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6 week sd 6week epi bridge doctor monitor

Big billy

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Plain and simple, have a doctor willing to monitor blood on a weekly or more basis, going to run an 8 week cycle
Sd-10/10/10/10/0/0/0/0
Epi-0/0/0/20/20/20/30/40
I have been saving for this and stocking up on supports for about a year, also have been consulting with my m.d. For the same time. Most of wich was time convincing him to help. My pct consists of
Nolva20/20/20/10/10
And if needed
Clomid 100/100/50/50
With test booster, A.I., and supports
Doctor has also agreed to help with TRT if needed, and script anything ive forgotten. Im planning to start march 18th. And from now till then I will run liver detox supps to clean out any junk and prepare myself for damage.
Now, ive done reading on people doing lower dose sd cycles and haveing decent results, and I know im adding epi. The goal is to keep it fairly mild and make retainable gains the main goal. So, any thoughts on extending the sd and doseing the epi slightly lower at the bridge and then upping it toward the end. I will be using primordials superdrone, and CELs e stane.
 
As I was posting I relized I posted original idea, the 6 week of each would look like this
Sd-10/10/10/10/10/10/
Epi-0/0/0/20/20/20/20/30/40
Thats three weeks being on two methyls although lower dose. Maybe I should dump the epi to 10 while on sd and then up it, or drop the sd to 4 week. Also the sd is liquid so I could dose it at 5 no problem, and the epi I have two bottles 90ct at 10mg a pil, so I have.alot of leeway. Any suggests?
 
You'll be surprised to see what 10mg of superdrol can do to your bloodwork, I don't think I've ever seen someone get bloods done while on sdrol and not freak out
 
I'd start the nolva at 40mg unless you are also using the clomid (your post said if needed). Saturation is key in the first few days/week(s).

ManBeast
 
If you have bloodwork done weekly that will tell you exactly whats going on. You can run it until you feel its pushing it to far.
 
liftin4fun said:
If you have bloodwork done weekly that will tell you exactly whats going on. You can run it until you feel its pushing it to far.
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my thoughts exactly. I will def. post results as often as possible, and im gonna run clomid and nolva together. Also, debating on pushing it back another week or so, just to get the preload, and liver well taken care of. The last sd run I did, think back in 09' I remember that at the end of week three, my appetit went to hell, and remember drinking alot of water due to slight abdominal pains. Stopped the.run completely when my stool color started paleing out. I just want to make sure im as healthy as possible before going in. Esp. Since sd at this long a run is gonna take at least a few months of my lifespan, and trash my filtering organs. If I do decide to push it out, the latest date to start the run would be 24 ,25 of march. Still not sure. Baseline blood test might convince to just go for it. I am going to logthis run, but not going to list workouts, or meals. I will give an example of my macros before starting. Im still tweaking them a lil bit now, gaining as lean mass as I can natty till I start, and im only putting down 3750-3900 cals a day. Going to up them a week before the start, and then just keep adding as needed.
 
Also, I havent been following the forum the past year and change, any new ideas on carb intake, and fat intake while runnin sd. Im gonna keep the carbs fairly high, till I get bloated, and the fat mid range. Just didnt know if any revolutionary tips have risen in the past 14 months
 
Keep us updated! I'm interested to see how this goes..your'e lucky to have a doc willing to help
 
Big billy said:
Also, I havent been following the forum the past year and change, any new ideas on carb intake, and fat intake while runnin sd. Im gonna keep the carbs fairly high, till I get bloated, and the fat mid range. Just didnt know if any revolutionary tips have risen in the past 14 months
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I personally like 50/30/20 for bulking
 
ISU152 said:
Keep us updated! I'm interested to see how this goes..your'e lucky to have a doc willing to help
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Your doc wont help you out. I thought that was their job. Nah, im kidding, it took some convincing, but all said and done, I walked in and said "look, im doin this and it has a high probability of hurting me. I dont care what you say about the risks, im aware of them. Please help me live thro this" or something like that. He was the one who said I should check the blood weekly. I was going to just do pre and post. Hes by no means happy with me.
 
Big billy said:
Your doc wont help you out. I thought that was their job. Nah, im kidding, it took some convincing, but all said and done, I walked in and said "look, im doin this and it has a high probability of hurting me. I dont care what you say about the risks, im aware of them. Please help me live thro this" or something like that. He was the one who said I should check the blood weekly. I was going to just do pre and post. Hes by no means happy with me.
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Well I've never stacked or bridged 2 methyls, nor have I injected. Therefor I have found no reason to do bloods every week. Nice to see that a doc is willing to help even when they aren't completely happy with your decisions. Do you know when you'll be starting this cycle?
 
I like having the carbs a lil higher. After cycles I usually drop them down and raise the fats. I just feel better when theyre closer to like 45%, I feel like a gain more. Prolly just glycogen, or fat.
 
ISU152 said:
Well I've never stacked or bridged 2 methyls, nor have I injected. Therefor I have found no reason to do bloods every week. Nice to see that a doc is willing to help even when they aren't completely happy with your decisions. Do you know when you'll be starting this cycle?
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Yeah, march 18-25, somewhere around then. im preloading now, and runnin a liver detox. Also depends on ar***** of one of the serms im using. Im not gonna start till I have.both in hand, dont care if I got a doc or not. All I need is for him to jerk me around, or go on vacation, right when I need him most.
 
Everythings on track althou the doc is tryin to convince me to run sd solo for six weeks, as hes been doin a little research on the compound. Clomid and adex came yesterday, and supports are stocked. Nolva is set to expire halfway thro run, any thoughts on if I should worry? Gettin amped, going to take it easy now till then, and try if I can, to take 8 days.off completley right before I start. Update if I change anything, otherwise, see ya in a few weeks.
 
Big billy said:
Everythings on track althou the doc is tryin to convince me to run sd solo for six weeks, as hes been doin a little research on the compound. Clomid and adex came yesterday, and supports are stocked. Nolva is set to expire halfway thro run, any thoughts on if I should worry? Gettin amped, going to take it easy now till then, and try if I can, to take 8 days.off completley right before I start. Update if I change anything, otherwise, see ya in a few weeks.
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Your doctor won't uncover anything positive from his superdrol research, what is he looking for?
 
jaydollars said:
Your doctor won't uncover anything positive from his superdrol research, what is he looking for?
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He know that there isnt positive reading on such a harsh compound. I laid it down for him on the severity of the cycle. I actually just got off the phone with him now. He , is seriously stressing that I only take one compound on the first run. He told me he would feel more comfortable monitoring the one compound first and after pct and a long rest between, then testing two together. He consulted a few of his m.d. Buddies and determined, due to my health at the moment, running a very different cycle then ive seen in a long time. Hes suggested a sd only ran as:
10/10/20/30/20/10
That would be 6 weeks , with a higher dose in the middle. Now, I have a crap load of support supps, everything from, lethragy, back pumps, libido, liver, blood press., cholest levels, sexual disfunction. I also have two serms, two medicinal A.I.s , hcg, medical canabanoid pills for appetite, test boosters(4), and a few other repeats that are multiple OTC items rooled into one pill or dropper.
I would obiously start a new thread if I decided to run this cycle instead of the stack, and ive been seriously considering switching. One, to make my doc happy, and two, to really assess the potency and toxicity of the sd clone im running. The clone is superxrone by primordial.
My reason for considering is the fact that I already have my appointments schedualed with my doc, including blood work. And that if, or should I say when, I mess myself up, this might be the last time my doc considers helping me poison myself. His confindence is high about me walking away, fairly unscathed. He did say recovery is going to be alot of checkups. Hes more worried about the quickness of recovery, for the fact that, the quicker I recover the less the long term damage would be.
He also asked that I come in friday, inorder to sign a contract stateing that he isnt responsible if I choose to keep going, if for any reason he tells me to stop. He also stated, when asked, if for any reason im hospitalized, I would be held responsible for the bill, cause insurance wont cover me if he lays it down for them.
I havent seen a cycle like this since the ban in 04', I think I might do it
 
Starting this weekend, dropping the epi, and adding mlmg for the first four weeks. Dosing the superdrone at 10mg a day, and aiming for the full 6 weeks, but is dependant on blood tests. first test is friday, to get a baseline before, will post as soon as possible. Not sure how often im going to update, shooting for three times a week, but def. once a week. will post bloods as often as i can. looking foreward to this run.
 
liftin4fun said:
At least post the blood work once a week for us. Very interested in this.
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Thats the goal, the issues i could run into are the following, one-my scanner likes to decide when it wants to scan in a legible manner, and is semi easy to fix, just takes time to keep scanning and powering off, and two- if my copays start to increase due to the amount of tests in a given time, it will be smarter in my opinion to save the tests for every week towards the end, as this is when the levels would start to change more drastically. so in the beginning it will be , Base test, wk1 test, wk3 test, wk5 and wk6 test, and hopefully a week four test. so really i will only miss wk2, but now im thinking i should get the base line and then get first test in wk2 and miss out on wk1 where there prolly wont be mush if any change. Any thoughts?
 
Sample diet:
Meal 1 @ 7AM-
-5 eggs
-2 English muffins
-1 bowl cream of wheat
- 2 glasses whole milk
Meal 2 @930 AM- Shake add all together
-1 cup ground dry oatmeal
-2 scoops dry whey protein
-3 TBLSP peanut butter
-1 teaspoon maple syrup
-2 cups whole milk
Meal 3 @ 12 noon-
-2 peanut butter and jelly sandwiches (overstuffed) on wheat bread
-2 scoops whey protein in water
-1 banana
-1 pear
-1 sport drinks i.e. Gatorade, PowerAde
Meal 4 @ 230-
-2 cans tuna fish
-2 cups milk
-coffee
Meal 5 @ 4PM-
-1 chicken sandwich
6-7oz Chicken breast, lettuce, tomato, mayo, on hard roll
-1 serving dried fruit
-2 cups soda
Meal 6 @ 630-
-1 10 oz. steak, either rib eye or porterhouse cut
-1 cup broccoli with butter and lemon pepper
-1.5 servings mashed potatoes with garlic and brown gravy
Meal7 @ 9 PM-
-2 serving’s cottage cheese with sugar
-2 cups milk
- 2 scoops casein protein

Sample, wish I could eat steak every night, sometimes switch it up with salmon, and I skip cottage cheese a couple nights a week, hate the stuff. And some days I don’t get all 8 glasses of milk down, esp. when I start feeling bloated, so that changes to water. I always put at least 5 down a day. I also run out of fruit quite often, and am horrible at remembering to get more. My wife is the one who got me to start eating it often, so she should get it for me, but that’s just an excuse. And there are times my wife makes my sandwiches for noon, so they aren’t as stuffed as I make them. All things considered, this is approximately 4500-5000 cals a day.
176 fat, 532 carb, 238 prot. With a few more protein if I get the cottage cheese in. I have almost worked up to this amount daily, tomorrow will be the first day at 4500, today I’m shooting for 4000 maybe 4200. I tend to eat a little over on gym days, but make sure I hit at least 4500 on non liftn days. The hardest part for me is keeping the cals up in week 4-6 I have a real hard time with it once I’m walking around feeling like a water balloon just rolling on the floor. I seem to get back into the swing the first week of pct. tho. I am going to try as hard as I can to keep the cals at 4500 throughout pct. That’s another flaw of mine, I start feeling suffice at 3900-4200, and although that’s not bad, I want to keep as much weight on as I can for as long as I can.
 
So scanners already givin me greif. Got tech support (wife) working on the problem, but here are the results from yesterdays base test. Some numbers look a little bit higher than i wouldve thought, for the amount of time that i was preloading supports. Also my wife said that the numbers look as if they dont add up 100%, i guess your AST is supposed to be different from ALT by a larger margin? Any body have more experience with this? Is it possible test was contaminated or f^cked up somehow?
Bilirubin - 0.6 (0.1-1.2)
Alk. Phosph – 60 (25-150)
AST – 30 (0-40)
ALT - 38 (0-55)
Cholesterol- 164 (150 – 220)
HDL- 60 (> 55)
LDL- 72 (< 120)
Triglycerides- 79 (70 – 110)
 
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