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var/winny...what PH to add

chil

chil

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hey guys trying to plan a var winny cycle... tyring to figure out what PH to add in the mix.... hdrol? epistane? katandrol?... or should i just cut out any PH and run var winny solo
 
im not into needles, and i dont want to run 12 weeks of testosterone..... maybe a test based ph?
 
chil said:
any suggestions on dermacrine doseage?
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Mechabol 75-100mg daily.
Dermacrine at full recommended pumps (I think it is 5-6).

BUT I'd suggest androenhance instead as a better test base. That's just me though.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Mechabol 75-100mg daily.
Dermacrine at full recommended pumps (I think it is 5-6).

BUT I'd suggest androenhance instead as a better test base. That's just me though.
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andro enhance to substitute the dermacrine ?...dayumm andro enhance is expensive, how long does the bottle last ? and would i run it into PCT
 
DNAMP said:
^^ yes run prop then for less time
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i dont think runnign test prop for 4 weeks is going to do much.... and i dont want the jab myself with needles, that freaks me out lol im using oral winnie for a reason
 
Why are you running var AND winny?

Why are adding a PH to this cycle?

What are your goals?

Do you have any experience with gear?

chil said:
hey guys trying to plan a var winny cycle... tyring to figure out what PH to add in the mix.... hdrol? epistane? katandrol?... or should i just cut out any PH and run var winny solo
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Whacked said:
Why are you running var AND winny?

Why are adding a PH to this cycle?

What are your goals?

Do you have any experience with gear?
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im running var and winny to drop body fat, and put on a couple lbs of muscle

adding a ph to solidify gains, add more muscle instead of just cutting

i ran var/winnie before i saw few lb of muscle gain but significant bf losses...ive ran hdrol and epistane and stanodrol before

my goals are 190 6% BF im 185 right now like 13% im going to bulk for another month before i run this
 
ur not going from 13-15 % bf to 6 and gaining 5 lbs man sorry to break it to u unless you havePERFECT NUTRITIONS

chil said:
im running var and winny to drop body fat, and put on a couple lbs of muscle

adding a ph to solidify gains, add more muscle instead of just cutting

i ran var/winnie before i saw few lb of muscle gain but significant bf losses...ive ran hdrol and epistane and stanodrol before

my goals are 190 6% BF im 185 right now like 13% im going to bulk for another month before i run this
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Husker89 said:
ur not going from 13-15 % bf to 6 and gaining 5 lbs man sorry to break it to u unless you havePERFECT NUTRITIONS
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My diet is on point, believe me i know it doesnt matter what you run but how you eat when you run it
 
Test Gel bam. No more need of needles and you don't have to rape your liver
 
Gerbil said:
Test Gel bam. No more need of needles and you don't have to rape your liver
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Legit test gel seems much harder to acquire than actual test.
Now....acquiring raw test powder and mixing a transdermal would be fun.
 
Just take some SD for 4 weeks, go take a hormone panel with your GP ....and while your there complain about lethargy and low sex drive. results will be back within the week. They'll give you some test gel :D and you can just use it on cycle and stock it up rather than using it daily for TRT (and NO I did NOT do this, I am old and have low test from being elderly or abuse of HPTA or both!)
 
i have no idea where to get test gel....but i would grab some if i could believe me.....
Gerbil said:
Test Gel bam. No more need of needles and you don't have to rape your liver
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WARBIRDWS6 said:
Just take some SD for 4 weeks, go take a hormone panel with your GP ....and while your there complain about lethargy and low sex drive. results will be back within the week. They'll give you some test gel :D and you can just use it on cycle and stock it up rather than using it daily for TRT (and NO I did NOT do this, I am old and have low test from being elderly or abuse of HPTA or both!)
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that sounds like it would work
 
I would not suggest running TRT since you are probably young.....but there is nothing wrong with finagling some androgel from the doctor by using this scheme. Gel is a major PITA for daily application I'll tell you....but for 8-12 week cycles it should work great.
 
It was the VAR that stripped your body fat
You'd get better/cleaner/lesss-bs results with JUST Var

chil said:
im running var and winny to drop body fat, and put on a couple lbs of muscle

adding a ph to solidify gains, add more muscle instead of just cutting

i ran var/winnie before i saw few lb of muscle gain but significant bf losses...ive ran hdrol and epistane and stanodrol before

my goals are 190 6% BF im 185 right now like 13% im going to bulk for another month before i run this
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Whacked said:
It was the VAR that stripped your body fat
You'd get better/cleaner/lesss-bs results with JUST Var
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really i always thought it was the winny that did it lol i'll prob just run var then 50 mg's for 6 weeks does that sound legit...run some torem for pct and take all my cycle supports
 
chil said:
really i always thought it was the winny that did it lol i'll prob just run var then 50 mg's for 6 weeks does that sound legit...run some torem for pct and take all my cycle supports
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I would do Var with test, get the gel or cream. If you can get Var&Winny I'm sure you can get test gel&cream also. I think cream is better.

Good luck!
 
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