuff badly, but then again I have seen others who loved it. Personaly when ppl are scared of something I wanna try it ;)
 
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Cycle looks good. TUDCA will work marvelously. I'd run cycle assist to. Methyl 1 Test is a monster when done right can yield huge gains but like stated very dangerous. Not to sure on sides as I have never had any from anything yet but doesn't mean they won't happen. Take all precautions. Remember the faster the gains the harder to maintain. Curious to see this. I'll be runnin it next
 
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Cycle looks fine but you already know my opinion on m1t. Lol I vote you switch it to tne/Dbol/drol blend ;) Run that pre-wo.

Run var at 75-100mg on the back half. 4 weeks would be minimum I'd use it.
Thanks Frank! Any yeah I know ur opinion lol And I think u know what I'm gunna Do ;)
I've always been someone who has to learn the hard way. But then again not everyones the same too. But I apreciate ur advice. As now I will try the drol and have heard good things about tne so I will research those and add them into another run.

Also I meant to mention, would it b good to run prami in this cycle
 
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Remember the faster the gains the harder to maintain.
Exactly, so all this harsh ass ****, for what?

Leading into a meet is a bit different, but even then I would just run something else.

Why people choose to run these things is beyond me. People ran M1t back in the day because it was legal.

Think it is one of those things you guys will come to realize over time that running all these orals, designer compounds just isn't worth it. Keep it simple. Run some ****ing Test and tren, var at the end, and call it a day.

I worked with a VERY well known nutritionist/prep coach about 5-6 years ago, and he told me then. **** all these orals, stick to the basics(test, deca/npp, tren) forget all these exotic compounds, he has people at an eliete level(PL and BB) who run nothing but those compounds.

As for prami. Who knows. Have some. If you need it use it. I know people who can run over 1.5g of test and damn nead a g of deca/tren and need NOTHING. No AI, NOTHING.

I have said it before and I will say it again I rather just run a low dose of Nolva if I have any gyno present itself then run a dopamine agonist. People will disagree because they haven't done it, and they rather run 50 different bathtub brewed ancillaries..heh

Just my .02c
 
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Cycle looks good. TUDCA will work marvelously. I'd run cycle assist to. Methyl 1 Test is a monster when done right can yield huge gains but like stated very dangerous. Not to sure on sides as I have never had any from anything yet but doesn't mean they won't happen. Take all precautions. Remember the faster the gains the harder to maintain. Curious to see this. I'll be runnin it next
Yeah I've noticed it is Dangerous by googling it, but like u said there's a lot of potential in strength. I will get the cycle assist too as I know this is a serious ph and I'm taking all precautions with this cycle to make it successful. And my thinking is since I will b running the test too that there isn't gunna b that shut down u would normaly get from running solo since my test levels would b through the roof lol

I can't wait to run this for sure. Goal is too get close to 405 bench durring this run ;)
 
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Exactly, so all this harsh ass ****, for what?

Leading into a meet is a bit different, but even then I would just run something else.

Why people choose to run these things is beyond me. People ran M1t back in the day because it was legal.

Think it is one of those things you guys will come to realize over time that running all these orals, designer compounds just isn't worth it. Keep it simple. Run some ****ing Test and tren, var at the end, and call it a day.

I worked with a VERY well known nutritionist/prep coach about 5-6 years ago, and he told me then. **** all these orals, stick to the basics(test, deca/npp, tren) forget all these exotic compounds, he has people at an eliete level(PL and BB) who run nothing but those compounds.

As for prami. Who knows. Have some. If you need it use it. I know people who can run over 1.5g of test and damn nead a g of deca/tren and need NOTHING. No AI, NOTHING.

I have said it before and I will say it again I rather just run a low dose of Nolva if I have any gyno present itself then run a dopamine agonist. People will disagree because they haven't done it, and they rather run 50 different bathtub brewed ancillaries..heh

Just my .02c
I understand ur point Frank, much apreciated!

I won't get the prami since I don't know how it will work for me and or if I even need it. Also my 3rd cycle will b tren,prop,var and maybe clenbueteral or something that will help me cut up as if going into a bb competition

Goals to b 260 cut and I plan on getting there :)
 
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Thanks brutha. When do you plan on running this biatch?
Its gunna b prolly 1st of March or maybe middle of feb depending how my bloods look. I just ffinished a test e, dbol, winny cycle so half way through pct
 
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Lets all break this down together...

What sort of gains/strength gains will m1t yield?

Can you not obtain such gains with compounds that have been run since bodybuilding began?

Would those compounds not elicit the same exact results? You already went the aas route so why **** with an oral?

I'm with Frank on this one it makes zero sense to run something 10x more toxic for the same exact outcome. Also remember that a lot of the members who love m1t are 20 year old kids on anabolic minds that have zero idea of what the cycle did to their bodies (Not you ab lol!).

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Lets all break this down together...

What sort of gains/strength gains will m1t yield?

Can you not obtain such gains with compounds that have been run since bodybuilding began?

Would those compounds not elicit the same exact results? You already went the aas route so why **** with an oral?

I'm with Frank on this one it makes zero sense to run something 10x more toxic for the same exact outcome. Also remember that a lot of the members who love m1t are 20 year old kids on anabolic minds that have zero idea of what the cycle did to their bodies (Not you ab lol!).

- Valdez
Thanks for ur input Bro! I'm still in the learning stages I guess and I'm one of those guys that has to learn by trial and error before I can realy comment one way or the other.

Also I'm learning from u guys about things to take to help prevent such harshness on my liver. I feel aslong as bloods come back good then there's no real reason to not use orals a few times.

My goal is to go to prop, and tren and mainly injectables on my 3 rd cycle but In the mean time was just seeing how my body reacts to these dif compounds before I went the big ****!

On a side not: I've used just about every designer drug there is for recreational purposes as a Kid and feel like I know how my body reacts to poisens. Since I quit those 8 years ago I'm just about as healthy as I can be and feel my body recovers diff from other peoples.
 
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It is all risk vs reward. Everything comes down to that. It isn't that you are going to die, or you're going to get cirrhosis in 4 weeks, etc. I am not one to overblow the risk factors.

You will live, and be fine. Maybe take a few days off your life..lol . Point is why purposely use something harsh as hell, when there are less harsh compounds that have been used for years(even clinically on humans) that will deliver the same results.

Again, people used that **** back in the day because it was a bandaid. It was the same reason everyone uses these worthless Ph/PS today(except m1t worked well). I can tell you I don't know anyone who runs or would run M1t today. Not because it is "that" bad, just because there is so much other, better ****, once you take the legality out of it.

Basically it is like me telling you "he MS I will give you $1000. You can either let me punch you in the arm, or kick you in the d1ck" And you go" Ahh awesome Frank, I will take the kick in the dick." lol.. End result is the same, you get $1000, why take an unnecessary kick in the dick.
 
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It is all risk vs reward. Everything comes down to that. It isn't that you are going to die, or you're going to get cirrhosis in 4 weeks, etc. I am not one to overblow the risk factors.

You will live, and be fine. Maybe take a few days off your life..lol . Point is why purposely use something harsh as hell, when there are less harsh compounds that have been used for years(even clinically on humans) that will deliver the same results.

Again, people used that **** back in the day because it was a bandaid. It was the same reason everyone uses these worthless Ph/PS today(except m1t worked well). I can tell you I don't know anyone who runs or would run M1t today. Not because it is "that" bad, just because there is so much other, better ****, once you take the legality out of it.

Basically it is like me telling you "he MS I will give you $1000. You can either let me punch you in the arm, or kick you in the d1ck" And you go" Ahh awesome Frank, I will take the kick in the dick." lol.. End result is the same, you get $1000, why take an unnecessary kick in the dick.
Damn, well said.

You definitely have me a good laugh there haha true true, why do we as humans willingly punish ourselves with poor decision?
 
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It is all risk vs reward. Everything comes down to that. It isn't that you are going to die, or you're going to get cirrhosis in 4 weeks, etc. I am not one to overblow the risk factors.

You will live, and be fine. Maybe take a few days off your life..lol . Point is why purposely use something harsh as hell, when there are less harsh compounds that have been used for years(even clinically on humans) that will deliver the same results.

Again, people used that **** back in the day because it was a bandaid. It was the same reason everyone uses these worthless Ph/PS today(except m1t worked well). I can tell you I don't know anyone who runs or would run M1t today. Not because it is "that" bad, just because there is so much other, better ****, once you take the legality out of it.

Basically it is like me telling you "he MS I will give you $1000. You can either let me punch you in the arm, or kick you in the d1ck" And you go" Ahh awesome Frank, I will take the kick in the dick." lol.. End result is the same, you get $1000, why take an unnecessary kick in the dick.
What is your fascination with Dick trauma?! Lmfao!!!!

- Valdez
 
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It is all risk vs reward. Everything comes down to that. It isn't that you are going to die, or you're going to get cirrhosis in 4 weeks, etc. I am not one to overblow the risk factors.

You will live, and be fine. Maybe take a few days off your life..lol . Point is why purposely use something harsh as hell, when there are less harsh compounds that have been used for years(even clinically on humans) that will deliver the same results.

Again, people used that **** back in the day because it was a bandaid. It was the same reason everyone uses these worthless Ph/PS today(except m1t worked well). I can tell you I don't know anyone who runs or would run M1t today. Not because it is "that" bad, just because there is so much other, better ****, once you take the legality out of it.

Basically it is like me telling you "he MS I will give you $1000. You can either let me punch you in the arm, or kick you in the d1ck" And you go" Ahh awesome Frank, I will take the kick in the dick." lol.. End result is the same, you get $1000, why take an unnecessary kick in the dick.
Lmfo! Good point Frank. I totaly agree and this will prolly b my last oral for sometime except maybe var as I plan to use prop,tren, mast. Just trying to get the most out of this since I already bought it.

I realy liked ur analogy lol what if I said I wanted the kick in the Dick haha
 
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I will see what all the fuss is about. Great points in here for sure. Atleast he's not runnin methyl tren or m diene Lmao
 
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why do we as humans willingly punish ourselves with poor decision?
There is times when pushing the envelope makes sense. (risk vs reward). IF you were coming into the Olympia, or a big meet with the potential to set a WR, then maybe you push it for a while. For most of us avg gym rats with no aspirations, or even the potential to ever compete at an eliete level(bb/pl) it is silly to abuse yourself any more than you have to.

However what starts to happens in this game is we begin to think, "Maybe THIS is the compound that takes me to the next level", "Maybe THIS is the one I respond awesome too, gain 20lbs on, and get super strong". We spend time on these boards and see **** others take, and results they may, or may not get, and sometimes forget the implications of our actions.

We all want it faster. Maybe this compound will get me there faster.

It is why people spend so much money on all these semi-worthless OTC supplements. It is because in their mind "maybe THIS one will work" "Maybe this will give me the edge I need". Keeps these supp companies in business.haha

And after you have tried it all, all these compounds, and beat the **** out of yourself(hopefully not too bad), you realize in reality what will get you there fastest is just being consistent. Day in and day out. Chipping away at it, year by year. Making AND keeping gains. Even gaining a solid few lbs a year. None of this **** is voodoo Witchcraft as much as some people make it out to be.


What is your fascination with Dick trauma?! Lmfao!!!!

- Valdez
haha. Gotta put it in terms people can "feel".
 
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Run m1t for no more than 3 weeks. You can gain up to 20 pounds in that time with the right diet. Drink a lot of water, keep a clean diet! I personally love m1t and CEL alpha 1. That **** is dangerous though!!
 
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Run m1t for no more than 3 weeks. You can gain up to 20 pounds in that time with the right diet. Drink a lot of water, keep a clean diet! I personally love m1t and CEL alpha 1. That **** is dangerous though!!
This was covered brotha lol
 
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