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squirtguns89

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prepping to run a 4 week super drol cycle 10/20/20/30(or 20) most likely, preloading cycle assist. pct is nolva 40/30/20/10, daa, erase, maca and fenugreek, probably throwing in toco-8 as well. now my question is about the somewhat debated prolactin issue that may be caused by sd. do you guys run inhibit-p for preventative measure or only when you see issues on cycle? and my main question is if i dont see any gyno nip issues should i even bother putting the inhibit-p in my pct? im considering buying a bottle but it never hurts to just have something like that laying around if i do have issues with future cycle use instead of throwing it in pct if i dont "need" it. opinions on inhibit-p use?

any feedback is greatly appreciated, ive gone through hundreds of pages trying to soak up everything in prep for this run, and just trying to smooth the last wrinkles out so i dont have to be the guy asking how to fix his c cup lactating breasts.
 
I'm running low-dosed sd for 4 weeks, and I'm gonna use inhibit-p. Can't hurt.

-low dose because I'm stacking it with Epistane as a kicker for a test e cycle.
 
UTSoccerbro said:
I'm running low-dosed sd for 4 weeks, and I'm gonna use inhibit-p. Can't hurt.

-low dose because I'm stacking it with Epistane as a kicker for a test e cycle.
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2 methyls...I hope you are rockin so tudca my man.
 
yeah i realize it probably cant hurt. i just dont want to buy things that arnt necessary, ive ran stuff before and never had an issue ive just been reading more about sd prolactin issues although ive read tons of logs where no one even mentioned issues with prolactin or inhibit p being usefull.

i dont see the difference between low dosing 2 methyls and running one at a normal amount..regarding the comment above.
 
squirtguns89 said:
yeah i realize it probably cant hurt. i just dont want to buy things that arnt necessary, ive ran stuff before and never had an issue ive just been reading more about sd prolactin issues although ive read tons of logs where no one even mentioned issues with prolactin or inhibit p being usefull.

i dont see the difference between low dosing 2 methyls and running one at a normal amount..regarding the comment above.
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If you're not sensitive to prolactin-induced gyno then there's no point. Seeing as how I haven't run sd before, I got some just to make sure. I figure dropping $25 to keep myself from lactating is a fair investment.

But yeah, in regards to the previous response, I got tudca/liv.52/cycle support/extra fish oil, milk thistle, etc. As long as you do your homework, prepare, and plan for sides and problems, you're gonna be ok :)
 
UTSoccerbro said:
If you're not sensitive to prolactin-induced gyno then there's no point. Seeing as how I haven't run sd before, I got some just to make sure. I figure dropping $25 to keep myself from lactating is a fair investment.

But yeah, in regards to the previous response, I got tudca/liv.52/cycle support/extra fish oil, milk thistle, etc. As long as you do your homework, prepare, and plan for sides and problems, you're gonna be ok :)
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lol yeah when you put it that way, 25 bucks to prevent babies wanting to breast feed on you is probably worth it. theres just so many opinions on this stuff. almost a old school vs new school and the worst part is each has sound arguments. the older school saying keep things simple, like unreals guide to sd saying just nolva and t booster. then the new school saying serms, ai's, inhibit p and t boosters. ive read sound arguments against ai's now im starting to question whether i even want to use my erase. apparently ai's have cause alot of issues, but id like to think running it properly it shouldnt be an issue. the pros= easier adjustment for estro in your system and t boosting properties, the cons= wicked rebound. im not sure why anyone would taper up on ai's at the end but ive read plenty where people do that and it doesnt make sense at all to me. any opinions on the whole ai debate?
 
squirtguns89 said:
prepping to run a 4 week super drol cycle 10/20/20/30(or 20) most likely, preloading cycle assist. pct is nolva 40/30/20/10, daa, erase, maca and fenugreek, probably throwing in toco-8 as well. now my question is about the somewhat debated prolactin issue that may be caused by sd. do you guys run inhibit-p for preventative measure or only when you see issues on cycle? and my main question is if i dont see any gyno nip issues should i even bother putting the inhibit-p in my pct? im considering buying a bottle but it never hurts to just have something like that laying around if i do have issues with future cycle use instead of throwing it in pct if i dont "need" it. opinions on inhibit-p use?

any feedback is greatly appreciated, ive gone through hundreds of pages trying to soak up everything in prep for this run, and just trying to smooth the last wrinkles out so i dont have to be the guy asking how to fix his c cup lactating breasts.
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dont ecpect much out of a 4 week cycle.
just another reson i dont like oral only or test-less cycles.
a worthy cycle would eb as follows:

wk1-12 teste 500mg ew (even juts an HRT amount if you must, while on oral,, because you WILL b shut down)
wk1-4 superdrol
wk1-13 AI: stane 12.5mg eod
wk13-17 PCT: Clomid 50mg ed and tamox 20mg ed if possible.

THATS a worth while cycle.

dont expect much out of any cycles under 10 weeks regardless of compound. (by that i mena MUSCLE MASS, not water in muscle and other bloat fat.
I am also no saying use orals that long I WOULD NEVER myself.
i stick to 4-8weeks max.

add test, even if its a topical base, better then nothing.

good luck
 
Husker89 said:
show me some scientific evidence backing up your claims that 2 methyls cause damage, I know they do to a degree, but I want facts
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ummm one can so 2 would be worse.......

if you lower dose of each, maybe. as i have done 30mg dbol 25mg drol for 6 weeks.
but i would never stack them at high dose or even one after the other, thats asking for issues
 
Blergs said:
dont ecpect much out of a 4 week cycle.
just another reson i dont like oral only or test-less cycles.
a worthy cycle would eb as follows:

wk1-12 teste 500mg ew (even juts an HRT amount if you must, while on oral,, because you WILL b shut down)
wk1-4 superdrol
wk1-13 AI: stane 12.5mg eod
wk13-17 PCT: Clomid 50mg ed and tamox 20mg ed if possible.

THATS a worth while cycle.

dont expect much out of any cycles under 10 weeks regardless of compound. (by that i mena MUSCLE MASS, not water in muscle and other bloat fat.
I am also no saying use orals that long I WOULD NEVER myself.
i stick to 4-8weeks max.

add test, even if its a topical base, better then nothing.

good luck
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im considering going for 5 weeks at like 10/10/20/20/20 and ill have to get that squared away before i start. but yes i know what your saying, ive read plenty of peoples opinions on none test cycles which decreases my expectations from this cycle. if this doesnt go well i plan to save the rest of my orals for jump starts to future test runs. ive seen plenty of not very muscular guys get fairly big from this so if i can keep 6-8 pounds of muscle ill be happy. but regardless im keeping my expectations realistic. any opinons on ai's for oral runs? im tempted to keep it basic and drop my erase. theres 2 big debates i keep reading, dont over due things and risk more things to go wrong vs take everything and cover any possibilities
 
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