PES Anabeta / USPLabs Prime ... the Stack!

wasme

wasme

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First of all thanks to NattyDisaster, PES, and USPLabs for this opportunity. And of course to those of you who come along for the ride…this is my first log.

Stats:

Weight: 215.6 lbs
Height: 5’11"
BF: unknown but will find out (probably around 22%)
Neck: 16"
Chest: 46"
Biceps: 15"
Waist: 37"
Leg half way to knee: 27"
Calf: 19"

Dosing:

Anabeta: 4/day x 8 weeks (1,1,1,1)
PRIME: 6/day x 8 weeks – with no day off (2,2,2)

*purchasing 1 bottle of prime to allow for this.

Diet:

2500-3000 calories
High protein, med fats, low carb
(Saturdays will carb load, possibly Wednesdays too depending on energy levels)

Other Supplements:

NO Products – typically Jack3d but will give a mini review/comparison of any samples I try.
BCAA’s (20-30g) – AI Recovery Pro or Allmax Amnicore
Creatine (5-10g)
Fish Oils (1800 EPH, 1200 DHA)
Multi
Vitamin D (2000 iu daily)

Workout: LST-7

Day 1: Biceps, Triceps, Calves
Day 2: Legs, Abs
Day 3: Off
Day 4: Chest, Triceps
Day 5: Back, Calves
Day 6: Shoulders, Biceps, Abs
Day 7: Off

Fasted cardio upon rising 6 days / week (typically in the form of a 5-8km jog)

I will also comment on the following using a (1-10 range – as per Rosie Chee Scott and Chedapalooza):
Overall Feeling
Aggression
Energy
Libido
Endurance
Strength
Pump
Vascularity
Recovery
Sleep Quality

..Any comments, advice or feedback would be welcomed!
 
Day 1:

Workout: Biceps / Triceps / Calves

Preacher Curls - 4 x 10
Hammer Curls - 4 x 10
**EZ Bar Curls - 7 x 12
Close-grip Bench Press - 4 x 10
Overhead Rope Extensions - 4 x 12
**Pushdowns - 7 x 15
Standing Calf Raises 4 x 15 (2 sets toes in, 2 sets toes out)
**Standing Calf Raises 7 x 15

Cardio - 5.2km run

Overall Feeling: Obviously a placebo effect as I felt good all day - new stack is exciting after all.
Aggression: 5 - typically a laid back individual
Energy: 7 - a little more than normal due to excitement of new workout/stack
Libido: 6
Endurance: 7 - a little more than normal due to excitement of new workout/stack
Strength: 7
Pump: 7 (the 7 sets for each body part certainly created a great pump)
Vascularity: 6 normal
Recovery: will know tomorrow
Sleep Quality: better be good - legs tomorrow!
 
Looking forward to your take on the products. All the best!
 
Glad to see you got this rolling. Subbed for the ride. Good luck!
 
In this, looking forward to hearing your results!
 
Thanks Kevin


Day 2: Legs
Leg Extensions: 3 x 10
Squats: 4 x 10
Lunges: 4 x 8
**Leg Extensions: 7 x 15
Stiff Leg Deadlift: 5 x 8
**Lying Leg Curls: 7 x 12
Ab work (crunches, planks)

Cardio - 5.8km run

Overall Feeling: Same as yesterday
Aggression: 5
Energy: 7 - same as yesterday psyched to be on/logging this stack
Libido: 6
Endurance: 7 - a little more than normal due to excitement of new workout/stack
Strength: 7
Pump: 6
Vascularity: 6
Recovery: Sore, feels good though lol
Sleep Quality: 5 hours last night, woke up alot - I usually dont sleep the greatest though.

Great workout...those 7's with the 30 second rests are killer!!!
 
Day 3:

Cardio: 6km

Overall Feeling: Was tired today..sleeping really crappy. And very hot all the time...guess Im rev'd up and ready to go lol
Aggression: 5
Energy: 6, as stated bit tired today.
Libido: 6
Endurance: 8 - run was easy this morning
Strength: 7
Pump: 6
Vascularity: 6
Recovery: Still feeling sore, which would be a good sign I'd say..
Sleep Quality: 3.5 hours last night, woke up so much.

Tomorrow is Chest/Tri's
 
Day 4: Chest, Triceps


Bench Press: 5 x 5
Incline Dumbbell Flys: 4 x 10
Incline Bench Press: 4 x 8
** Pec Deck: 7 x 12
Reverse Grip Bench Press 4 x 10
** Triceps Pushdown: 7 x 15


Cardio: 5.5km


Overall Feeling: Feeling good today but again no sleep, anyone else have sleep issues on this?
Aggression: 5
Energy: 6
Libido: 6
Endurance: 7
Strength: 7
Pump: 8 great pump in chest
Vascularity: 6
Recovery: Triceps hurt like a b1tch while working them..lol
Sleep Quality: I know I'm not the best sleeper, but last night was crazy... couple of hours at best..
**Appetite: others that have used these products have said their appetite goes way up, so I will add this - at the moment it is normal (6)
 
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Great workout to start the long weekend..

Day 5: Back, Calves

Wide Grip Lat Pulldowns: 4 x 12
- Supersetted with Reverse Grip Pulldowns: 4 x 10
One Arm Dumbbell Rows: 4 x 10
Seated Cable Row: 3 x 8
Deadlifts: 4 x 8
** V-bar Pulldowns: 7 x 12
Standing Calves: 4 x 15 (Toes in/out)
**Calves Machine: 7 x 15
Abs: crunches

Cardio: 6.5km


Overall Feeling: Feeling really good today, with an excellent workout.
Aggression: 5
Energy: 8 - seems to be up a bit.. did run, weights, then raked the front and back yard...couldnt sit still
Libido: 6
Endurance: 7
Strength: 7
Pump: 7
Vascularity: 6
Recovery: 8 - feeling recovered
Sleep Quality: Finally a good sleep - 7 hours.
Appetite: 6

Tomorrow: Shoulders, Biceps...
 
Day 6: Shoulders, Biceps
Military Press: 4 x 10
Front Raises: 4 x 10
** Side Lateral Raises: 7 x 10
Dumbbell Shrugs: 4 x 12
** Barbbell Shrugs: 7 x 12
Concentration Curls: 4 x 10
**Preacher Curls: 7 x 10

Cardio: 7.1km


Overall Feeling: Feel good, but felt completely drained after my workout this morning. Don't think I ate enough yesterday.
Aggression: 5
Energy: 7 - decent energy, but workout totally took it out of me. Now that I have had lunch I am feeling more energetic again.
Libido: 5 - I think this has actually gone down a little.
Endurance: 6 - ran out of gas a little sooner today
Strength: 7
Pump: 7 - good pump in my arms after the preachers
Vascularity: 6
Recovery: 8 - can feel yesterdays workout in my back but not overly bad.. bumped up my BCAA consumption. Spreading an extra 10g throughout the evening.
Sleep Quality: Another great sleep - 7 hours.
Appetite: 8 last night I was hungry as hell.

Tomorrow: Day off... Easter.. and a big a$$ turkey dinner... yum!
 
Day 8: Biceps / Triceps / Calves

Preacher Curls - 4 x 10
Hammer Curls - 4 x 10
**EZ Bar Curls - 7 x 12
Close-grip Bench Press - 4 x 10
Overhead Rope Extensions - 4 x 12
**Pushdowns - 7 x 15
Standing Calf Raises 4 x 15 (2 sets toes in, 2 sets toes out)
**Standing Calf Raises 7 x 15

Cardio - 5km run

Overall Feeling: Feeling good, starting to feel 'harder' in the chest.
Aggression: 7 - yesterday is seemed to get pissed off about minor things, not as bad today but certainly different.
Energy: 6/8 - before workout felt very unmotivated...during workout had a ton of energy and thereafter..
Libido: 5
Endurance: 8 - a great workout, lots of energy
Strength: 7 - same
Pump: 8 got a great pump in my biceps during the 7's
Vascularity: 8 alot more vascular during the workout today and fora few hours after... returned to normal this evening though.. love seeing the veins though
Recovery: excellent recover... took a shower, had a shake, some oatmeal and felt great... minimal soreness
Sleep Quality: sleep good
Appetite: this is a strange one.. i get hungry more, but also finding I am craving things...

I would have to say things are starting to take effect....
 
That's where I started feeling it was in the chest still do actually ;-)
 
wasme said:
Thanks Cam, how are things in your neck of the woods? when does your next stack start?
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Easter was awful... Gained 8 pounds over the weekend. Spent 3 hours working it off today.. Hopefully I'll be leaner tomorrow. Mostly water weight but still sucks. I'm on leviathan and hghup and division 1 now.. Next month is Anabeta elite and pro xt 500 and isatest. Will be logging..sponsored by pes and finaflex
 
What kind of cravings?
 
chedapalooza said:
Easter was awful... Gained 8 pounds over the weekend. Spent 3 hours working it off today.. Hopefully I'll be leaner tomorrow. Mostly water weight but still sucks. I'm on leviathan and hghup and division 1 now.. Next month is Anabeta elite and pro xt 500 and isatest. Will be logging..sponsored by pes and finaflex
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I am sure I am up as well, due to that massive turkey / ham dinner the other day... and will admit nibbled on some of the kids chocolate as well lol... Your next stack looks sweet...

What do you think of HGHup - I have a bottle of HGHpro amongst some other stuff from JD that I will start when I am finished this log...
 
wasme said:
I am sure I am up as well, due to that massive turkey / ham dinner the other day... and will admit nibbled on some of the kids chocolate as well lol... Your next stack looks sweet...

What do you think of HGHup - I have a bottle of HGHpro amongst some other stuff from JD that I will start when I am finished this log...
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Ugh I can eat all the real food I want, it's the sugar that got me..
Love hghup.. Great sleep quality and was noticing some INSANE siZe gains and leaning until this dreaded past weekend.. Things are returning to normal quickly tho.
 
Colbicide said:
What kind of cravings?
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I would have to say I'm starting to crave sugars more than anything, and cereal. So I curb it with some natty pb, and usually a thick shake (protein not McDonalds lol)... But I find I can eat like a horse - tonight pork tenderloin, salad, cauliflower till i was stuffed... and 20 minutes later was hungry again..
 
chedapalooza said:
Ugh I can eat all the real food I want, it's the sugar that got me..
Love hghup.. Great sleep quality and was noticing some INSANE siZe gains and leaning until this dreaded past weekend.. Things are returning to normal quickly tho.
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I hear ya, sweets/ice cream crap like that really gets to me fast...funny thing the sugar makes me feel like crap a few hours later... Have you tried HGH Pro? how do you find it vs HGH Up...
 
wasme said:
I have noticed it the most in my chest, but also in Triceps..

Did it 'spread' for you?
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Yeah shoulders then tris bis nothing really lower body mainly because I don't push lower as hard as upper (starting to change that tho :-) )
 
Day 9: Legs

Leg Extensions: 3 x 15
Squats: 4 x 10
Lunges: 4 x 8
**Leg Extensions: 7 x 15
Stiff Leg Deadlift: 5 x 8
**Lying Leg Curls: 7 x 12
Ab work (crunches, planks)


Cardio - 5.1km run


Overall Feeling: Same as yesterday
Aggression: 5
Energy: 8
Libido: 5
Endurance: 8 - run was decent, but my leg work albeit long / tiring felt excellent
Strength: 7
Pump: 6
Vascularity: 7 - veins out in arms while doing legs...hmmmm
Recovery: Good recovery although I think I might have hurt my left ham doing lunges.. but will keep stretching over next couple of days.. not worried..
Sleep Quality: another solid 7 hours...
Appetite: 8 ..hunger/cravings were plentiful.. had a big ass coffee though and that seemed to put them at bay..
 
wasme said:
I would have to say I'm starting to crave sugars more than anything, and cereal. So I curb it with some natty pb, and usually a thick shake (protein not McDonalds lol)... But I find I can eat like a horse - tonight pork tenderloin, salad, cauliflower till i was stuffed... and 20 minutes later was hungry again..
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Yea, filled up and still hungry. Black hole void is just not going away.
 
Day 10 : OFF

Cardio - 7.1km run


Overall Feeling: Decent
Aggression: 5
Energy: 7 feel a little less motivated today
Libido: 5 <-- this sucks!
Endurance: 6 - tank feels a little depleted
Strength: 7
Pump: 6
Vascularity: 6
Recovery: Recovery wise doing well, legs feel as though they are almost recovered
Sleep Quality: 7 hours...doing better in the sleep department, actually had trouble getting up this morning..
Appetite: 7 ... have more of that 'boredom' hunger than the black hole hunger... mind you that normally hits me in the evening after dinner..


So I have been running this now for 10 days. 4 Anabeta per day and 6 Prime per day. I did order another bottle of Prime so I could run both for 8 full weeks. But wondering now if I should switch it up a little, kick up the dosing on both and run say 6 weeks. Or if I should just dose as per label for 8 weeks...

Any input / thoughts are appreciated?


 
Sorry to seethe libido issues. Dosing protocols can be BITHC to figure out at times, I agoNize over it with my calendar much more than I'd care to admit... I've always found prime worked well at 4 caps a day daily. That makes one bottle last 30 days... I did that for 3 moths on one off back in 07/08.. I dosed 2 caps pre workout and 2 caps with my post workout meal following lean gains. Seeing all this 6/9 stuff is new to me and I never did that... Eating LG, 4 caps was enough..the extra 2 would potentially go to waste in my case, not being taken with much if any food. In your case I would say up the dose to 6 or 8 caps a day. 2 pre workout
2 post workout meal, 2 with a shake/and or before bed. 6 on one off..
 
Alright I will give that a shot.. Have to figure out what I have left.. perhaps go the rest of this week on current dosing then switch it up start of week 3.... What about Anabeta - leave at 4/day? or up it as well...
 
wasme said:
Alright I will give that a shot.. Have to figure out what I have left.. perhaps go the rest of this week on current dosing then switch it up start of week 3.... What about Anabeta - leave at 4/day? or up it as well...
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Alway had excellent results at 4/day

1 pre workout
2 post with meal
1 with shake/snack pre bed
 
Damn, sorry to hear about the libido... Totally opposite of what I'm seeing. Running the 4 Anabeta spread out the day with the Prime at 9 M-F and 4 on Sat & Sun. And I have to agree, dosing can be a beeyotch to figure out. Good luck.
 
Colbicide said:
Damn, sorry to hear about the libido... Totally opposite of what I'm seeing. Running the 4 Anabeta spread out the day with the Prime at 9 M-F and 4 on Sat & Sun. And I have to agree, dosing can be a beeyotch to figure out. Good luck.
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Are Sat/Sun your non-training days? If so if I train Mon-Tues-Thurs-Fri-Sat would i go 9 on those days and 4 on Sun/Tues?

I am only 11 days into it... so hoping next week the libido will wake up lol
 
wasme said:
Are Sat/Sun your non-training days? If so if I train Mon-Tues-Thurs-Fri-Sat would i go 9 on those days and 4 on Sun/Tues?

I am only 11 days into it... so hoping next week the libido will wake up lol
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Yep, I try to train a 5 on 2 off so 9 M-F and 4 S-S. I usually go over the 'suggested' dosage of other peoples logs due to being much larger than them. The one thing is, is that it takes time to build up in your system. The Anabeta took a good 7 days before the black hole hunger kicked in. It took nearly two full weeks for the Prime to kick in and the only reason I know it did was the frequent erections... I'd recommend running your current stacked dosages for a full two weeks and if you don't like what you see, adjust them. Personally, I would like to run the Prime even higher as I am not fully sold on it's half of this stack but I only have the two bottles to use. Just my $0.02.
 
Funny you say about a week for Anabeta. It was about Day 7-8 where I was really hungry all of a sudden. Here's to hoping the next 3-4 days brings lots of 'wood' lmao!!!
 
Day 11: Chest, Triceps

Added to my chest workout today...dont think I should have as I totally ran out of gas and struggled at the end..

Bench Press: 5 x 5
Incline Bench Press: 4 x 8
Superset with Incline Dumbbell Flys: 3 x 10 (added)
Decline Bench Press: 4 x 8 (8,7,5,6)
Superset with Decline Dumbbell Flys: 3 x 8 (added)
** Pec Deck: 7 x 12
Reverse Grip Bench Press 4 x 10
** Triceps Pushdown: 7 x 15


Cardio: 5.5km


Overall Feeling: seem to consistantly just feel good - however there is no 'great feeling of wellbeing' but maybe because this isnt a testbooster.
Aggression: 5
Energy: 7
Libido: 4 still in the tank
Endurance: 7 - to begin with was great, but as workout wore on ... hit a wall.
Strength: 8 - bench went up 10lbs on the 5x5
Pump: 8 great pump in chest
Vascularity: 7
Recovery: will admit i feel very recovered. Hamstring that was really sore two days ago is fine...also feeling recovered from this morning.
Sleep Quality: Have been sleeping well. 5-7 hours a night, with 1 wakeup usually.
Appetite: Feels off the charts... had dinner.. then an hour later had to have some pb on whole wheat toast.. then a shake.. feel satisfied now at least...The appetite kinda worries me, that I will add fat.. need to be a bit more careful i think with all these cravings...
 
Think that's too much volume for chest.. Fst7 doesn't need to get all fancied up! It's the one routine I have yet to need to tweak! If anything u should add the volume for tri's as shown as simply shredded . Com
 
Dinner... PB&J on whole wheat... Shake... That combination has been used quite a few times the past 5 weeks on this stack in my house. It does seem to help fill the void a bit.
 
I couldn't agree more. I was half way through chest thinking what the hell am I doing.. should have stuck with the same workout as last week... and not gone for the supersets.. In the end my decline pressing/flys sucked, and my closegrip bench was brutal.. Will rock it out next go around though.. and will do some reading on shredded, thx
 
Day 12: Back, Calves


Wide Grip Lat Pulldowns: 4 x 12
- Supersetted with Reverse Grip Pulldowns: 4 x 10
One Arm Dumbbell Rows: 4 x 10
Seated Cable Row: 3 x 8
Deadlifts: 4 x 8
** V-bar Pulldowns: 7 x 12
Standing Calves: 4 x 15 (Toes in/out)
**Calves Machine: 7 x 15
Abs: crunches


Cardio: 6.3km




Overall Feeling: Ok so yesterday felt kinda sh*tty.. then today I have this great feeling inside.. like deep within.. dont know what that is about but feels good...
Aggression: 5
Energy: 8 - good energy through workout, and unlike yesterday didnt hit a wall..good strong workout.
Libido: 5 - blah...
Endurance: 8 - felt good right through till the last calf raise..
Strength: 7
Pump: 9 - my chest got a full pump back in it a few sets into back.. and still there.. feels hard as a rock..
Vascularity: 7
Recovery: 7 chest still sore but recovering..
Sleep Quality: Sleeping really good..
Appetite: 8 ... might have to buy a side of beef!!!!


Tomorrow: Shoulders, Biceps...
 
Day 13: Shoulders, Biceps
Military Press: 4 x 8
Front Raises: 4 x 10
** Side Lateral Raises: 7 x 10
Dumbbell Shrugs: 4 x 12
** Barbbell Shrugs: 7 x 12
Close Grip EZ Bar Curls: 4 x 10
Incline Alternating Dumbbell Curls: 4 x 10
**Preacher Curls: 7 x 10


Cardio: 8.2km




Overall Feeling: Felt great this morning. Fantastic workout. 8km run then weights..
Aggression: 5
Energy: 8 - seemed to have an abundance of energy today.
Libido: 4 - wakey wakey...I keep waiting for this to change..
Endurance: 8 - nice long workout and still had something left at the end - not much but a little lol
Strength: 7
Pump: 9 biggest pump i have ever seen in my biceps..
Vascularity: 8..had some veins popping in my traps when doing shrugs.. admit never seen that before..
Recovery: 9 - excellent recovery from previous workouts.
Sleep Quality: 5 hours, but good and sorta my fault, up to late and woke early.
Appetite: 8 felt the need for a short but decent binge about an hour post dinner...


Tomorrow: Day off

Note: My last two workouts have definitely been better than the first 8....hoping that is a big sign!
 
Thanks Cam.. supposed to be going out on the town tonight... rumour has it Guiness is good for the system so I will try to stick to that! lol
 
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