DC Training for Bulk / Natural Gains.

Distilled Water said:
Someone mentioned later raises a bit back, I would will hit a set of 10 immediately after my shoulder press then stretch. didn't really make a difference
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that was me.

some days I completely cut out pressing and rest paused lateral raises, and my shoulders grew more than ever. I know I deviated, but I like to experiment.
my shoulders felt better than ever as well.

I did rear delt work like flyes, band pull aparts, high seated rows as well
 
carpee said:
that was me.

some days I completely cut out pressing and rest paused lateral raises, and my shoulders grew more than ever. I know I deviated, but I like to experiment.
my shoulders felt better than ever as well.

I did rear delt work like flyes, band pull aparts, high seated rows as well
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Honestly, I thought about trying laterals as rest pause but I thought it'd hurt my shoulders.

I don't know if that'd be "deviating" it's a total shoulder movement, just not a compound one. Your shoulders didn't get messed up? Maybe I'll try that as I transition from post contest when my joints are still a little weak and can't handle heavy weight just yet.
 
Distilled Water said:
Honestly, I thought about trying laterals as rest pause but I thought it'd hurt my shoulders.

I don't know if that'd be "deviating" it's a total shoulder movement, just not a compound one. Your shoulders didn't get messed up? Maybe I'll try that as I transition from post contest when my joints are still a little weak and can't handle heavy weight just yet.
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nope they feel awesome. I cut out pressing for like 6-8 weeks actually and did laterals and every once in a while threw heavy DB uprights like Jim Cordova has on simply shredded.

felt great
 
You can rest pause these, just make the rep range very high like 20 reps for the first set to failure.
 
carpee said:
nope they feel awesome. I cut out pressing for like 6-8 weeks actually and did laterals and every once in a while threw heavy DB uprights like Jim Cordova has on simply shredded.

felt great
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I like these a lot!!
 
carpee said:
nope they feel awesome. I cut out pressing for like 6-8 weeks actually and did laterals and every once in a while threw heavy DB uprights like Jim Cordova has on simply shredded.

felt great
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Well, good to know.

I tried up right rows and they destroyed my shoulders with the RP sets
 
I can only do the the DB upright rows like said above.
 
Here is a video of his shoulder routine. The rows are midway thru. I crack up everytime I listen to this guy talk.

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I am all natural an have never taken anything. I did doggcrapp twice this year and in two months I haven't made such amazing gains since when I first started. It was my first time being consistent with deadlifts and I did amazing with it. I went from 190 to 200 in two months and I looked like I was 225. I am also an ectamorph so I can vouch for the naturally skinny guys. My dead lift went from 225-8 reps to 365 for 6-7 reps. My bench from 195-8 to 255-6 and all other lifts went up like crazy. I have never looked so big and have never been so strong. But let me say this and don't take it likely, you have to eat like a mad man and need a consistent spotter if you want to do well with this program. Message me for more details if you like, hope this helps :)
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Here is a video of his shoulder routine. The rows are midway thru. I crack up everytime I listen to this guy talk.

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Jesus this guy is a focking beast, I wonder if you could implement some light rotator cuff work into DC.. What he said about it makes alot of sense, and the dudes shoulders are insane.
 
akoli said:
I am all natural an have never taken anything. I did doggcrapp twice this year and in two months I haven't made such amazing gains since when I first started. It was my first time being consistent with deadlifts and I did amazing with it. I went from 190 to 200 in two months and I looked like I was 225. I am also an ectamorph so I can vouch for the naturally skinny guys. My dead lift went from 225-8 reps to 365 for 6-7 reps. My bench from 195-8 to 255-6 and all other lifts went up like crazy. I have never looked so big and have never been so strong. But let me say this and don't take it likely, you have to eat like a mad man and need a consistent spotter if you want to do well with this program. Message me for more details if you like, hope this helps :)
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Yeah this seems to be the general consensus, I am going to kill this sht I promise, this is why I started all my research way ahead of changing routines. Thanks for your input!

How was your fat gain with DC approach verse a different approach? Did you implement the treadmill walking on your off days?
 
AZMIDLYF said:
You can rest pause these, just make the rep range very high like 20 reps for the first set to failure.
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I liked 12-6-3 range with slowwww negatives
shoulders have responded well
 
I never did much cardio, just here and there. I really don't need it, losing weight and keeping my six pack was never a problem for me, my fat gain was minimal at best
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Here is a video of his shoulder routine. The rows are midway thru. I crack up everytime I listen to this guy talk.

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hahha he has an interesting way of speaking
 
masonmarin18 said:
Jesus this guy is a focking beast, I wonder if you could implement some light rotator cuff work into DC.. What he said about it makes alot of sense, and the dudes shoulders are insane.
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You can do that. You could either do it at the beginning or end of a workout, or you could go ahead and do it on off days.
 
Torobestia said:
You can do that. You could either do it at the beginning or end of a workout, or you could go ahead and do it on off days.
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Yeah like maybe right before the shoulder stretches?
 
I always warm up my shoulders with rotator work before lifting.
 
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