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How about this executive order by Obama?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness

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The United States must have an industrial and technological base capable of
meeting national defense requirements and capable of contributing to the
technological superiority of its national defense equipment in peacetime and in
times of national emergency. The domestic industrial and technological base is
the foundation for national defense preparedness. The authorities provided in
the Act shall be used to strengthen this base and to ensure it is capable of
responding to the national defense needs of the United States.

The head of each agency engaged in procurement for the national defense is
delegated the authority of the President under section 107(a) of the Act, 50
U.S.C. App. 2077(a), to utilize the authority of title III of the Act or any
other provision of law to provide appropriate incentives to develop, maintain,
modernize, restore, and expand the productive capacities of domestic sources for
critical components, critical technology items, materials, and industrial
resources essential for the execution of the national security strategy of the
United States.
(2) upon request by the Director of Selective Service, and in coordination with
the Secretary of Defense, assist the Director of Selective Service in
development of policies regulating the induction and deferment of persons for
duty in the armed services;
so basically the president can seize any business by declaring it necessary for national defense, and can at any moment re-institute the draft for ANYONE and you can basically be "drafted" to work in a factory producing bullets for instance if necessary under this EO. yay.
 
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How about this executive order by Obama?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness

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so basically the president can seize any business by declaring it necessary for national defense, and can at any moment re-institute the draft for ANYONE and you can basically be "drafted" to work in a factory producing bullets for instance if necessary under this EO. yay.
Heil Obama.

And people were being laughed at and considered psychotic on mainstream news when comparing Obama to Hitler and the SS.
 
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the constant chipping away at our constitution, liberties and rights
 
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the constant chipping away at our constitution, liberties and rights
They arent chipping it away anymore. Its done with, its just a historical document they hold in a museum. The current regime (and I dont mean just Obama) is under a new form of government, its called the NWO. America no longer exists the way people think although its promoted that way. Freedom is the new tyranny. Goverment groping your genitals is freedom.

If anyone thinks Im a "conspiracy theorist" we just had the head of military and former head CIA director Leon Panetta tell congress (video below) that the military and executive go to NATO and the UN for permission's, and congress is merely ceremonial. Now if our government has no more control over our military but a foreign entity does, how can we still say we are an independent country and the constitution is law?

 
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Sadly and depressingly....nail on head :(

RIP ''America''

They arent chipping it away anymore. Its done with, its just a historical document they hold in a museum. The current regime (and I dont mean just Obama) is under a new form of government, its called the NWO. America no longer exists the way people think although its promoted that way. Freedom is the new tyranny. Goverment groping your genitals is freedom.
 
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ax you're not a conspiracy theorist when the people doing all of this are out in the open...speaking what they are going to do.


didn't Hilary just ignore congress and give a ton of foreign aid to Egypt? aka the Muslim brotherhood.
 
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Lol you guys are talking about the Constitution as if anyone's paid attention to it in years. History lesson: Obama doesn't pay heed to it (McCain wouldn't have), GWB didn't, Clinton didn't, Bush 1 didn't, Reagan didn't. I'd probably have to seriously look to find the last President who did (and I'm talking like more than once when it was politically savvy).

It's probably a freaking waste of time even teaching kids about it anymore as much as its disregarded. I don't have kids yet, but I can imagine "them saying did you know the gov't can't do X, X, X, X, because the Constitution says so?" And me replying "ah yes, son the Constitution, rules for government that no one follows." It's like traveling in the NBA. Sure it's probably in the rule book, but it doesn't get used so it may as well not exist. Ron Paul talks about it and you see how much attention that gets you.
 
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How about this executive order by Obama?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness

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so basically the president can seize any business by declaring it necessary for national defense, and can at any moment re-institute the draft for ANYONE and you can basically be "drafted" to work in a factory producing bullets for instance if necessary under this EO. yay.
Sweet ! A job I'll actually enjoy trying to get fired from!
 
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the economy won't matter when it's a one world system
It already is. We dont even have a military anymore. Its funded by congress, but they go to the UN and NATO for authority for wars regardless of what our elected representatives think.
 
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It already is. We dont even have a military anymore. Its funded by congress, but they go to the UN and NATO for authority for wars regardless of what our elected representatives think.
that's just the beginning.

I need to pm you haha
 

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I just looked at some of the old primaries and Ron Paul was only winning 5-15% of the vote. Why the fuk won't people vote for him? I think it's because he probably reminds alot of people of Bush but people need to fuking understand that not all Texans are as dumb and retarded as bush was at times.Ron is not Bush so grow the fuk up.

Ron Paul 2012
 
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I just looked at some of the old primaries and Ron Paul was only winning 5-15% of the vote. Why the fuk won't people vote for him? I think it's because he probably reminds alot of people of Bush but people need to fuking understand that not all Texans are as dumb and retarded as bush was at times.Ron is not Bush so grow the fuk up.

Ron Paul 2012
it's more that he represents true conservative ideology and the establishment is not going to allow that in a candidate.
 
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I just looked at some of the old primaries and Ron Paul was only winning 5-15% of the vote. Why the fuk won't people vote for him? I think it's because he probably reminds alot of people of Bush but people need to fuking understand that not all Texans are as dumb and retarded as bush was at times.Ron is not Bush so grow the fuk up.

Ron Paul 2012
People are scared to death of the amount of change that Ron Paul might bring. It would have been great if he won but he represents too much change for America. He would be eviscerated in a general election campaign. It's sad but true.
 
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Most of the electorate doesn't even understand what Ron Paul is talking about. It's not
Popular to say it but a fair amount of Americans are totally ignorant.
 
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Most of the electorate doesn't even understand what Ron Paul is talking about. It's not
Popular to say it but a fair amount of Americans are totally ignorant.
and the left owns media and education so most will stay totally ignorant, fed lies and socialist ideas

edit: I can't even say its the left. it's the far left George soros and gang
 

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Now that a nominee is all but decided, who is the pick for the VP? Most are assuming Rubio, but I think the Romney campaign might go in another direction.
 
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and the left owns media and education so most will stay totally ignorant, fed lies and socialist ideas

edit: I can't even say its the left. it's the far left George soros and gang
George Soros is just a globalist posing as "left." Kind of like Al Gore. He buys out all the left media and declares war on alternative media. George Soros wants to revive the "Fairness Doctrine" aka HR 3302 and basically destroy what we have left of free speach. He is very Hitlarian.
 
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Now that a nominee is all but decided, who is the pick for the VP? Most are assuming Rubio, but I think the Romney campaign might go in another direction.
Rubio won't take it. I like Nikki Haley, and would be thrilled with Dick Armey but that will never happen.
 
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Now that a nominee is all but decided, who is the pick for the VP? Most are assuming Rubio, but I think the Romney campaign might go in another direction.
Imagine General Patreus getting into the mix, maybe on Obama's side? Probably never happen but Im sure the idea is on the table.
 

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Rubio won't take it. I like Nikki Haley, and would be thrilled with Dick Armey but that will never happen.
I don't think she takes it either. I wouldn't be surprised with Santorum or maybe Martinez from NM.
 
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I don't think she takes it either. I wouldn't be surprised with Santorum or maybe Martinez from NM.
Condolezza Rice would also be an awesome pick that would really be hard to tear apart.
 

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Condolezza Rice would also be an awesome pick that would really be hard to tear apart.
this would be ideal IMO. SHe has great foreign policy chops (something Romney lacks) is exceptionally bright and well spoken. Would make Biden look foolish (as usual) in a debate. An educated, African American woman from the south? Wow

Regarding West....he is way to much of a gaffe machine. He would make Biden look sane.

Personally....a Romney/Rice ticket could do quite well.
 
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Personally....a Romney/Rice ticket could do quite well.
Boring. We need Sarah Palin back, at least I have something to look forward too.
 
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Boring. We need Sarah Palin back, at least I have something to look forward too.
This one is a classic, we need to find more of these!

 
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Boring. We need Sarah Palin back, at least I have something to look forward too.
Haha. That would never happen. She finally has what she always wanted. A paying media job.
 
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To think that Sarah Palin had a chance to be commander in chief is one of the scariest propositions the American people have ever faced.
 
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To think that Sarah Palin had a chance to be commander in chief is one of the scariest propositions the American people have ever faced.
I dunno it's pretty bad that a chameleon is commander in chief.

it's funny that the president of the united states sure has a lotta buddies and surrounds his administration with people that want to destroy capitalism and see the U.S. crumble
 

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I dunno it's pretty bad that a chameleon is commander in chief.

it's funny that the president of the united states sure has a lotta buddies and surrounds his administration with people that want to destroy capitalism and see the U.S. crumble
Sounding a little too fox news/rush for me. See the us crumble? Doubtful.....but most likely misguided ad foolish is more probable IMO.
 
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Sounding a little too fox news/rush for me. See the us crumble? Doubtful.....but most likely misguided ad foolish is more probable IMO.
read the words of bill ayers, frances fox piven, george soros, van jones...

can't have the US in the way to have a one world govt and currency.
 
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Sounding a little too fox news/rush for me. See the us crumble? Doubtful.....but most likely misguided ad foolish is more probable IMO.
The US government doesnt have control of the military anymore, its already recently proven the top military brass and the Excecutive branch (proven by them themselves) go to UN and NATO for authority. That is global government, that is the NWO. If thats not a sign of the US crumbling I dunno what else is.

I hate fox and rush by the way, lol
 
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The US government doesnt have control of the military anymore, its already recently proven the top military brass and the Excecutive branch (proven by them themselves) go to UN and NATO for authority. That is global government, that is the NWO. If thats not a sign of the US crumbling I dunno what else is.

I hate fox and rush by the way, lol
I don't watch fox or rush either.

it's simply what is going on
 
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I dunno it's pretty bad that a chameleon is commander in chief.

it's funny that the president of the united states sure has a lotta buddies and surrounds his administration with people that want to destroy capitalism and see the U.S. crumble
It wasn't supposed to be an Obama endorsement. But did anyone really think to themselves "Sarah Palin...glad we have someone with this kind of intelligence in charge?" Honestly she seemed fine until I realize she had the foreign policy knowledge of a 6th grader.
 
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Sounding a little too fox news/rush for me. See the us crumble? Doubtful.....but most likely misguided ad foolish is more probable IMO.
It's not that government officials, democrats and other wealthy liberals want to really see America crumble but I do think it's because they want to do the only thing they can to ensure their power and wealth stick in the long run...which is socialism. Think about it, the public and states hand over power to central government further ensuring that the federal government "modulates" all of the income (via taxes and court systems) and redistributes wealth. While some of that wealth is redistributed, there are two very important things that a naive individual miss.

1) Restribution of wealth creates an entitlement society. No one earns a dang thing anymore. They just feed off of the ones actually doing something. This is already a reality in our country today. Obama has only exponentially increased the pace via class warfare. He's tearing society apart in the process. Everyone will eventually become polarized in their views.

2) The government has about a 10% efficiency with financial utilization. That means that 10% of the total money that goes into the government comes back out of the government and into state programs or other tangible, measureable investments that the people could use. The other 90% goes to various (and unnecessary) programs, IRA's and into the pockets of lots of government officials, lobbyists and maybe even some larger public companies out there..just depends on who needs what to make the political, social and economic agenda work in favor of one thing - sustainability of power. Government uses our money to sustain it's own power, not to serve us. Granted, a few add-ins to the amendments (and a few take-aways as well) and we could be back on track to a government that truly demands servitude and honesty from its members in Congress.

Obama and his office is willing to take capitalist sacrifices to an all new level to ensure that the government keeps its power and is on track for more power. I've come to realize that Karl Marx realization of communism is inevitable. He didn't need to "infiltrate" America to make us turn to his philosophy. He states that capitalism comes first, then socialism, then communism. Each is a progression of the former. With that said, the real reason we will eventually be a full-blown communist state is not because of Karl Marx or President Obama. I've come to realize the truth: that men by nature are selfish. Give a man or several men power for long enough and they will exploit it, grow it and protect it. That's basically what communism is.
 
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Fueled - NAIL ON HEAD man ;)
 
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Wow that does sum it up doesn't it? No wonder why people are so ignorant to facts these days...
 
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Paul Ryan is said to be a heavy consideration lately.

http://usconservatives.about.com/od/champions/p/PaulRyanBIO.htm

Extremely conservative (good match as Romney is a moderate) and solid/known for his financial/budget-wsie attributes (with this economy, much needed).


Now that a nominee is all but decided, who is the pick for the VP? Most are assuming Rubio, but I think the Romney campaign might go in another direction.
 
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Fueled - NAIL ON HEAD man ;)
Yeah man I have been doing alot of research since I took my business accounting/business law class last semester. I started writing a book about all of these things. I named it "God, Religion and Politics - Oh my!"

I wont get famous from it though..not in this lifetime. I plan to publish it but it'll be one of those books that gets attention after it's too late, along with George Orwell's "Animal Farm".
 
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It's not that government officials, democrats and other wealthy liberals want to really see America crumble but I do think it's because they want to do the only thing they can to ensure their power and wealth stick in the long run...which is socialism. Think about it, the public and states hand over power to central government further ensuring that the federal government "modulates" all of the income (via taxes and court systems) and redistributes wealth. While some of that wealth is redistributed, there are two very important things that a naive individual miss.

1) Restribution of wealth creates an entitlement society. No one earns a dang thing anymore. They just feed off of the ones actually doing something. This is already a reality in our country today. Obama has only exponentially increased the pace via class warfare. He's tearing society apart in the process. Everyone will eventually become polarized in their views.

2) The government has about a 10% efficiency with financial utilization. That means that 10% of the total money that goes into the government comes back out of the government and into state programs or other tangible, measureable investments that the people could use. The other 90% goes to various (and unnecessary) programs, IRA's and into the pockets of lots of government officials, lobbyists and maybe even some larger public companies out there..just depends on who needs what to make the political, social and economic agenda work in favor of one thing - sustainability of power. Government uses our money to sustain it's own power, not to serve us. Granted, a few add-ins to the amendments (and a few take-aways as well) and we could be back on track to a government that truly demands servitude and honesty from its members in Congress.

Obama and his office is willing to take capitalist sacrifices to an all new level to ensure that the government keeps its power and is on track for more power. I've come to realize that Karl Marx realization of communism is inevitable. He didn't need to "infiltrate" America to make us turn to his philosophy. He states that capitalism comes first, then socialism, then communism. Each is a progression of the former. With that said, the real reason we will eventually be a full-blown communist state is not because of Karl Marx or President Obama. I've come to realize the truth: that men by nature are selfish. Give a man or several men power for long enough and they will exploit it, grow it and protect it. That's basically what communism is.
this is why we are a constitutional republic...and why it took 100 years to get the socialism gears turning.

the three branches of govt were great, and so was freedom while it lasted.
 
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This!

He's easily THE WORST President in US History.

Give me Richard Nixon, at least I can "understand" his faults.

Obama is so anti-America with Anti-American cronies, the fact he is the President and leader of our country is flat out despicable.

I dunno it's pretty bad that a chameleon is commander in chief.

it's funny that the president of the united states sure has a lotta buddies and surrounds his administration with people that want to destroy capitalism and see the U.S. crumble
 
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Very cool buddy. Good luck to you on that endeavor ;)

Yeah man I have been doing alot of research since I took my business accounting/business law class last semester. I started writing a book about all of these things. I named it "God, Religion and Politics - Oh my!"

I wont get famous from it though..not in this lifetime. I plan to publish it but it'll be one of those books that gets attention after it's too late, along with George Orwell's "Animal Farm".
 
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This!

He's easily THE WORST President in US History.

Give me Richard Nixon, at least I can "understand" his faults.


Obama is so anti-America with Anti-American cronies, the fact he is the President and leader of our country is flat out despicable.
The only thing I can't understand is how the 45-50% of Americans that follow him have gone this long without researching for themselves and seeing the faultiness in his philosophy.

There are so many other countries that we can observe in order to see the failures in socialism and communism not to mention the various cases of genocide in the process (over 192 million people have died by the hand of socialism and communism around the world since 1900). Just goes to show how far people in power will go to keep their power...

And secondly, I feel that America has to ask itself a question --> What do we want to be or represent?

If we're all about "quality of life" then we need to stick to original American values which is capitalism, democracy and absolute freedom. It's where religion and ethics dominate daily social behaviors and the laws of the land are only there to define when punishment starts.

But if we're just about "mass production" or "total efficiency" then yes, we need to move toward communism and be like China where production is great but quality of life sucks. But if we chose that, we wouldn't be "american" anymore. We'd be something else altogether. Something that fancies a liberal's heart I guess.
 

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