Might stop epistane...thoughts on PCT?
- Thread starter KaOs42
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redthorn23
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why stop?
Jwag17
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What kind of feeling are you getting? I actually stopped an epi cycle 3 days in because of dry joints. I was dosing at 30mg a day though. And at times it kind of made my heart feel racey. Not sure if it was because I didnt take a cycle assist or hawthorne or what. Could you elaborate on the feeling? Is it a constant thing throughout the day or just at times.
Jwag17
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Sounds like he had intentions of finishing the cycle when he started, but side effects are always a factory and they are different for everyone, could he not switch over to something like halo-plex from epi which is also known to have mild sides? Maybe halo will work better for him, and give him no sides?
KaOs42
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how would you dose erase without anything else? should i run a test booster as well or not?
or would a test booster alone be suffice?
The weird feelings are not all the time only here and there
Couple days ago shopping in walmart i got an intense feeling in my lower back and thought i was going to pass out (might have been backpumps and it was only 1 time)
Slight pain in testicles
Aches on my sides sometimes
Shoulder pain (maybe joint pain but im taking super ciccus for joint sipport)
This could be me just siking myself out but was just curious...i dont want to up the dose and experience intense sides and then have to start my full pct early because nolva is not the safest thing to take either
or would a test booster alone be suffice?
The weird feelings are not all the time only here and there
Couple days ago shopping in walmart i got an intense feeling in my lower back and thought i was going to pass out (might have been backpumps and it was only 1 time)
Slight pain in testicles
Aches on my sides sometimes
Shoulder pain (maybe joint pain but im taking super ciccus for joint sipport)
This could be me just siking myself out but was just curious...i dont want to up the dose and experience intense sides and then have to start my full pct early because nolva is not the safest thing to take either
Jwag17
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The lowerback pain is more than likely back pumps you are experiencing. Taurine will help that for sure. The acheyness in the joints, or shoulders in your case is probably dry joints which epistane is known to give people dry joints. Fish Oil along with you ciccus will help this although the ciccus I believe is just for inflamation. You may also want to take glucosamine/chondroiten to help the joints as well. My joint pain was in the elbows and shoulders. Needtobuildmuscle.com has forged joint repair. It is a great product and mine arrived in 2 days with free shipping, It has all the good stuff in it for your joints. As for the testicular and side pain I am not sure. If your joint pain is super bad like mine you can always try a product like haloplex which is milder than epi or along the same line, as well as it doesnt give you the dry joints.
KaOs42
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so continue with cycle and bump up to 30mg for week 2?
Jwag17
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Yes it is a form of hdrol. Very mild on sides. I am not sure about the pct after a week. I know when I dosed 30 and was on epi for like 4 days I just got off of it and switched to a natural test booster and was fine. Plus epi doesnt have a very long half life. If you take the taurine you wont have any back pump issues, virtually non existant, glucosamine will help joints, so will fish oil. The ball pain, well if you can deal with it I'd say finish the cycle. If the walmart ordeal was the worst of the worst that is making you want to stop, I'd take the taurine and continue on. And lastly for the shoulder pain. Heck lift lighter on shoulder day if you have to. no sense in doing damage. But look into glucosamine, and fish oil as well.
Cheif
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KaOs42 said:
It's up to you brother, but I've experienced sides such as these.
The testicular pain is only temporary, remember you are stressing out your jewels when you take any PH/DS.
The joint pains is an easy fix with the glucosamine like I said before. Or joint juice.
It all works.
Back pumps go right away with taurine.
You can buy it most pharmacies, and places like ***.
I think you are just psyching yourself out man.
Give it another week, and if you really just can't stand it, then stop and do a mini PCT.
But I'm telling you, these are typical, usual sides for an androgenic agent.
KaOs42
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i decided to continue and glad i did. i bumped it up to 30mg now and i am feeling great. almost no sides but my left shoulder still hurts but that is no big deal at all!
thanks a lot for your support bro
and everyone else! really the only reason i decided to continue