Help me choose my first Ph cycle.

oogaly_boogal

oogaly_boogal

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Been studying for a while but no matter how much I read I can't decide.

Looking to cut/recomp, I cant compete for a few months so I might as well get aesthetic. Looking mainly for strength gains/hardening, can't afford "useless" muscle. I can't find Wintrol- V so I'm deciding between:



Epi + trenazone

Halovar + trenazone.

Would like to run tren ace + test prop + epi to skip the bull**** but tits are only fun on a woman.

Thanks brahs!
 
grngoloco said:
Hdrol/furaza-a
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Isn't furuza-a, DHT derivative? its androgenic, needs to be run at high dosages and coupled with Hdrol ....would make me lose hair.
 
yeah but I can run epi at a cheaper/lower dose vs 300mg of foruza plus I need my joints haha.

and its easier to get epi haha
 
oogaly_boogal said:
yeah but I can run epi at a cheaper/lower dose vs 300mg of foruza plus I need my joints haha.

and its easier to get epi haha
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That's true. As long as u know how your body takes it. What r u thinking for the doses of epi and trenazone?
 
oogaly_boogal said:
Isn't furuza-a, DHT derivative? its androgenic, needs to be run at high dosages and coupled with Hdrol ....would make me lose hair.
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I'm doing 20sdrol/50hdrol/400 furaza for two weeks then 100hdrol/400 furaza four more weeks ... then furaza 400 for the final four,, fyi also doing 500mg test cyp throughout
 
i may run the furuz, 2 bottles of katanodrol/hdrol should run 6 weeks, kinda pricey but I haven't used epi so not sure how i'd react.
 
oogaly_boogal said:
i may run the furuz, 2 bottles of katanodrol/hdrol should run 6 weeks, kinda pricey but I haven't used epi so not sure how i'd react.
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That'd be perfect,,, I went ahead and went all out with three bottles of kat,, but that was really unnecessary,,, I may end up saving the third bottle
 
nice nice, i can't decide on 4 or 6 weeks though, on one hand, I want to get shredded on the other I can't afford too much extra muscle growth (competitive athlete)
 
oogaly_boogal said:
Isn't furuza-a, DHT derivative? its androgenic, needs to be run at high dosages and coupled with Hdrol ....would make me lose hair.
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Furz is actually highly anabolic and mildly androgenic. Just like primo, var etc....regardless of being DHT drived.

I have my "OTC guys" run it at 300-400 mg/day alonside androHARD for a non methylated cutting stack.

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
Furz is actually highly anabolic and mildly androgenic. Just like primo, var etc....regardless of being DHT drived.

I have my "OTC guys" run it at 300-400 mg/day alonside androHARD for a non methylated cutting stack.

-Matt
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Hmm never considered this
 
MattPorter said:
Furz is actually highly anabolic and mildly androgenic. Just like primo, var etc....regardless of being DHT drived.

I have my "OTC guys" run it at 300-400 mg/day alonside androHARD for a non methylated cutting stack.

-Matt
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so it's something similar to anavar? I need something that would produce functional muscle vs visually appealing. What would be more androgenic if I may ask? something along the lines of winni-v?
 
oogaly_boogal said:
so it's something similar to anavar? I need something that would produce functional muscle vs visually appealing. What would be more androgenic if I may ask? something along the lines of winni-v?
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I believe Winstrol scores a anabolic:androgenic rating of 320/50 , Anavar scores 322/24 --- meaning both are nicely anabolic and lower androgenic.

Miotolan -- which is what furuz should act as -- has a rating of 274/80 or so......


-Matt
 
oh very nice, so in laymens terms, i should add some pretty good strength gains with this?

broke as a joke but loving the sounds of this right now.
 
How does this cycle sound
On:

katanadrol - 200/250/300/300/350/350
halo extreme - 0/25/50/50/50/50/50
includes "5a-hydrozy laxogenin5mg?"
Glycobol, cissus, EC (if BP allows for it)

milk thistle/ hawthorn berry, although my BP is 90/60 so not really worried....

pct: DAA, nolva 20/20/10/10, erase
 
oogaly_boogal said:
How does this cycle sound
On:

katanadrol - 200/250/300/300/350/350
halo extreme - 0/25/50/50/50/50/50
includes "5a-hydrozy laxogenin5mg?"
Glycobol, cissus, EC (if BP allows for it)

milk thistle/ hawthorn berry, although my BP is 90/60 so not really worried....

pct: DAA, nolva 20/20/10/10, erase
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More so muscle gains I would imagine since your cycle is highly anabolic and lower androgenic. If you DID add in a androgen l ike AndroHard or Trenavar, I think strength would be greater..

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
More so muscle gains I would imagine since your cycle is highly anabolic and lower androgenic. If you DID add in a androgen l ike AndroHard or Trenavar, I think strength would be greater..

-Matt
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Dammit! Haha. Thanks by the way for the help, im not trying to add too much muscle mass. I thought about androhard my only concerns are cost and dht.
 
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