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PMAG/PSTANZ advice?

rhv89

rhv89

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Looking to try a new cycle. Ive ran a few cycles in the past including epi and sd. I have 2 bottles of CELs pmag and 1 bottle of p-stanz on hand. I am coming off strep throat and some baaad exertion headaches that have dampered my diet and training. Before that I was at 180lbs and 8%bf. Im now sitting at about 170-175 and prob closer to 10 or 12%bf. Im gona get my strength n weight back up around 180 before I start this cycle. Ive never ran these two compunds before so I am not real sure what kind of goals to set. But with a florida trip coming up June1st, would like to get more vascular. I have a high metab so I wont neccessarily be trying to cut, however im getting a tad flabby in lower abdomen. I plan on running it similar to this:

Pmag: 50/75/75/75/75
Pstanz:0/100/150/200/250

Cycle assist 2wks before, through PCT. I have Tamox, Torem, Clomid, Letro all on hand lol. Ive messed up in the past and suffered the consequences. Also Have PES Erase and DAA.

My biggest concern is gyno. I am prone to it and def dont want to bust ass, only to take my shirt off and have a saggy tit lol. Any criticism would be great. Also just had a bottle of Clen thrown my way. Not sure how or if I should throw this into the mix.
 
Repping you for the " Ive messed up in the past and suffered the consequences"

Also, P-MAG is now banned, so take advantage of it :D
That cycle looks good my friend ran the same one,

If your prone to gyno,
EOD AI at .25mg is fair, on a PH i'd start off at .125 eod
 
or .25 e3d if .125 is too hard to dose.

ManBeast
 
no, added on to, i said "OR" not "instead of" I know i'd have trouble measuring out that dose with some of the research chems, and tabs out there.
 
So when you say "ai" i take it you are NOT referring to an otc like erase lol. So would aromasin or arimidex be best? I should be able to get either of the two, but have never ran either one. Suggestions?
 
uniifirex said:
Repping you for the " Ive messed up in the past and suffered the consequences"

Also, P-MAG is now banned, so take advantage of it :D
That cycle looks good my friend ran the same one,

If your prone to gyno,
EOD AI at .25mg is fair, on a PH i'd start off at .125 eod
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You say youve ran this cycle before.. What was your dosages? results? I didnt know if it was best to ramp up my pstanz or dose it at 150 throughout. I only have one bottle of it and I really doubt I bother buying another bottle of it for this particular cycle. An also, Is the Pmag dose look ok? I have two bottles of it so I may as well use it up on this cycle...seeing as I just learned it will be my LAST pmag cycle lol.
 
for pstanz alone at moderate dosages like that, I'm actually inclined to think that erase pro or forma stanzol would handle it well. You could start the erase pro at 1x eod or regular erase at 1x/day.
 
ManBeast said:
for pstanz alone at moderate dosages like that, I'm actually inclined to think that erase pro or forma stanzol would handle it well. You could start the erase pro at 1x eod or regular erase at 1x/day.
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Interesting... Well I have half a bottle of erase on hand. That would actually work out almost perfect If I were to take 1xday throughout this cycle. Will this affect gains tho? I wouldnt think that low of a dose would and even if it just slightly affected the gains I would take that over having gyno flare up on me.
 
AIs at low doses will only slightly affect gains, you could start it at 1 EoD for the first week until things start to ramp up and then go to ED. but be sure to support your joints when using an AI with pstanz! If your AI is affecting gains, you are probably using too much AI, and if you need that much AI to keep estrogen sides low, you are using too much gear ;)
 
rhv89 said:
You say youve ran this cycle before.. What was your dosages? results? I didnt know if it was best to ramp up my pstanz or dose it at 150 throughout. I only have one bottle of it and I really doubt I bother buying another bottle of it for this particular cycle. An also, Is the Pmag dose look ok? I have two bottles of it so I may as well use it up on this cycle...seeing as I just learned it will be my LAST pmag cycle lol.
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I did not run it, as said, my friend ran it. He ran 2 bottles and ran the same dosage, first week 50 rest 75.
Not the pstanz though, most of me and my mates stay away from stacking, but maybe erase pro if you'd like.
Start the stanz at the same time IMO.

Yeah if you have 2 bottles, you may as well use them, don't keep one lying around if your not gonna run it again, unless you can sell it to a mate or something.
 
Oh I gotcha. Yes I am going to try the 1xday of erase starting in week 2. Thanks to both of you for the feedback. I feel a lot better about this cycle and future cycles as well. One last thing I hoped someone could touch on, as I said in the OP I recently obtained a bottle of clen. I have some bf I would like to shed so I will most likely use this someitme before I hit the beach in June. I have read somewhat conflicting beliefs on using clen on cycle/during pct. I am kind of tempted to use it with this cycle. if I like it Ill try to snag another bottle closer to june. So would u guys think this would be smart/safe/effective? Would it be better in PCT? after?
 
ManBeast said:
AIs at low doses will only slightly affect gains, you could start it at 1 EoD for the first week until things start to ramp up and then go to ED. but be sure to support your joints when using an AI with pstanz! If your AI is affecting gains, you are probably using too much AI, and if you need that much AI to keep estrogen sides low, you are using too much gear ;)
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valid point. Ive got plenty of erase and plenty of joint support. Despit what I just said in the previous post, I think ill do 1 erase eod for the forst week or two, then 1xday for the latter weeks. Of course I will go up to one a day if I feel I need it. But back to your point, If I am having bad estro sides even with the ai dose, I will back off the gear doses. Thanks again for that
 
Eh, you can go up to the "bottle" dose on the erase of 3x/day before you need to back the gear down.

ManBeast
 
If your going to cycle and use clen, aim for LOOSING fat and KEEPING muscle, don't do the whole gaining weight loosing fat kind of thing its all BS.
If your going to run a thermogenic and a PH, besure to check your BP ever so often.

Personally have a sphygmomanometer myself

edit- many other ways to check BP but i keep it original :)
 
rhv89 said:
Oh I gotcha. Yes I am going to try the 1xday of erase starting in week 2. Thanks to both of you for the feedback. I feel a lot better about this cycle and future cycles as well. One last thing I hoped someone could touch on, as I said in the OP I recently obtained a bottle of clen. I have some bf I would like to shed so I will most likely use this someitme before I hit the beach in June. I have read somewhat conflicting beliefs on using clen on cycle/during pct. I am kind of tempted to use it with this cycle. if I like it Ill try to snag another bottle closer to june. So would u guys think this would be smart/safe/effective? Would it be better in PCT? after?
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you never try to cut during pct unless you want to lose your gains from your cycle. if you want to use clen, use it on cycle, not before, during pct, or after.
 
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