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Aromasin instead of Nolva?

Bubbagump

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Do I understand correctly that I can use Aromasin instead of Nolva or Clomid?

I had decided to use Nolva but it seems the sides from Aromasin are alot less?
 
You can use Aromasin as your PCT, but I would not recommend it, after doing further research I found that Aromasin has been linked to cardio vascular health, and may not be quite as healthy on the lipid profile as say TOrem is. Aromasin also for not stimulate LH like Torem does because it does not enhance estrogen in the liver.
 
Bubbagump said:
Do I understand correctly that I can use Aromasin instead of Nolva or Clomid?

I had decided to use Nolva but it seems the sides from Aromasin are alot less?
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for pct you use either clomid or nolva. you can use armomasin WITH nolva or clomid.

Airborne42 said:
Aromasin is not a serm bros
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listen to this guy

Lacrossedude6 said:
You can use Aromasin as your PCT, but I would not recommend it, after doing further research I found that Aromasin has been linked to cardio vascular health, and may not be quite as healthy on the lipid profile as say TOrem is. Aromasin also for not stimulate LH like Torem does because it does not enhance estrogen in the liver.
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Torem is ok in place of clomid but nolva trumps all.

since you guys seem confused I'm going to simplify this as much as possible. SERMS (nolva, clo, torem, raloxofiene and fulvestrant) block estrogen from binding to receptors. Nolva, Clomid, and Torem all help restart fsh and lh production. the last two i'm still learning about unfortunately so i cant comment much on those. AI's (Aromasin, Adex, Lenatron, letrozole, etc etc) inhibit e2 production by blocking the enzyme responsible for synthesizing estrogens.

I think every good pct should include nolva and aromasin. the nolva will keep you from growing tits and kickstart your hpta into producing your on testosterone again and the aromasin will keep you from growing tits when you discontinue nolva use. throw some hcg and igf1 in there and you've got a solid post cycle.

OP, 5'7" 146 dictates the fact you need to worry more about eating than post cycle therapy. you should work on gaining a little mass first broham. not trying to be a dick head or demeaning, but if you cant gain natty you wont keep it un naturally.
 
superbeast668 said:
for pct you use either clomid or nolva. you can use armomasin WITH nolva or clomid.

listen to this guy

Torem is ok in place of clomid but nolva trumps all.

since you guys seem confused I'm going to simplify this as much as possible. SERMS (nolva, clo, torem, raloxofiene and fulvestrant) block estrogen from binding to receptors. Nolva, Clomid, and Torem all help restart fsh and lh production. the last two i'm still learning about unfortunately so i cant comment much on those. AI's (Aromasin, Adex, Lenatron, letrozole, etc etc) inhibit e2 production by blocking the enzyme responsible for synthesizing estrogens.

I think every good pct should include nolva and aromasin. the nolva will keep you from growing tits and kickstart your hpta into producing your on testosterone again and the aromasin will keep you from growing tits when you discontinue nolva use. throw some hcg and igf1 in there and you've got a solid post cycle.

OP, 5'7" 146 dictates the fact you need to worry more about eating than post cycle therapy. you should work on gaining a little mass first broham. not trying to be a dick head or demeaning, but if you cant gain natty you wont keep it un naturally.
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I agree with everything you said super beast from top to bottom. Indeed, PCt is a complicated process for planning, but the general guidelines remain. (not necessarily in order)
1) SERM
2) Liver, Support Supps
3) AI
4) HCG

One thing I will add is the debate for the best SERM after all these years marches on. I think Nolva, Clomid, and Torem are great options. I've ran Nolva and recovered well, and I've ran Clomid and recovered even quicker but the emotional effects are something to put into consideration with Clomid, I felt like a women on it. For my next cycle I plan on running Torem, as From people's experiences and my research it is a SERM that blocks estrogen related side effects just as well as Nolva, but it will also kickstart your FSH, LH, and Hypothalamic Pituitary Teaticular Axis like Climid does( which the general consensus is that Clomid does this a bit better than Nolva). and Torem also does not carry the emotional side effects like Clomid does. IMO Torem is superior to Nolva and Clomid but any 3 will work great with proper dosing and A combination of an AI, and HCG.
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You want to use aromasin + serm for optimal results with your pct.
I like torem for my serm, but I only discovered that after trying nolvadex, clomid, and finally torem. With torem I bounced back very fast. only thing you can really do is try each till you find the one our body reacts best too.
 
zeroshens said:
You want to use aromasin + serm for optimal results with your pct.
I like torem for my serm, but I only discovered that after trying nolvadex, clomid, and finally torem. With torem I bounced back very fast. only thing you can really do is try each till you find the one our body reacts best too.
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Did you run Aromasin during your Torem or did you run it after running Torem
 
I use aromasin everyday on cycle, as well as through my pct. my e levels are little high anyways so it helps to control it. I find that when I combine the two I can use a much lower dose with the serm. I use torem @ 60mg for 40 days (whole bottle lol). In the past I've used tamoxifen at 40mg for he first two weeks but my E was so low I felt terrible. If I had to use tamoxifen again I'd go with a blast at the start @ 40mg then back to a steady 20mg till the battle for my sanity is won.

Also, I go about two weeks longer on the aromasin when the serm is done. I've found for me it prevents gyno rebound and I like how veiny I get with all the water out hahaha
 
zeroshens said:
I use aromasin everyday on cycle, as well as through my pct. my e levels are little high anyways so it helps to control it. I find that when I combine the two I can use a much lower dose with the serm. I use torem @ 60mg for 40 days (whole bottle lol). In the past I've used tamoxifen at 40mg for he first two weeks but my E was so low I felt terrible. If I had to use tamoxifen again I'd go with a blast at the start @ 40mg then back to a steady 20mg till the battle for my sanity is won.

Also, I go about two weeks longer on the aromasin when the serm is done. I've found for me it prevents gyno rebound and I like how veiny I get with all the water out hahaha
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Thanks for the input my man, so do you think Aromasin will harden you up equally to something like Epistane??? Or what??
 
I find that aromasin prevents any bloat, even when it is the only drug I'm on. I find that my mood is better, and my body doesn't hold on to water very much - becomes even easier to sweat.

Definitely does not harden you up.
 
zeroshens said:
I find that aromasin prevents any bloat, even when it is the only drug I'm on. I find that my mood is better, and my body doesn't hold on to water very much - becomes even easier to sweat.

Definitely does not harden you up.
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Thanks for the reply my man
 
I've seen a few references to HCG being used during PCT. Do not do that! It is suppressive and will hinder your recovery. Use ONLY on cycle to ease the transition to PCT. It's keeps the testes working so your body doesn't have as much catching up to do when you begin PCT.
 
Bubbagump said:
Do I understand correctly that I can use Aromasin instead of Nolva or Clomid?

I had decided to use Nolva but it seems the sides from Aromasin are alot less?
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This is just from my PERSONAL opinion here -- I have always opted for Exemestane over a typical SERM like tamox or Clo due to the way they make me feel and how they act on my liver and even vision. (freaks me out)

I have seen good blood results from exemestane in regard to lipids and lowering e2 while boosting testosterone -- This demonstrated lipids anbd igf-1 levels were unaffected from exemestanes usage -- Invalid Link Removed

Tamox, adex etc.... will hinder igf-1 --- I combine exemestane with sustain alpha gel and sodium d-aspartate with various peptides and recommend it to others.

-Matt
 
Cool Matt.
So do you run a longer pct on your mix vs. SERM?
any noteworthy differences besides the usual sides or lack of?
 
Bubbagump said:
Cool Matt.
So do you run a longer pct on your mix vs. SERM?
any noteworthy differences besides the usual sides or lack of?
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I would run it for 6 weeks or so...

I see no hard in doing so, and the more advanced the user (competitor wishing to minimize lost gains and down time)

I highly recommend using all you can to retain muscle after cycling ---because "what goes up, must come down" sadly in the world of physique enhancement using pharmacology.

-Matt
 
Bubbagump said:
Cool Matt.
So do you run a longer pct on your mix vs. SERM?
any noteworthy differences besides the usual sides or lack of?
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Also you will feel 10 x's better on the mix I recommend over any SERM. You will feel sometimes BETTER on the products I suggest as user feedback has given such comments.

Nothing worse than feeling depressed and lifeless post cycle...

-Matt
 
Thixotrope said:
I've seen a few references to HCG being used during PCT. Do not do that! It is suppressive and will hinder your recovery. Use ONLY on cycle to ease the transition to PCT. It's keeps the testes working so your body doesn't have as much catching up to do when you begin PCT.
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Does that mean you wont need a SERM since HCG has kept test working and you can use only aromasin as pct?
 
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