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mondata

mondata

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One more Helladrol Log

Current Stats:
Height 5' 11"
Weight 208 - Ultimate goal ~195 by end of May (end of PCT)
Diet: ~2000 calories coming from approx. 220g Protein/140 g Carbs/40 g Fats

GOAL:
Utilize hella to assist in further cutting. I would like to retain the lean muscle mass I have and maybe add a few pounds which in turn will help in decreasing BF%. Ultimate goal is to decrease BF% over 6 week cycle + PCT.

Main Cycle:
Helladrol 75/75/75/75/100/100 *being so mild I decided to start at 75 and run up to 100
Forma-Stanzol 5/8/8/8/8/8 - split into 2 apps

Support:
Purus Labs Organ Shield (A.M.)
A.I. Life Support (P.M.)
NOW Blood Pressure Health
3 grams Taurine

Daily Supps:
Multi-vitamin
Fish Oil
CLA
Green Tea
Glucosamine/Chondroitin

PCT:
Serm: Torem 90/60/60/30
Anti-Estro: Forma-Stanzol 5/3/0/0
Anti-Estro: Erase 1/2/3/3/3/2/1 (Running 3 wks past DAA)
Natural Test Booster: Intimidate DAA 1/1/1/1
Cortisol Control: Lean Extreme 3/3/3/3
GDA: A.I. Glycobol 2/2/2/2

Extended PCT:
Bioforge V3 for 8 weeks

Workout
M: Chest and Tri's
T:Cardio and Abs
W: Back and Biceps
Th: Shoulders and Calves
Fri: Cardio and Abs
Sat: Legs
Sun: Cardio (usually Tennis for 2+ hours)

I will probably have to increase calories slightly but I want the scale (more importantly BF) to decrease over the course of the 6 weeks so I will still run under maintenance. We will see how hella works on a pure cut.
 
Week 1 Update:

Started at 50 mg last Sunday but bumped it up to 75mg on Tuesday. Currently taking the 50 mg dose around 7:00 am and the 25 mg about 6:00 p.m.

Thoughts:

Positives:
Not expecting too much this early but I have noticed a few things. Definitely have noticed an increase in libido. I am usually a 2/10 (yeah sucks) but lately I would say I am like a 7/10 so that's a positive as my wife's libido is a 11/10. The last two days I have noticed a slight increase in aggression and have felt more motivated in the gym. Since I started my weight has stayed about the same. I may have lost around a pound this week. Prior to starting I had lost at least 1.8 pounds each week for the past 10 weeks. I have definitely noticed an increase in appetite and have been eating slightly more than usual so this probably has some effect on my lack of weight loss this week. One other thing to note is muscle hardness. After my chest workout this week I noticed my chest was as hard as I have ever felt it. It felt amazing. Currently I have not had any back pumps but I am taking Taurine preworkout as a preventative.

Negatives:
Not really any negatives except maybe the increase in appetite (since I am on a cut) and some issues with sleep early one. The first few nights I took it I felt almost over-stimulated when I tried to sleep but I moved my PM dose up a few hours and have sleep fine since.

I will probably only update weekly until I really start to notice some significant changes. Just wanted to post up my findings for people who are interested in giving hella a try. I will post up some beginning and progress picks later on. Nothing visually significant to note right now.

Questions and Comments are welcome.

Thanks
 
Subd. I'm looking into running similar in few months, but to bulk. What's your bf% at the moment?
 
UKNoko said:
Subd. I'm looking into running similar in few months, but to bulk. What's your bf% at the moment?
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I am going to check it tonight. I started at 226 and 22% on Jan 9th and have worked my way down to 207.6. I really should have checked it last week. I would say I am around 17% right now +/- 0.5%.
 
Good luck but I suggest split the 75mg into 3 doses, mornig afternoon and night then during the 100mg do 1 morning 1 afternoon and 2 at night, you want your body in a consist anoblic state especially during the night .!
 
MrMarc said:
Good luck but I suggest split the 75mg into 3 doses, mornig afternoon and night then during the 100mg do 1 morning 1 afternoon and 2 at night, you want your body in a consist anoblic state especially during the night .!
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Thanks for the advice. My only issue with that would be taking my support supps. The consensus is to take them 4 hours after the PH dose.
 
mondata said:
Thanks for the advice. My only issue with that would be taking my support supps. The consensus is to take them 4 hours after the PH dose.
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I like the way your running erase brother that's exactly how I run it
 
mondata said:
Thanks for the advice. My only issue with that would be taking my support supps. The consensus is to take them 4 hours after the PH dose.
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Well if you don't mind going to bed at 9 or 10 then you could do the Liver supps then. Or 1 does in moring and afternoon liver supps then evening last 2 doses before bed. Also this is kinda my thought when I did my hdrol cycle I took in on a empty stomach and waited like 15-20min before I ate I did that to make sure the my pills had time to do its magic and get better obsord.
 
MrMarc said:
Well if you don't mind going to bed at 9 or 10 then you could do the Liver supps then. Or 1 does in moring and afternoon liver supps then evening last 2 doses before bed. Also this is kinda my thought when I did my hdrol cycle I took in on a empty stomach and waited like 15-20min before I ate I did that to make sure the my pills had time to do its magic and get better obsord.
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I have not been to bed before 10 in years. I usually hit the sack about 11:30 and get up at 7. Right now its 50 mg hella at 7:30 am with breakfast, liver supps at 12:00 pm with lunch, 25 mg hella at 5 pm, and then liver supps again around 10 pm with my protein shake before bed.
 
mondata said:
I am going to check it tonight. I started at 226 and 20.5% on Jan 9th and have worked my way down to 207.6. I really should have checked it last week. I would say I am around 17% right now +/- 0.5%.
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Well done. It'll be interesting to see how much you're going to progress with this.
 
UKNoko said:
Well done. It'll be interesting to see how much you're going to progress with this.
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The above quote is actually wrong:

On Jan 9th: 226 lbs and 22% (not 20.5%) BF
As of March 27th: 206.5 lbs and 18.5% BF

BF % should have gone down more but I have lost some muscle as well hence the reason I am bringing in the Hella. Hoping it will allow me to keep my muscle and even add a small amount while continuing to cut. Hoping for around 15% BF at the end of the 6 weeks which is very achievable. Would love to ultimately get down to 13% and stay there. I have been there before and loved the look
 
Sounds like an achievable goal to me.
One thing, I was looking at your macros break down. Is there any reason for getting more carbs in favour of fats?
I'd switch it around and keep carbs below 100g if you're cutting. But, someone more knowledgable esp. with Hella may be able to correct me.
 
I agree with UKNoko mate. Change your macros around, even drop carbs to 50 grams and with the Helladrol, the fat with shred off.
 
ozHarris said:
I agree with UKNoko mate. Change your macros around, even drop carbs to 50 grams and with the Helladrol, the fat with shred off.
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I am probably eating closer to 120 grams right now and 40-50 grams of fat. I do not eat any carbs the last two meals of the day but I know I could drop them further. I also am very active and have an active job so I need some carbs. I need to post up some pics to give you guys an idea of my build. Most of my fat is on my 'love handles', lower back, and a**.
 
Midweek Update:

Starting to feel lethargic in the afternoons (around 3-6). I thought it might be allergies but beginning to think its the hella as I have never quite felt like this before. Nevertheless, workouts have been fine. Still have not noticed anything significant except for muscle hardness. Maybe some very slight strength gains but again nothing significant. I did check my blood pressure today and it was slightly elevated at 144/70 so I may need to keep an eye on that. Its usually around 125/65. I had a bad headache all day so I thought it might be my blood pressure but it could also be allergy related as well.

I have made a few changes to my cycle. I got a bottle of AI Sports Glycobol and Life Support for $58 shipped so I will be using the glycobol instead of the slin sane and the life support instead of the AI cycle support as I cannot stand the taste of it. I will check back in Sunday with updates on the remaining part of the week as well as changes in weight.
 
Week 2 Update:

Been at 75 mg/day all week. Weight this morning was at 207.4 which is about 1 pound down from the start. My diet has been mediocre this week as we had some events to attend that involved eating.


Positives:
Definitely feeling very aggressive and somewhat irritable this week which can be both good and bad but I think the aggressiveness will help in the gym in the coming weeks. I have also felt that I look leaner in my stomach. Muscle fullness has been good and I have had great pumps in the gym especially in my chest and biceps. I still have not noticed a gain in strength but eating below maintenance will probably limit that. Still just hoping for a leaning effect and to be able to keep the muscle I have. I have not had any major sides or back pumps. That may change when I go to 100 mg but for now everything feels good.


Negatives:
The only negative I can think of would be the irritability. My wife asked me this week if something I was taking was making me ill lol.

Other Thoughts:
I will post starting pics and 3 week pics on the next update. I am really looking forward to weeks 4-6 as well as my PCT (yep I said it). The erase glycobol and lean extreme combo should lean me right up.

Questions and Comments are welcome.

Thanks
 
Week 3 Update:

Notes:
I decided to go ahead and log this now since I will be out of town visiting family all weekend. Been at 75 mg/day all week. Did not get a chance to weight this morning but I would say I am still right around 207-208. As promised I am posting pictures. The first one is of when I started cutting back on January 9th. I only put one up since this log is not about that but you can see I am working hard. The next few are from either 3 weeks ago when I started the hella cycle or from this morning (3 weeks in). As you can see although my weight has not changed at all I have leaned up a good bit. I think I am going to kick it to 100 mg/day the middle of next week and keep it there for the remaining time (roughly 2.5 weeks). Diet has been good this week (8/10 I would say). My appetite is crazy right now so I am really having to be careful with the quantity of food I eat. I have not missed a workout in 13 weeks and continue to be very motivated. I also purchased a water bottle that keep up with how much water you are consuming and have made sure to get a least a gallon in each day this week.

Positives:
Definitely starting to see some leaning going on especially around my belly and side (love handles). Recovery has been great but I have been a bit lethargic at times since the start. If I may down for a minute in the afternoon after work I instantly fall asleep. I am not the type to do this. I have started to notice some strength gains especially in my arms and chest.


Negatives:
Still some irritability issues. Lethargy as mentioned above as well as inconsistent sleep patterns. Looking at the pics it has been worth it though. We will see what happens at 100 mg/day/

Other Thoughts:
Looking forward to the final 3 weeks of my cycle. I think I will really lean up during my PCT with the compounds I am running and I am very happy about that.

Questions and Comments are welcome.

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Thanks
 
Good work mate. Definitely leaning up, will be interesting to see how upping the hela will go.
I start mine in 2 weeks and will go similar to you.. 50/75/75/100/100/100

Good luck..
 
Keep at bro, your doing good! For lethargy carbs will kill it and maybe try 125mg for the final 2 weeks or the last week providing that side are ok and you have enough pills.
 
ozHarris said:
How has this week gone so far?
Helladrol kicking in good yet?
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Helladrol is DEFINITELY kicking in man. Monday was back and bi's and I went up like 10-15 lbs on all lifts and 5 lbs on dumbbells for bicep curls. Today I hit chest and everything felt light. I started noticing it last week when I went from doing 80's for reps of 8 on dumbbell chest press to 100's for reps of 8. I am bumping to 100 mg/day tomorrow and staying at it for the remaining 2 1/2 weeks. I think this last few weeks could be awesome but I am battling some major lethargy issues right now. Everyday about 3:00 pm I hit a wall and feel like complete crap. It very annoying. Energy levels have been down but strength has been up. Its been weird. Any advice for the lethargy.

I will post a complete analysis of the week on Sunday but so far its been very successful.
 
mondata said:
Helladrol is DEFINITELY kicking in man. Monday was back and bi's and I went up like 10-15 lbs on all lifts and 5 lbs on dumbbells for bicep curls. Today I hit chest and everything felt light. I started noticing it last week when I went from doing 80's for reps of 8 on dumbbell chest press to 100's for reps of 8. I am bumping to 100 mg/day tomorrow and staying at it for the remaining 2 1/2 weeks. I think this last few weeks could be awesome but I am battling some major lethargy issues right now. Everyday about 3:00 pm I hit a wall and feel like complete crap. It very annoying. Energy levels have been down but strength has been up. Its been weird. Any advice for the lethargy.

I will post a complete analysis of the week on Sunday but so far its been very successful.
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Carbs kills lethargy, so up the carbs.
 
Airborne I think I sent you a thank you message hope you got it. :)


Well back to the topic. Good luck man and stick with it your doing good!!!!!
 
I started an entire new log because I did not like how I titled this one (one more log). I should have put what I was logging in the title to help others find it. I feel like I am going to get some great results in the next 2 1/2 weeks. Please subscribe to Mondata's helladrol log as I will be deleting this one in a few days. Thanks for coming along guys
 
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