How did you "own" me? I closed the thread because it was a **** fest between you and everyone else, and it was disruptive. You didn't own ****. Don't play hardball on the boards. Notice how AM passed you around like a freshman cheerleader just like the primordial board did? Maybe now you should start reconsidering this.
Oh by the way, since you threatened to sue in the PM you sent me (seriously guys, seriously), I highly suggest you reconsider. Especially since your cycle, and the part that actually caused your liver stress, is ****ING ILLEGAL DUMB ASS.
I made you look like a fool. Your friend coolacize got busted lying then you immediately deleted the thread and banned me. It shows how powerless you were. Then you get a bunch of your guys that most likely work in the company to come and post in here calling me a idiot. You cant even provide with simple bloodwork that was done in beta testing. YOU HAVE NO PROOF THAT YOUR PRODUCT IS NON LIVER TOXIC.My blood test clearly shows i have liver disfuction.I wasn't argueing-a bunch of idiots that worship you kept attacking me. I came in there warn people of combining orals. A few people were actually interested in that thread. Of course you have your typical juicing ****tards(coolacize) that think the body is immune to steroids and it'll never cause side effects.
well he's red now, not because I care, but just because he thinks he knows something about androgens.
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on another note, how in the hell do you get banned from pp's forum, you must gotta do some dumb shiit. Even after we've had our disagreements, I'm not banned, and all those pp guys seem to be pretty laid back and friendly for the most part.
thats prob why I didn't fit in well there, Im more of a d*ck.
Oh wow. Im red. This effects me in real life so bad!!! Im gonna go cry. I really care do care. It hurts my feelings..
Hmmm let's see, my first cycle ever I ran helladrol and AH with complete success. Liver is fine too...and although I was an amature in cycling I amfar from an amature in knowledge.
Now, I am running a test e cycle with let's see...
1)anavar
2)androlean
3)androdrive
Making nothing but amazing gains.
Also, how could you say the PP reps just know business, infact they were trying to tell me not to cycle yet because I wasn't ready...
I was fine for at least 3-4 cycles. After that my liver just couldnt handle it. It can happen to anyone. Of course you are making gains.You are taking steroids.
If anyone were to check the thread, I started very nicely. Wished him the best with his doctor and health. Told him I disagreed, but left it at that. The thread turned into 10 pages of arguing, and I had enough. Closed the thread and told him that he was not to restart the discussion, or I would ban him. Within 1 minute of closing the thread, he decides to be a smart ass and open a second. I wasn't bluffing.
Even as much as I would much rather never see him back at the board, it is just a 7 day'r.
Thank you for the kind words, and happy your cycle has been a success.
You closed the thread because you failed to provide me with information that your products are non-liver toxic. I was clearly winning the arguement. It doesnt help that you bring your phaggy PP co-workers here on the boards to side and agree with you. They were at least 2-5 people that was just interested in my case.
Var, Lean and Drive? *GASP* Are you trying to kill yourself? LOL Actually, that sounds like a nice cycle - good luck with it!
Dont be stupid. DOnt listen to this guy. He is a ****ing idiot and has no idea how to cycle. Look at his cycle historyNEVER RUN ORALS ALONE. You will lose most your gains post cycle..Always use a good amount of test running cycles. Think about this.. You are taking steroids. Why would you not want to do it the right way?
Definitely been considering Andro series but I really don't have the money for a proper cycle of it. I'm low budget so I'll be sticking to my raw SD for my first real cycle.
Not a good idea.Speaking from experience.. Stay away from SD.
Haha I've run superdrol, hdrol, epi, ultra, and a few non methyls. I'm surprised my liver didn't try to break out of my body after 4 weeks on SD. I've taken AH and my bloods were nothing close to any of those that I mentioned
So did I and nothing happened. I thought nothing would ever happen.But eventually stacking orals with PP products made my liver give out. It can happen to anyone. Everyone is different. One might not get any side-effects or liver damage at all.
Weight loss and excessive thirst and hunger? Diabetes bro.
Liver damage usually manifests itself as absolutely no hunger.
Also how have you taken tren but not know what UGL is? Tren isn't pharmaceutical
Nope not diabetes..Got tested for it.My liver was damaged. I wasn't digesting food at all..Eventhough I was eating like crazy. I actually lost weight. Im slowly starting to gain it back.
OP you're just ignorant. HTS is legit. OP you have the balls to say don't stack two orals and use a test base... do you know anything about injectables or did you just see that somewhere? You messed up, your fault. They didn't force the stack down your throat. Better get all your real "gear" next time from an "UL" so you have no one else to blame. Like you said test base bra keeps you vascular ESPECIALLY with orals at the end. Women like vascular men, and you gotta pump that blood.
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Yes I know what injectables are. I know how my body reacts to certain chemicals. When I suggested using injectables I meant to say use test only. From my experience I had the least sides and most gains from using test alone.
Yeah woman like vascular men. But they dont like the super-vascular and veiny looks like bodybuilders have. This is just a stupid self image problem most of us have.Ive always been naturally lean,I never had this problem. I have abs even when im bulking..Vascularity comes down to genetics and diet. So using orals to bring out our vascularity is unnecessary unless you plan on competing. Your vascularity is not going to get you ***** on the beach by walking with your shirt off. It doesnt matter how vascular you are-if your face is ugly theres nothing you can do about it. I doubt %99.9 of you will ever get your IFBB card,so save some money and stay away from orals..Your liver will love you for it.
Primordial Performance is the perfect marketing company for newbie recreational gym rats. They produce products like andro "lean,hard,mass" Which is all bull****. No one should be taking oral steroids by itself. Most of the guys taking these products should not even be taking steroids to begin with-at least thats what I think after reading most of the logs on pp forums.Most seem out of shape,doesnt even look like they lift or have proper nutrition.
Im not surprised you guys are flaming me. Most of you think you are invisible and nothing will happen to you. I was once like this. I followed typical cycle protocols .I never went overboard. I thought I could use steroids in a safe manner.But there is no safe manner. You may not have any side effects now . If people continue to use toxic orals like epi,super,dbol,var,pp products and other desiger steroids- I guarantee you that you will go through problems with your body sometime in your life.
oh and the doc recommends some stem cell therapy to bring my liver back to health...
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LMAO
