PES/USP Testifying for my Muscles, Celorza to the Stand!!

I lucked out with Chapa honestly, he is really nice and he has the patience to teach me everything he knows hehe. Oh and about TP, no issues so far, on a past DAA run , to get rid of the GI discomfort on an empty stomach I simply dosed more BCAAs and chugged more water haha. SO far the ingredient I don't know from it is Afromomum Meleguetta and I haven't reacted bad to it yet (luckily).

Sick stack you got going on here... Just browsing and saw this post... I got to beta this stuff. It's incredible.. the cool thing about Afromomum Meleguetta is that it posses strong aromatase inhibiting properties. USP got a blend here that covers all the basis.. test/gh.. anti-a, prolactin.. you name it. I'm a big fan of this stuff.

I'm subbed in to see how things turn out for you. Do work!
 
Sick stack you got going on here... Just browsing and saw this post... I got to beta this stuff. It's incredible.. the cool thing about Afromomum Meleguetta is that it posses strong aromatase inhibiting properties. USP got a blend here that covers all the basis.. test/gh.. anti-a, prolactin.. you name it. I'm a big fan of this stuff.

I'm subbed in to see how things turn out for you. Do work!

Thanks a lot for subbing :), and thanks a lot for your input! I'll surely get to work :D!
 
Celorza said:
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Just sharing , a bro of mine, Chapa...he is the Powerlifter helping me out with proper form and with problems that my lifts/movements might have. (lockout, getting out of the hole and the like)

Rack lifts will help breaking past sticking points..guys form was perfect.Power Lifters are great to learn from.
 
Rack lifts will help breaking past sticking points..guys form was perfect.Power Lifters are great to learn from.

Welcome Jay :) and thanks for joining brother! On my coach's note...he is ANAL for form , FULL ROM and also Exploding...he is awesome for finding imbalances and also sticking points in the movements haha, it is a priviledge to train with him...though he makes high promises haha he says he'll have me competing in next years meet and winning a place at least xD
 
Day 6, 9/26​

Supps used Pre-workout:
-2 scoops TP
-1 scoop Bulk Modern BCAAs
-EC stack

Cardio day:

LISS Incline jog.

Time: 60 minutes
kCalories Burnt: 725

Workout Notes:
Not much to report, good cardio...pushed myself to go the extra push beyond just 40 minutes because I really want to lean out for now...Been really inspired lately to achieve a more desirable physique due to a female that has sparked my interest.

Stack Notes:

-Had a Really good night sleep last night, I had my 2 caps of AnaBeta with the night meal actually since it was the one with higher kCaloric weight due to me being busy.
-Woke up significantly leaner and still no show of prolactin rises or estrogen rising (DAA does that for me), though it is still too early anyhow, it should take at least 14 days for any of those to begin...but well one can't ever be too mindful of these.

Update coming tomorrow with Progress pics and summary of the first week.
 
Day 6, 9/26​

Supps used Pre-workout:
-2 scoops TP
-1 scoop Bulk Modern BCAAs
-EC stack

Cardio day:

LISS Incline jog.

Time: 60 minutes
kCalories Burnt: 725

Workout Notes:
Not much to report, good cardio...pushed myself to go the extra push beyond just 40 minutes because I really want to lean out for now...Been really inspired lately to achieve a more desirable physique due to a female that has sparked my interest.

Stack Notes:

-Had a Really good night sleep last night, I had my 2 caps of AnaBeta with the night meal actually since it was the one with higher kCaloric weight due to me being busy.
-Woke up significantly leaner and still no show of prolactin rises or estrogen rising (DAA does that for me), though it is still too early anyhow, it should take at least 14 days for any of those to begin...but well one can't ever be too mindful of these.

Update coming tomorrow with Progress pics and summary of the first week.

Man, 725 Cals is a lot for someone your size to burn in one cardio session. What's your daily Cal/macro intake look like, Cesar?
 
Dewey99 said:
Man, 725 Cals is a lot for someone your size to burn in one cardio session. What's your daily Cal/macro intake look like, Cesar?

Are you going off what the machine says for cardio or is there some formula that tells you how many calories burnt?
 
Machines are burning calories off a middle aged, 5'8" 150lb man. So even if it is off the machine, probably close. I used one of those monitors that you enter a bajillion things into and wear around your chest and when I put my weight and age in the machine and held onto the heart rate handles. It was pretty close, surprisingly.
 
Dewey99 said:
Man, 725 Cals is a lot for someone your size to burn in one cardio session. What's your daily Cal/macro intake look like, Cesar?

superbeast668 said:
Are you going off what the machine says for cardio or is there some formula that tells you how many calories burnt?

Distilled Water said:
Machines are burning calories off a middle aged, 5'8" 150lb man. So even if it is off the machine, probably close. I used one of those monitors that you enter a bajillion things into and wear around your chest and when I put my weight and age in the machine and held onto the heart rate handles. It was pretty close, surprisingly.

I have used this machines for a while and they let you input your height, weight and they have a heart rate adapter to calculate caloric expenditure. I have also used the Body Bugg and compared and it is pretty close an estimate so I just roll with it.

Guys you are not used to my logs haha, ask BeanPole haha these are usual numbers for me :p
 
Celorza said:
Welcome Jay :) and thanks for joining brother! On my coach's note...he is ANAL for form , FULL ROM and also Exploding...he is awesome for finding imbalances and also sticking points in the movements haha, it is a priviledge to train with him...though he makes high promises haha he says he'll have me competing in next years meet and winning a place at least xD

No sweat brotha and thnks for welcoming me!!! :)

I have always swore by form and ROM and negatives.. " Its not about what you lift but how you lift." - Thats a great quote to live by.It stuck in my heads since i first started training.

I believe with your will and motivation,i know you will compete next year and im sure you will do fantastic.

I have a buddy who is about 42,know him a long time but he now lives in Boston.We communicate often and here and there i ask for pointers on powerlifting techniques,being hes a powerlifter,lol. Through the years,i have made fantastic strength gains off of basic simple tips. Mind u,i never supplemented and train alone and up until about 4 months ago,never supplemented..food,creatine,fish oil and multis was all :).. so with how u do things u r in a win situation .

Kick some ass kiddo :)
 
Dewey99 said:
Man, 725 Cals is a lot for someone your size to burn in one cardio session. What's your daily Cal/macro intake look like, Cesar?

I was going to say the same.Being he is small framed.I dnt think cardio is even necessary,but to keep a good healthy heart,maybe 20 mins 3 mph walk on a slight incline is more than enough to keep a good heart and keep metabolism going.On top of weight training,which u are already burning up a **** load of calories...
 
I was going to say the same.Being he is small framed.I dnt think cardio is even necessary,but to keep a good healthy heart,maybe 20 mins 3 mph walk on a slight incline is more than enough to keep a good heart and keep metabolism going.On top of weight training,which u are already burning up a **** load of calories...

Nah I have actually maintained weight these past 2 weeks or so like this. My body is used to this kinda punishment on the cardio actually haha. I need to get rid of some of this...Blobber let's call it haha, it originated around my abdominals and I do not like it...


Also, Multi quote is broken. WELCOME DOJA!!
 
Celorza said:
Nah I have actually maintained weight these past 2 weeks or so like this. My body is used to this kinda punishment on the cardio actually haha. I need to get rid of some of this...Blobber let's call it haha, it originated around my abdominals and I do not like it...

Also, Multi quote is broken. WELCOME DOJA!!

No doubt man,no body knows ya body better than you!!!

You planing a bulk this winter?
 
Jay888999 said:
No doubt man,no body knows ya body better than you!!!

You planing a bulk this winter?

Hm lean bulk continuation yeah most likely, leading up some 12-16 weeks before next years meet...(I feel silly thinking about competing but haha what can I lose?)
 
Celorza said:
Hm lean bulk continuation yeah most likely, leading up some 12-16 weeks before next years meet...(I feel silly thinking about competing but haha what can I lose?)

Nothing to feel silly about...if i had the choice,id powerlift before id bodybuild to be honest...

Get yout hands on a copy of
"Power Unlimited:The movie"
Greatest powerlifting documentary ever..Actually u can find it on you tube,full movie,im pretty sure.

Youll fall in love with the sport!!

Also look into Westside Barbell....just go on you tube,they have dvda as well.
 
Nothing to feel silly about...if i had the choice,id powerlift before id bodybuild to be honest...

Get yout hands on a copy of
"Power Unlimited:The movie"
Greatest powerlifting documentary ever..Actually u can find it on you tube,full movie,im pretty sure.

Youll fall in love with the sport!!

Also look into Westside Barbell....just go on you tube,they have dvda as well.

Thanks a lot for the support brother! I do hope I make it, and between you and I...well we have talked about this before...Bodybuilding is NOT what it used to be...the Golden Age Look is > New generation of behemoths...I would never go into Bodybuilding by the nowadays definition of it. I'll be powerlifting and doing w.e there is in my natural power to make it to competitions...though I wouldn't mind if along the way I have the Golden Age look like my Coach/Bro :D!

Diet notes:

-Sudden developments call for the adding of Psyllium Husk to my diet in the manner of 15~g...I am a bit bloated and not processing the diet right I guess, this has nothing to do with AnaBeta or TestPowder, it had been going on for a while...but today my evening stool did not happen and my bowel movements generally have the precision of an English train...Alas Fiber added!
 
Celorza said:
Thanks a lot for the support brother! I do hope I make it, and between you and I...well we have talked about this before...Bodybuilding is NOT what it used to be...the Golden Age Look is > New generation of behemoths...I would never go into Bodybuilding by the nowadays definition of it. I'll be powerlifting and doing w.e there is in my natural power to make it to competitions...though I wouldn't mind if along the way I have the Golden Age look like my Coach/Bro :D!

Diet notes:
-Sudden developments call for the adding of Psyllium Husk to my diet in the manner of 15~g...I am a bit bloated and not processing the diet right I guess, this has nothing to do with AnaBeta or TestPowder, it had been going on for a while...but today my evening stool did not happen and my bowel movements generally have the precision of an English train...Alas Fiber added!

Lol,yeah,ur young...keep up what ur doing and youll only move fwd bro.

Dont be scared to put on bf,ur educated enough and young enough where cutting it shouldnt be a problem..lean bulks are nice,but we are short guys,we need some mass :)...

I was about 152 when i started training and through the years,just up to 2 1/2 months ago hit 212 ,thats from cutting bulking,cutting bulking every yr,cut to 190 now back upto 193.... Put on some weight,dont be scared!!!
 
Lol,yeah,ur young...keep up what ur doing and youll only move fwd bro.

Dont be scared to put on bf,ur educated enough and young enough where cutting it shouldnt be a problem..lean bulks are nice,but we are short guys,we need some mass :)...

I was about 152 when i started training and through the years,just up to 2 1/2 months ago hit 212 ,thats from cutting bulking,cutting bulking every yr,cut to 190 now back upto 193.... Put on some weight,dont be scared!!!

Oh I ain't that scared to put on some fast weight haha! I was 125.6lbs in April :p! Though competition weight reaching...and keeping strength hahahaha even thinking about it (even if it is like 40-50 weeks from now) makes me tremble xD I could bulk it up to 150-160...but being able to get back into 138 and lift as much haha DAMN!
 
Celorza said:
Oh I ain't that scared to put on some fast weight haha! I was 125.6lbs in April :p! Though competition weight reaching...and keeping strength hahahaha even thinking about it (even if it is like 40-50 weeks from now) makes me tremble xD I could bulk it up to 150-160...but being able to get back into 138 and lift as much haha DAMN!

Thats all 100 % possible and great job on the weight gain.Im am by no means a hard gainer,im thnkful for that to an extent,lol... Id shoot for a 165 bulk and a cut to 150 to even 155.Keep a mix of lean and dirty bulkin..Mix ur cardio around,some weeks high some weeks low to none you can put on as much as you like and still stay fairly tight. Its not easy but hard works pays off bud.
 
Day 7, 9/27​

Supps used Pre-workout:
-2 scoops TP
-2 Caps AB
-1 scoop Bulk Modern BCAAs
-EC stack
-2g COP
-6g Citrulline Malate

Bench Press day:

Warm Up:
-75x5
-95x5
-115x3

Working Sets:
-125x5
-140x5
-160x5+2 Total of 7 reps.
-175x2

Note: All sets were performed with a 2 second pause at the bottom to get used to waiting for the Press call...so it was a bit harder but it felt good, the Floor Presses are proving helpful in this aspect. Full ROM was performed.

Shoulder assistance: OHP (Ligher but Dynamic Movement)
-75x10
-75x10
-75x10
-85x10
-95x7 + 3 push presses.

Back Assistance: Kroc Rows
-70x10
-70x10
-75x10
-75x10
-80x10

Triceps assistance: Cable Pushdowns with full ROM, forearms to biceps with a slow negative.
-115x10
-115x10
-115x10
-115x10
-115x10

Workout Notes:
Ok I can say strength is going up good, recovery has been good since I have been feeling sore only for a day or a day and a half. Not much to report today on the workout side of things, no PRs today, mainly focused myself on perfecting form and really giving it my best.

Stack Notes:
-Increased Hunger has set in, even on EC...it is hard, but manageable :).
-No sign of a libido boost yet, not that much out of the ordinary anyway.
-Sleep was amazing last night, could be Test Powder at work.


Week 1 progress summary, stats and pictures.

Weight as of this morning in the nude, and post bowel movements: 142.4 (-.4 lbs)

So far on week one I have experienced:
-Enhanced sleep (as of the past days).
-Rise in hunger.
-Good mood.
-Minor strength rises that could be the sleep/diet and workout changes for now.

Progress Pics (Relaxed , no flex):
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Note: The back pick, I had forgotten to take it and it was barely taken, still no meals have gone by...so I hope it doesn't matter much.

Pictures were taken in the manner stipulated in the First Post.

Random Ego Pic taken:
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If you are adding 15g of psyllium husks daily I would highly recommend introducing it incrementally. It can potentially cause a lot of bowel discomfort if introduced in that large a dose as well as temporarily slowing down transit time even further.
 
If you are adding 15g of psyllium husks daily I would highly recommend introducing it incrementally. It can potentially cause a lot of bowel discomfort if introduced in that large a dose as well as temporarily slowing down transit time even further.

That would explain the reason why I had some abdominal pain today then! Thanks a lot Ben :) , I'll just add a teaspoon of it per day for some 2-3 days (around 3-4g) and them start building it up.
 
Celorza said:
That would explain the reason why I had some abdominal pain today then! Thanks a lot Ben :) , I'll just add a teaspoon of it per day for some 2-3 days (around 3-4g) and them start building it up.

Way too go you big dumb dummy.
 
That would explain the reason why I had some abdominal pain today then! Thanks a lot Ben :) , I'll just add a teaspoon of it per day for some 2-3 days (around 3-4g) and them start building it up.

Good idea. I have done it before and been fine but also done it before and made problems worse for a few days.

Either that or you are getting abdominal pain because you are menstruating, I am not sure which. ;)
 
Good idea. I have done it before and been fine but also done it before and made problems worse for a few days.

Either that or you are getting abdominal pain because you are menstruating, I am not sure which. ;)

My manperiod is delayed this month...I have been preoccupied by it indeed. Ben I think we need to talk...
 
I came for nudez and left aroused. Success.

Good progress brother ;)
 
I came for nudez and left aroused. Success.

Good progress brother ;)

Thanks brother :) , I'm trying my best :D! About to go into a hell of a squat day too haha...let's see how it goes!
 
I hear you on the fiber blues, I'll go a day or so without any movement even though I'm consuming 20gr fiber through broccoli, spinach, nuts & fiber drinks.

I've grown used to it I guess, only bad part is if there's no movement the day before a carb up, ugh. The day after don't plan on anything you can't be closer than 10 paces from the crapper....
 
Day 8, 9/28​

Supps used Pre-workout:
-2 scoops TP
-2 Caps AB
-1 scoop Bulk Modern BCAAs
-EC stack
-2g COP
-6g Citrulline Malate

Squat Day:

Warm Up:
-45x10
-95x5
-115x5

Working Sets:
-135x5
-135x5
-155x3
-155x3
-175xF Failed...tried to get it and couldn't :/

Note: All sets were performed with a 2 second pause at the bottom of the whole, completely ATG and waiting for a press call...it was horrible! I completely and utterly suck for Squats ATG! I seriously need to get stronger than this, I can't get out of the whole at all! I stay stuck right before I get to the part of the Hip-drive...

Quad Assistance: Led Press , full ROM , knees touching chest and again, 2 second pause at the bottom of the movement
-180x10
-180x10
-180x10
-180x10
-180x10

Lower Back Assistance: Weighted Back extensions with a 2 second glute squeeze
-BW+35x10
-BW+35x10
-BW+35x10
-BW+35x10
-BW+35x10

Ab Assistance: Cable Crunches with a 2 sec contraction
-80x20
-70x20
-70x20
-70x20
-70x20

Workout Notes:
Ok switching from parallel or just a bit higher than parallel squats to actually sitting down and waiting, with someone that actually knows how it looks like and how to do it to check it is actually like that...

Stack Notes:
-No bloat even on carb ups, and having a better sleep lately actually! The best thing so far is the fact that leaning effect I have in the morning if I have AB in the night.
-Recovery is better.
-Strength is rising, even if it's not reflected on my squat, the thing is I merely changed the stance and execution of the lift.
 
Great job Celly, don't worry about those squats they will improve. You're dedicated and work hard, love it
 
Great job Celly, don't worry about those squats they will improve. You're dedicated and work hard, love it

Thanks bro :D! I'll give it my best so they do improve then!
 
Day 8, 9/28​


Supps used Pre-workout:
-2 scoops TP
-2 Caps AB
-1 scoop Bulk Modern BCAAs
-EC stack
-2g COP
-6g Citrulline Malate

Squat Day:

Warm Up:
-45x10
-95x5
-115x5

Working Sets:
-135x5
-135x5
-155x3
-155x3
-175xF Failed...tried to get it and couldn't :/

Note: All sets were performed with a 2 second pause at the bottom of the whole, completely ATG and waiting for a press call...it was horrible! I completely and utterly suck for Squats ATG! I seriously need to get stronger than this, I can't get out of the whole at all! I stay stuck right before I get to the part of the Hip-drive...

Quad Assistance: Led Press , full ROM , knees touching chest and again, 2 second pause at the bottom of the movement
-180x10
-180x10
-180x10
-180x10
-180x10

Lower Back Assistance: Weighted Back extensions with a 2 second glute squeeze
-BW+35x10
-BW+35x10
-BW+35x10
-BW+35x10
-BW+35x10

Ab Assistance: Cable Crunches with a 2 sec contraction
-80x20
-70x20
-70x20
-70x20
-70x20

Workout Notes:
Ok switching from parallel or just a bit higher than parallel squats to actually sitting down and waiting, with someone that actually knows how it looks like and how to do it to check it is actually like that...

Stack Notes:
-No bloat even on carb ups, and having a better sleep lately actually! The best thing so far is the fact that leaning effect I have in the morning if I have AB in the night.
-Recovery is better.
-Strength is rising, even if it's not reflected on my squat, the thing is I merely changed the stance and execution of the lift.

Why the pause at the bottom? Even by the overly anal IPF/USAPL standards, which I hate, there's not a pause at the bottom of a squat. If power out of the hole is the issue, then cut out direct quad work and add more hamstring work.
 
Why the pause at the bottom? Even by the overly anal IPF/USAPL standards, which I hate, there's not a pause at the bottom of a squat. If power out of the hole is the issue, then cut out direct quad work and add more hamstring work.

The idea is to teach me to really explode up, as it seems that part of me is lacking from my brain and muscles :blink:...I'll start doing more hamstring work then, Good Mornings, Prone Hammy curls and Glute Ham Raises should works right? Thanks a lot for the advice Rodja! And I'll make sure to implement it!

Side note: Do you think Plyometrics would help teach me this, or strengthen my vertical plane movements?
 
The idea is to teach me to really explode up, as it seems that part of me is lacking from my brain and muscles :blink:...I'll start doing more hamstring work then, Good Mornings, Prone Hammy curls and Glute Ham Raises should works right? Thanks a lot for the advice Rodja! And I'll make sure to implement it!

Side note: Do you think Plyometrics would help teach me this, or strengthen my vertical plane movements?

Yes to GM and GHR, but no to hamstring curls. Plyos will teach you the motor pattern, but the low box squat will have a better carryover since you'll have to stay tighter and have the load on your back.
 
Celorza said:
The idea is to teach me to really explode up, as it seems that part of me is lacking from my brain and muscles :blink:...I'll start doing more hamstring work then, Good Mornings, Prone Hammy curls and Glute Ham Raises should works right? Thanks a lot for the advice Rodja! And I'll make sure to implement it!

Side note: Do you think Plyometrics would help teach me this, or strengthen my vertical plane movements?

I'm not rodja but I personally love plyo for increasing explosive power. This is one of my favorite things about the WS4SB routine. I've been doing them since I played football back in HS and don't plan to stop anytime soon.
 
Yes to GM and GHR, but no to hamstring curls. Plyos will teach you the motor pattern, but the low box squat will have a better carryover since you'll have to stay tighter and have the load on your back.

Noted and noted. I assume for the Low Box Squats, to use a control drop then so I don't slam my ass onto the box and hurt the spine haha.
 
Noted and noted. I assume for the Low Box Squats, to use a control drop then so I don't slam my ass onto the box and hurt the spine haha.

Yes, stay tight throughout the movement and try to create a "negative" angle with your foot and shin (greater than 90 degrees) to recruit more posterior chain.
 
Yes, stay tight throughout the movement and try to create a "negative" angle with your foot and shin (greater than 90 degrees) to recruit more posterior chain.

That will require more stretching, and I presume a lower box than the one in my gym. I can shop around without a problem though.
 
Nice update Cel. I'm on my phone atm but ill chime in on the squats when I get to a computer at work.
 
Cel,

Now that I'm at a keyboard I can explain myself better. Its always been my way of thinking when it comes to squats (at least in my experience) that you go through repeated phases. Phase 1 is plateau, and Phase 2 is ALL KINDS OF GAINS/Skyrocketing until you reach Phase 1 again. This has happened to me consistently with my squats. At first it was 185. Then 275. And then 315. I'd get stuck on each for the same amount of reps for like a month or two until suddenly my body just blasted right through it like it was nothing. Give the squats time. You'll barrel through plateaus like nobody's business. And with super meticulous proper form from the sound of it ;)
 
Cel,

Now that I'm at a keyboard I can explain myself better. Its always been my way of thinking when it comes to squats (at least in my experience) that you go through repeated phases. Phase 1 is plateau, and Phase 2 is ALL KINDS OF GAINS/Skyrocketing until you reach Phase 1 again. This has happened to me consistently with my squats. At first it was 185. Then 275. And then 315. I'd get stuck on each for the same amount of reps for like a month or two until suddenly my body just blasted right through it like it was nothing. Give the squats time. You'll barrel through plateaus like nobody's business. And with super meticulous proper form from the sound of it ;)

Thanks Dave :) I really appreciate your words and encouragement! I guess bro...I'll just keep at it and have patience on them!!
 
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