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P-mag PCT

wujustyle

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Thinking of running P-mag as my first cycle.

Some info: 180pounds 21 years old.

Cycle:
2 bottles CEL P-mag 50/75/75/75/75/75 comes out to 119 pills
Thinking of buying CEL Cycle Assist. Any ideas how to dose this? I hear I should preload at least a week beforehand, and I should take it at least 4 hours apart from any P-mag doses.

PCT:
I have Testabolan V2 and Reversitol V2 and heard from some accounts that it is enough for P-mag. However I also found a source for tamoxifen, clomid and torem, in pills and liquid form. I might buy one to keep on hand, or I might buy a SERM and stack it with T V2 and R V2. Any ideas?

I also see a lot of people using Erase and when I looked it up it seems like an AI, but I already have Reversitol V2 as an AI so I am assuming I do not need Erase?

Would I also need a PCT assist for a PH like P-mag? Or should I save it for something stronger?
 
Looks good besides the fact your questioning a serm... GET ONE! you will not need erase...
 
Airborne42 said:
Looks good besides the fact your questioning a serm... GET ONE! you will not need erase...
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Even if you chose not to use a serm its still highly suggested to keep on hand. Theres a log of testo and reverse v2 lurking in the depths as someones full pct with blood work. I dont condone going that way since theres alot more successful accounts of nolva clomid and torem.
If you encounter any gyno issues with out a serm here comes the man boobs. Good luck getting rid of them.

Whats your training and supplementation history and goals for this cycle? 21 seems a little young to start, most males are still making tons of test at that age and you dont want to hurt the hpta and the rest of your endocrine system.
 
superbeast668 said:
Even if you chose not to use a serm its still highly suggested to keep on hand. Theres a log of testo and reverse v2 lurking in the depths as someones full pct with blood work. I dont condone going that way since theres alot more successful accounts of nolva clomid and torem.
If you encounter any gyno issues with out a serm here comes the man boobs. Good luck getting rid of them.

Whats your training and supplementation history and goals for this cycle? 21 seems a little young to start, most males are still making tons of test at that age and you dont want to hurt the hpta and the rest of your endocrine system.
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superbeast668 said:
Even if you chose not to use a serm its still highly suggested to keep on hand. Theres a log of testo and reverse v2 lurking in the depths as someones full pct with blood work. I dont condone going that way since theres alot more successful accounts of nolva clomid and torem.
If you encounter any gyno issues with out a serm here comes the man boobs. Good luck getting rid of them.

Whats your training and supplementation history and goals for this cycle? 21 seems a little young to start, most males are still making tons of test at that age and you dont want to hurt the hpta and the rest of your endocrine system.
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Yeah I saw that log. I'll order some torem then since I hear its as effective as clomid but has less sides. How should I dose it? 60/60/30/30 along with Tv2 and Rv2?

Training history 3 years, I never used supplements outside of whey and my goals are to go up 5-10 pounds of mostly lean muscle with some strength gain. Most p-mag logs seem to say they gain around 5-15 pounds so I figure this is perfect.

What age would be good to start then? When my natural test levels start dropping hard?
 
wujustyle said:
Yeah I saw that log. I'll order some torem then since I hear its as effective as clomid but has less sides. How should I dose it? 60/60/30/30 along with Tv2 and Rv2?

Training history 3 years, I never used supplements outside of whey and my goals are to go up 5-10 pounds of mostly lean muscle with some strength gain. Most p-mag logs seem to say they gain around 5-15 pounds so I figure this is perfect.

What age would be good to start then? When my natural test levels start dropping hard?
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Honestly bro, youre correct to an extent on when to start. My natural levels dropped around 25. Didnt use till 26.

Usually a guidline for starting gear is when youve stopped growing naturally. When i say naturally i mean exhausted all of the basic supps like creatine, daa, arganine etc etc. Pros dont skip straight to tren growth slin and seo's. They start out with the basics too.

What you do is up to you, BUT I'd advise getting some creatine mono and daa. You'll gain 10 lbs off of it. Maybe more. Especially if youve only used whey. Your liver, kidneys and balls will thank you for it too since those are far less harsh than ANY designer drug or pro hormone on the market.

Save the pmag for another year or two, eat big and train big.
 
superbeast668 said:
Honestly bro, youre correct to an extent on when to start. My natural levels dropped around 25. Didnt use till 26.

Usually a guidline for starting gear is when youve stopped growing naturally. When i say naturally i mean exhausted all of the basic supps like creatine, daa, arganine etc etc. Pros dont skip straight to tren growth slin and seo's. They start out with the basics too.

What you do is up to you, BUT I'd advise getting some creatine mono and daa. You'll gain 10 lbs off of it. Maybe more. Especially if youve only used whey. Your liver, kidneys and balls will thank you for it too since those are far less harsh than ANY designer drug or pro hormone on the market.

Save the pmag for another year or two, eat big and train big.
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D- Aspartic Acid? I've heard of it before and from reading it seems to be a natural test booster (some logs saying 40%). Do you know any good brands? I might put aside p-mag for a while then.
 
wujustyle said:
D- Aspartic Acid? I've heard of it before and from reading it seems to be a natural test booster (some logs saying 40%). Do you know any good brands? I might put aside p-mag for a while then.
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Dpol by Purus Labs is my favorite... 3 tabs a day... 60 mins pwo. Amazing gains and enhanced with Nitrates for the biggest long lasting pump you will have!
 
wujustyle said:
D- Aspartic Acid? I've heard of it before and from reading it seems to be a natural test booster (some logs saying 40%). Do you know any good brands? I might put aside p-mag for a while then.
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Glad to hear that. Its a smart decision. Gotta crawl before you run.

Yes daa is d aspartic acid. Its probably the only legit t booster out there. Dpol as airborne said rocks. I take it pre work out with muscle marinade and 5g of bulk arganine. Post i take 5g arganine and 5g bulk creatine monohydrate. Its a nice natural little stack that should help you muscle up a bit.
 
superbeast668 said:
Glad to hear that. Its a smart decision. Gotta crawl before you run.

Yes daa is d aspartic acid. Its probably the only legit t booster out there. Dpol as airborne said rocks. I take it pre work out with muscle marinade and 5g of bulk arganine. Post i take 5g arganine and 5g bulk creatine monohydrate. Its a nice natural little stack that should help you muscle up a bit.
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Did u get your info in yet?
Sick stack bro!
 
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