JimLahey
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Hello Anabolic Minds. I have been doing a lot of research here for a while, but this is my actual first post. My question addresses how to make the most of my first cycle (I have never taken anything hormonal in the past). Here are my stats:
Age: 24
Time training: 3 years
Starting physique: 5'10" - 170 lbs at 12% bf
Physique now : 5'10" - 200 lbs at 10% bf
So now that we have that stuff out of the way here is my real question(s): I have been considering a 10 week test cycle and through my research I have seen two main theories about first cycles. 1) Make the most of your first cycle by taking a strong bulking agent along with test (and yes I realize that test is arguably a strong bulking agent as well). 2) Keep it just to test because that is all you need.
So, I tend to agree with theory 2, but I wanted to see if anyone else had any input. For example, if hypothetically I ran just test for a first cycle compared to test + a superdrol or dbol kickstart + npp or deca, would the later cycle yield more gains? I am under the impression that it would not because there is only so much real tissue and protein that can be synthesized in 10 weeks. I think the only thing it might do is stress my heart and other organs more and make recovery much harder. Granted, with that silly cycle, I would look bigger on cycle, but would that actually months after pct yield more size?
So another hypothetical cycle (this time less silly): 10 weeks test + 4-6 weeks rpn havoc. Would this yield better gains compared to the all test cycle or would it just be increased glycogen and strength that at the end of the day will not equate to more keep-able muscle?
And lastly, if I do a test cycle, I plan on running prop (I know more painful). So if I were to add something like havoc (or anything else ya'll might suggest), where would I put it? The beginning (although I don't think its smart to run two compounds together that I have never run)? The middle? The end?
Thanks for reading. Also, I know this does not address PCT or ancillaries (like HCG, Arimidex, liver or lipid supps) at all. This is not because I do not think it's important, but because that is not what I'm trying to get out of this thread.
Age: 24
Time training: 3 years
Starting physique: 5'10" - 170 lbs at 12% bf
Physique now : 5'10" - 200 lbs at 10% bf
So now that we have that stuff out of the way here is my real question(s): I have been considering a 10 week test cycle and through my research I have seen two main theories about first cycles. 1) Make the most of your first cycle by taking a strong bulking agent along with test (and yes I realize that test is arguably a strong bulking agent as well). 2) Keep it just to test because that is all you need.
So, I tend to agree with theory 2, but I wanted to see if anyone else had any input. For example, if hypothetically I ran just test for a first cycle compared to test + a superdrol or dbol kickstart + npp or deca, would the later cycle yield more gains? I am under the impression that it would not because there is only so much real tissue and protein that can be synthesized in 10 weeks. I think the only thing it might do is stress my heart and other organs more and make recovery much harder. Granted, with that silly cycle, I would look bigger on cycle, but would that actually months after pct yield more size?
So another hypothetical cycle (this time less silly): 10 weeks test + 4-6 weeks rpn havoc. Would this yield better gains compared to the all test cycle or would it just be increased glycogen and strength that at the end of the day will not equate to more keep-able muscle?
And lastly, if I do a test cycle, I plan on running prop (I know more painful). So if I were to add something like havoc (or anything else ya'll might suggest), where would I put it? The beginning (although I don't think its smart to run two compounds together that I have never run)? The middle? The end?
Thanks for reading. Also, I know this does not address PCT or ancillaries (like HCG, Arimidex, liver or lipid supps) at all. This is not because I do not think it's important, but because that is not what I'm trying to get out of this thread.
