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First AAS Cycle Log (Test E / Test Prop Kicker)

Stay away from finesteride, I used it on cycle and noticed my nipples got way sensitive, but once I dropped it they were fine...I think I read somewhere that it raises estrogen, but don't quote me on it... Just buzz cut ur head
 
Yeah...I'm reading a lot of **** that I don't like about it.

To be honest I think I'm being paranoid. You can't tell by looking at all, its just "feels" thinner to me, haha. Nobody notices it but me, and I even am not real sure. I'm lucky I was born with thick hair. For academic purposes I'll keep you all posted as to what happens and I'll post pics and whatnot...but to be honest, I'm not going to lose any sleep either way.
 
Oh, and did I mention I feel like Jesus? haha
 
Its going f#king awesome!! I f#king killed it today! I just keep getting stronger and stronger every f#king workout. The only thing I forgot to research is what the f^ck I am supposed to do when I run out of room on the bar for more weights! haha

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That is beast status right there, I don't think I ever got much past 4 plates on that machine. I take it you are eating for size on this cycle? If so I can see how you are getting crazy strong, it is opposite of me, size is there and fat needs to go so not so much food, it sucks.
 
Im still getting bigger and stronger every damn day! The hornyness is really too much lol im already a horn dog and now im a ****ing walking hard on i cant hardly concentrate or get anything done lol im going to have to start taking my girl to work with me and hiding her under the desk haha

Yep, I know all about this, I am wanting it 2-3 times a day which is ridiculous. My girl yells at me for hitting on everything that walk and has a vag, I just tell her to put out, LOL!
 
Yep, I know all about this, I am wanting it 2-3 times a day which is ridiculous. My girl yells at me for hitting on everything that walk and has a vag, I just tell her to put out, LOL!



Ahahahahahaha!! That is hilarious lmao!
 
That is beast status right there, I don't think I ever got much past 4 plates on that machine. I take it you are eating for size on this cycle? If so I can see how you are getting crazy strong, it is opposite of me, size is there and fat needs to go so not so much food, it sucks.


Haha thanks bro! Yeah I am trying to eat to gain. I need to shed some fat too but my plan is to keep eating to bulk for three more weeks and then spend the last three weeks on cycle trying to clean it up a bit.



Finally got myself a bit of bacne haha, damnit. Used to have that problem when I was young and a combination of tanning and a couple products from walmart (clearasil, etc.) always took care of it, so I'm going to tan and make a trip to the store to get that started.
 
I ordered some nizoral shampoo and some liquid topical spiro to hopefully put the breaks on the shedding. Shiz is no bueno! Worth it, but no bueno.

I have a very thick head of hair compared to most guys though, so I doubt this is really going to become an issue.



I have already begun collecting my ancillaries / PCT drugs and stuff for my next cycle in the fall. I am going to run Test E for 12 or 16 weeks with a six week test prop / tren / winny kicker. 100 mg test prop, 50 mg tren, 50 mg winny EOD for six weeks.

FYI bro's I bought this book called "Anabolics" by William Llewellyn. It is an absolutely MUST HAVE. I bought the electronic / kindle version on amazon for my phone because the book version was $65.00! The kindle version was only ten.

Have any of you heard of a liver detoxification supplement called Liver Stabil, or Liv-52, or Essentiale Forte? The book recommends taking one of those if you run winny.


My next cycle is probably going to look like this:

Weeks 1-6: Test E 600mg per week, Test Prop 100mg / Tren 50 mg / Winny 50 mg EOD
Weeks 7-16: Test E 300mg E3D
Weeks 8-12: ECA
Weeks 12-16: Clenbuterol + Keto

Ancillaries:
Weeks 1-6: Prami
Weeks 1-16: Arimidex
Weeks 14-18: Nolvadex
Weeks 18-20: Clomid

I've already got most of that **** on hand already for my next cycle haha. Including the prop / tren / winny pre-mix. I know a lot of guys are not fan of pre-mix (manbeast is probably going to chew me out haha). I'm DAMN tempted to run the pre-mix for 4-6 weeks depending on how I tolerate it and then extend my Test E from 12 weeks to 14 weeks so I won't crash so hard ending my run with the tren / winny / test.

I almost didn't post about that idea because I am sure I will probably get reamed for running such a hard first cycle. Its always been one of my dreams to be a ****ing beast and I'll do whatever it takes. If I start to get any whacked out sides I could just back off the tren / winny. Both have a real short half-life from what I understand which makes it a bit easier to bail if you find out your body doesn't like it.


I'll let you guys know what I decide to do. I'm not posting progress pics because when I am completely through I want to post a before and after pic. It might also be interested to take a third pic right at the end of my four month PCT / time off, before I start my next cycle, and compare that to where I am at at the end of this one, to see how well I did PCT and how much of these gains I actually keep.
 
Other then the light shedding the worst side effect so far would most definitely be the hornyness. Haha being away from my wife at work all day long is absolute f*cking torture lol. Maybe if I add in the tren and winny the constant random boners will calm the f*ck down a bit haha.
 
That is beast status right there, I don't think I ever got much past 4 plates on that machine. I take it you are eating for size on this cycle? If so I can see how you are getting crazy strong, it is opposite of me, size is there and fat needs to go so not so much food, it sucks.


What is really pimp about this is that I was doing only 3 plates and a 25 on each side before my cycle. Beef f^cking cake! haha

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The good news is your killing it, the bad news is now your like the rest of us...an addict...lol... But At least this addiction doesn't cause us to sell our wives and children for a fix!!
 
The good news is your killing it, the bad news is now your like the rest of us...an addict...lol... But At least this addiction doesn't cause us to sell our wives and children for a fix!!


haha, "I'm not obsessed! I'm dedicated!" lol



hell I quit smoking and drinking so I could start this cycle. I'd rather be a meathead then a smoker and an alcoholic any day of the week!
 
They way I look at it, if you die healthy, you didn't have any fun or do anything in life worth remembering...lol...
 
If I decide to run with this tren / winny for six weeks, I'm going to have to extend my cycle from 12 to at least 14 weeks so that I have some time before PCT. I keep reading that running tren right before PCT will **** you up good and make PCT suck. Manbeast told me the same thing.

So, the million dollar question, is to I extend my cycle from 12 to 14-16 weeks, reduce my test E from 600 a week to 300 and add the Test prop 100 / tren 50 / winny 50 EOD for six weeks, and then run Test E for at least two weeks after my last tren shot?

Right now I am in week seven. Could add the prop / tren / winny until end of week 12, then run test E for 2-4 more weeks before starting PCT.

Decisions, decisions.
 
Dude, you don't have hcg. Keep it at test only and recover... Get hcg then throw in the kitchen sink... Week 7 of test means you have a good 5 weeks of fun left if a 12 weeker and even longer if you use prop the two weeks inbetween pct...
 
pillsRgood said:
Dude, you don't have hcg. Keep it at test only and recover... Get hcg then throw in the kitchen sink... Week 7 of test means you have a good 5 weeks of fun left if a 12 weeker and even longer if you use prop the two weeks inbetween pct...

Agreed. No hcg=no scroates after 19nor
 
$hit, lol. You guys and your logic...I'll think it over a bit more I have a few more days before I have to decide. At least I've got most of my stuff for my next cycle. I guessing I should probably throw some HCG into too. I swear that crap is hard to find.
 
$hit, lol. You guys and your logic...I'll think it over a bit more I have a few more days before I have to decide. At least I've got most of my stuff for my next cycle. I guessing I should probably throw some HCG into too. I swear that crap is hard to find.

better safe than not having testicles bro.

could always intentionally shut your self down and get some from the dr... my mind says thats a worse idea though.
 
If I can manage to get ahold of some HCG, this might be doable.

I've been seeing a lot of guys running 16 week cycles for their first cycle around the internet. I'm not even that shut down the AI really seems to be helping. I mean my nuts are smaller without a doubt but not that much.
 
To be honest, I'm more worried about winny on the liver then I am shutdown, at this point.

I guess if I do this I am going to have to shell out for some HCG and figure out what liver detoxification supp / drug to get
 
IF I can get Essentiale forte N, LIV-52, Liver Stabil, and HCG, I might go for it. I'm not gunna lie.
 
You crack me up... It's like a battle with your good side and bad side all unfolding in this thread... I love it!
 
IF I can get Essentiale forte N, LIV-52, Liver Stabil, and HCG, I might go for it. I'm not gunna lie.

i would too if i had the hcg. waiting on word from my guy about getting the tren a test e and ancilliaries and it's going to get interesting pretty soon. might even toss a bottle and a half of mechabol and a few weeks of sd ontop of it since i've got it on hand.
 
You crack me up... It's like a battle with your good side and bad side all unfolding in this thread... I love it!


Hahaha, welcome to the dark side right. I am your father trenbolone! Join me, come to the dark side! haha
 
i would too if i had the hcg. waiting on word from my guy about getting the tren a test e and ancilliaries and it's going to get interesting pretty soon. might even toss a bottle and a half of mechabol and a few weeks of sd ontop of it since i've got it on hand.


Haha f*ckin KILL IT bro!
 
Updates?...You add in the tren and die on us lol...
 
Updates?...You add in the tren and die on us lol...


hahahahaha no man, I'm still tickin, lol.


I went ahead and decided to be disciplined and save the tren / winny for next cycle. If all goes according to plan I am going to start my next cycle mid-september.

I went ahead and made week ten my last Test E shot. My gains basically halted around week eight, and I gained enough strength fast enough that it was putting some strain on my body. Started getting a twinge in my left pec and a really strange type of light muscle pull in my quad. Basically won't do me any good to not be able to go to the gym because I'm injured.

Cycle went well. I just took my last Test E shot on Wednesday. I started Nolva that day. Two weeks from that day I will drop my arimidex and start clomid for PCT. The Nolva will be dropped two weeks into clomid and then I will keep running clomid for 3 more weeks.

The reason why I am overlapping the nolva / clomid that way is because with the long ester of Test E the clomid / PCT shouldn't begin until two weeks after your last shot. But during that time I still want to be taking a SERM. My understanding is that nolva is a bit better then clomid at preventing estrogen related side-effects such as gyno, while clomid is a bit better at getting the boys back online and running at capacity.

No sides to speak of so far. Everything has been pretty solid. I think if I was sleeping better and drinking less (yes I know bad thing to do) I would have had more gains, but I did do pretty well.

Can't wait for my next cycle. It looks like I might be able to get my paws on some HCG for that one. I've got all the gear I need to run the next cycle except I will have to get some more nolva and clomid and possibly arimidex. I'm also going to have EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING else dialed in when I run that cycle lifestyle, sleeping, and diet wise.



I'm thinking about experimenting with shorter cycles in the future, like 6-8 weeks. That is the period where I made the most gains, by far. And the sides didn't really start to pop up until after about week eight (very light shedding, bacne, etc.). I thought my nipples looked slightly puffy for a day or two there but my wife didn't think they looked different it might have been in my head. I've been bulking the whole time too and need to clean some damn fat off after PCT. That might have been what I thought were hints of gyno.


All in all, it was a good experience. Hopefully PCT won't be too bad. It seems like the AI did a pretty good job of keeping me from just completely shutting down so we will see.
 
On thing I have to say, there are certainly no magic pills. I workout hard but there are a lot of flaws in my diet, drinking, and sleeping habits. A lot of people who are ignorant about AAS think these guys just pop pills and inject "roids" and get ****ing jacked like they do. Hell no. Those top "muscle-men" that you see, they are already genetically gifted, like the top .00001% of human-beings on the planet. Their entire lifestyle is a science. They eat right, they sleep, they take care of themselves, they aren't out there partying, and they lift their ****ing ass off. For years and years and years. They earn every goddamn bit of that muscle.





I read something today, most bad ass quote ever.

"Discipline is just choosing between what you want NOW and what you want MOST."


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toolband said:
On thing I have to say, there are certainly no magic pills. I workout hard but there are a lot of flaws in my diet, drinking, and sleeping habits. A lot of people who are ignorant about AAS think these guys just pop pills and inject "roids" and get ****ing jacked like they do. Hell no. Those top "muscle-men" that you see, they are already genetically gifted, like the top .00001% of human-beings on the planet. Their entire lifestyle is a science. They eat right, they sleep, they take care of themselves, they aren't out there partying, and they lift their ****ing ass off. For years and years and years. They earn every goddamn bit of that muscle.

I read something today, most bad ass quote ever.

"Discipline is just choosing between what you want NOW and what you want MOST."

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Well stated. Wish everyone knew that...
 
Good stuff bro! Hope pct goes smooth for you... Next go look into Toremifene and primordials TRS stack... It's my go to for pct
 
PCT sucks! I cant wait to get back on haha, i think ive got my next cycle planned out its gunna be epic haha
 
lol! sorry to hear that bro. keeping your gains?

Yeah for the most part. I've lost a bit of strength but not too much, I've definitely gained a good amount of muscle in two months and gotten quite a bit stronger.

I guess I don't feel that bad. Mostly I just love being on. I plan to continue my adventure, haha. Next time I am going to try to do a much better job of logging everything. This has definitely been a great learning experience for me. Thank you guys for all the help and support!
 
I can't imagine doing this **** without the resources that we have now with internet forums. Must have been some scary **** back in the day trying to do this on your own with little or no resources haha
 
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