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LG PH-19 Budman's personal stash

Budman7811 said:
I started off with incline bench and warmup reps I felt so weak 10@95. then I went for my second set and the blood was flowing.

Icline bench
10@95
10@135
10@185

flat bench press
10@135
9@185
6@205
1@225
1@225
12@135

superset delt machine and pec fly
10@90+10@90
10@120+10@120
10@120+10@150

curl to arnold press
10@25
10@30
8@35

seated delt fly
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10@20

Superset pullovers+skull crusher
10@20+10@20
10@30+10@30

forearm curl(not sure what to call it but burned!)
10@20
10@30

handle pulldown for chest on the cable lat machine
10@90
10@120
10@135

2 sets of side to side
30@25
40@15

Feel really good... except this nagging shoulder that has been going on for weeks... I thinkI hurt it at work pulling on a 1000lb oven but I have had an issue longer then that....it would only come and go. I am not surprised it flared up again but I will just have to deal with it. Picked up a few more bottles of vitamin C, Garlic and Cinnamin caps just to get myself geared up tocut a little in a 1.5 months. WOnt be at the gym tomorrow(I dont think) tomorrow is my birthday and I am going to cookout tonight. Picking up a 1/2 bushel of oysters and fry up some whiting and tilapia. so.... well we know where this is going, proably a few empty calories
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Happy belated b-day! Hope the shoulder feels better.
 
Budman7811 said:
I know alcohol doesn't mix well. Ohh boy

Strong as an ox. No doubt.
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U going 4 weeks or u got another bottle?
 
AaronJP1 said:
U going 4 weeks or u got another bottle?
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Naw this will be it, really makes me strong. I feel I have hit some good weights. I know that this for a fact.


@luke thanks man.
 
just for future reference.. (spoiler alert) im a LG rep so you can take this or leave it.. in all the logs i am seeing across all the boards i am noticeing a patern.. everyone of the loggers seem to just be getting their swerve on when the the 4 weeks ends the cycle do to not having enough product.
all things being equal its my oppinion that to truely see the best effects from our PHs you should probbaly run them a minimum of 6 weeks and continue as long as 10 weeks for an optimal cycle. just remember this stuff is so new this is just emperical evidence im seeing in real time. my oppinion may change, but for now i think you will likely agree with me.. another 4 weeks would be a good thing.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
just for future reference.. (spoiler alert) im a LG rep so you can take this or leave it.. in all the logs i am seeing across all the boards i am noticeing a patern.. everyone of the loggers seem to just be getting their swerve on when the the 4 weeks ends the cycle do to not having enough product.
all things being equal its my oppinion that to truely see the best effects from our PHs you should probbaly run them a minimum of 6 weeks and continue as long as 10 weeks for an optimal cycle. just remember this stuff is so new this is just emperical evidence im seeing in real time. my oppinion may change, but for now i think you will likely agree with me.. another 4 weeks would be a good thing.
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Financially I cannot afford or I would. I picked up some PCT from another company that I will have to log. I am sure that it would be beneficial for that to happen but t this time I cannot, with the holidays approaching.

BtW I listen to what most have to say, most certainly the ones promoting their products. If you didn't believe or know then you would just be blowing smoke. And I have seen strength increase more then weight increase, the goal =yes.

I can only enjoy what I have and move one. But inthe future I will grab two.
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
just for future reference.. (spoiler alert) im a LG rep so you can take this or leave it.. in all the logs i am seeing across all the boards i am noticeing a patern.. everyone of the loggers seem to just be getting their swerve on when the the 4 weeks ends the cycle do to not having enough product.
all things being equal its my oppinion that to truely see the best effects from our PHs you should probbaly run them a minimum of 6 weeks and continue as long as 10 weeks for an optimal cycle. just remember this stuff is so new this is just emperical evidence im seeing in real time. my oppinion may change, but for now i think you will likely agree with me.. another 4 weeks would be a good thing.
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I have already asked a few of the veterans on here this but what's your opinion on stacking 17 &19 ? Obviously doing it the right way with proper PCT and all. Just wondered if you thought a two month run would still be the best route using them together? Don't want to do any damage to my liver and deff don't want gyno lol
 
TORC said:
I have already asked a few of the veterans on here this but what's your opinion on stacking 17 &19 ? Obviously doing it the right way with proper PCT and all. Just wondered if you thought a two month run would still be the best route using them together? Don't want to do any damage to my liver and deff don't want gyno lol
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personally i dont think 17 and 19 stack too great. i do hvae a logger running them both at double dose. hes working on a lean bulk. so far hes put on 6lbs after almost 6 weeks. i think you should pick your battles. 19 for bulkin and 17 for cuting. if you want to stack something.. stack 19 with m1db
and run for 8 weeks. will be better imo
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
personally i dont think 17 and 19 stack too great. i do hvae a logger running them both at double dose. hes working on a lean bulk. so far hes put on 6lbs after almost 6 weeks. i think you should pick your battles. 19 for bulkin and 17 for cuting. if you want to stack something.. stack 19 with m1db
and run for 8 weeks. will be better imo
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This brings up TesTren too then...
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
personally i dont think 17 and 19 stack too great. i do hvae a logger running them both at double dose. hes working on a lean bulk. so far hes put on 6lbs after almost 6 weeks. i think you should pick your battles. 19 for bulkin and 17 for cuting. if you want to stack something.. stack 19 with m1db
and run for 8 weeks. will be better imo
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I was told by one of the vets that stacking a wet and a dry like that would help counter any gyno. That's one of my big concerns. I was a very large guy(not in a good way) and want to get rid of the roundness of my chest. It's not gyno just not solid and I don't want to add to that with negative effects of 19. A lean bulk is actually what I was intending to aim for. And I am a noob so what does m1db stand for so I can look into that compound as well. Thanks for the info
 
TORC said:
I have already asked a few of the veterans on here this but what's your opinion on stacking 17 &19 ? Obviously doing it the right way with proper PCT and all. Just wondered if you thought a two month run would still be the best route using them together? Don't want to do any damage to my liver and deff don't want gyno lol
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I could be wrong but I believe that this product is not very harmful to the liver. So you should t have an issue running for 8 weeks. The whole 17-19 one behind the other no sure how that would turn out.
 
Budman7811 said:
I could be wrong but I believe that this product is not very harmful to the liver. So you should t have an issue running for 8 weeks. The whole 17-19 one behind the other no sure how that would turn out.
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I did read that it is suppose to be easier on the liver than most due to how it binds. But what about gyno with 19? But that does sound like a good idea running 19 then 17 followed up by proper PCT. Thanks for the idea.
 
TORC said:
I did read that it is suppose to be easier on the liver than most due to how it binds. But what about gyno with 19? But that does sound like a good idea running 19 then 17 followed up by proper PCT. Thanks for the idea.
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Well no liver problems with either as they are non methyls.
I would say Rip was right as each product is geared towards a specific goal.
I'm a fan of 17 though.
19 should not cause gyno @ all... That's one of the traits of it's "parent" compound but I think it might be a bit weak to induce gyno. Some are prone to it though.
 
AaronJP1 said:
Well no liver problems with either as they are non methyls.
I would say Rip was right as each product is geared towards a specific goal.
I'm a fan of 17 though.
19 should not cause gyno @ all... That's one of the traits of it's "parent" compound but I think it might be a bit weak to induce gyno. Some are prone to it though.
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Since I have you on the topic what AI would you recommend for in cycle. I figured id run endosurge and erase pro for pct. But as far as while on the ph I wasn't sure what would be sufficient.
 
i wouldnt go with 17 and 19 togther..i would use the 19 with something like the test tren...or take 17 with methyl 1D
 
purelife2 said:
i wouldnt go with 17 and 19 togther..i would use the 19 with something like the test tren...or take 17 with methyl 1D
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Rip stated TesTren was m1d blk and 19.
 
Superset
Overhand + underhand bb rows
8@135+8@135
8@140+10@140
8@145+10@145

Deadlifts
10@135
8@185
7@235

Nautilus pullover
10@90
10@110
10@130

Hammer strength mts AB crunch
20@60,70,80

Med grip low row
10@120,150,180

Seated shrug
10@4plates
10@6plates

Standin shrug
10@6plates
5@8plates
2@8plates
 
purelife2 said:
i wouldnt go with 17 and 19 togther..i would use the 19 with something like the test tren...or take 17 with methyl 1D
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Forgive me if I'm wrong but is tren banned? I keep reading the diff brands are. If there is one that's not could you recommend it? And also isn't anything that methyl hard on the liver? Or is 1D just mild ?
 
testren is our product and it doesnt contain "tren" its just the name given it because we tried to mimic its effects.. this one has a test base (LM1D) and the trenlike PH(PH19) stacked. there is a current tren product out there its called trenavar. its still legal. our M1D is not methylated it just the name it was given many yrs ago and is kinda our flagship product. yes its very mild
 
xR1pp3Rx said:
testren is our product and it doesnt contain "tren" its just the name given it because we tried to mimic its effects.. this one has a test base (LM1D) and the trenlike PH(PH19) stacked. there is a current tren product out there its called trenavar. its still legal. our M1D is not methylated it just the name it was given many yrs ago and is kinda our flagship product. yes its very mild
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Methyl 1 D? That's the LG flagship? Thought it would be other products besides that...
 
Purelife is who I was asking. He recommended a stack and the wording kinda confused me. But thank you two for the info
 
Ever since starting a product condense a little over a month ago. I have been pushing myself a little harder(enjoyed the look). Now I have been pushing just as hard and lifting heavier. I should be starting pct Sunday or Monday I will be logging it through another company, in the sponsored log section. Hopefully I can get some more good advice as I further my goals.
 
AaronJP1 said:
Methyl 1 D? That's the LG flagship? Thought it would be other products besides that...
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perhaps if you went back a little further into the past you could say it "was" M1T ... but ever since we have sold M1D with great success. and continue to do so.
 
This one for the LG


You are reps and I know you use LG products on a regular basis, my question is you've tested all I am sure but which do you keep as a staple, something you wouldnt use from another company because you believe in it so much?
 
Squat
10@95
8@135
6@185
4@245
4@275

Hack squat
10@2plates
10,10@4plates

Leg press+punching bag b/t sets
10@4plates
10@6plates
10@8plates

Leg extension
10@75
10@105
10@135
20@45

Leg raise
2x14

AB sled
14

Crunch
2x14
Side crunch
1x14(l&r)
Leg high crunch
1x20
 
Flat close grip chest press
8@95
10@135
5@185
3@205
1@215

Incline bench press
10@135
5@185
8@135

Dips
3x12

Low row
10@150
10@180
10@210

Straight bar tri pull down
4x10@50
 
Budman7811 said:
This one for the LG


You are reps and I know you use LG products on a regular basis, my question is you've tested all I am sure but which do you keep as a staple, something you wouldnt use from another company because you believe in it so much?
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right now its EPIC.. no lie

i like the new lipo pro but we are out of it currently reformulating to lessen the clumps..

i also love rezolution extreme.
 
Really good day today. Worked shoulder and arms. Shoulder were a little stiff from yesterday but still burned them today. Little tired after three days hard at it. Should be going again tomorrow, probably just going to do abs and cardio.

Tomorrow should be my last day of PH-19. Throughout this entire run I have made some decent strength increases. Most of my big movements(bench press, leg press, squats, shrugs... Few other)have increased by 15-50lbs. My biggest improvements have been with my squats, 275 the other day was a biggie and I felt like I could have done more. I have been pushing very hard and my joints feel it for sure. I am liking what I have seen and will give a last weighin tomorrow and all my thoughts.
 
Budman7811 said:
Really good day today. Worked shoulder and arms. Shoulder were a little stiff from yesterday but still burned them today. Little tired after three days hard at it. Should be going again tomorrow, probably just going to do abs and cardio.

Tomorrow should be my last day of PH-19. Throughout this entire run I have made some decent strength increases. Most of my big movements(bench press, leg press, squats, shrugs... Few other)have increased by 15-50lbs. My biggest improvements have been with my squats, 275 the other day was a biggie and I felt like I could have done more. I have been pushing very hard and my joints feel it for sure. I am liking what I have seen and will give a last weighin tomorrow and all my thoughts.
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Nice man!
Glad you got something out of the 19.
PCT time.
 
Well I have been thinking of what to come up with as my final review .... I cant compare it to any other type of PH. I have come to realize that the product is strong, and intensifies everthing. I was able to make a few PR's during my run, lots of confidence helped! This PH-19 made me feel like doing weight I had struggled with before. I didnt gain weight but I did increase the weight I could lift.
My beginning Calorie intake was not above 2500 like I thought, after two weeks I up the calories and started to notice some increases. I gained over 50lbs on squats, 10lbs and some reps on the different chest presses, my barbell rows is where I noticed it the most only because I have tried to do max weight and was only able to do 135 a few times and was not pretty. I hit a solid 155 x10 reps couple days. I would have to say that I was please with the product. I did notice that alcohol is not a good combo....my fault totally but i guess alcohol in all isnt good for those who are tyring to make some body/life changes.

I am glad I gave this a shot and will be looking into some PH-17 come spring time.... would be a great finally blow to a cut!

Take care guys and hope to see ya around
heres the PCT log I am starting up, probably throwing a testbooster in with it
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Good experiences BudMan! Nice write up!
 
Budman7811 said:
Coming from ANIMAL should mean something.
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My words have no bearing.
 
Have noticed a difference with intensity and confidence. The alpha feeling was nice. Been off for a week and already miss PH-19. Can't wait to give the Ph-17 a go, same strength gains but able to cut up. Seems like a no brainier there.
 
Budman7811 said:
Have noticed a difference with intensity and confidence. The alpha feeling was nice. Been off for a week and already miss PH-19. Can't wait to give the Ph-17 a go, same strength gains but able to cut up. Seems like a no brainier there.
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Yeah I'm a 17 fan: libido increase, strength, alpha feeling, reduce bloat... It's a win/win.
I double dose though.
 
Would it be better to run 17 at double dose for four weeks or regular dose for eight? Or double up for eight or is that too long of a cycle at too high of a dose? I thought that may ok since it is so mild but id like some more experienced opinions.
 
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