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H-drol cycle advice

NutriHigh

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Hi,
Sorry for this being my first post and all but I'm new to all this and would just like to make sure I have everything correct.

I would like to start a 6 week CEL H-drol only cycle at 50/75/75/75/75/75 (possibly upping to 100 on the last 2 weeks, and may just start off using 75 on week 1)

For a 4 week PCT, I have:
Nolva 40/40/20/20 (or 20/20/10/10?) - also it's the liquid kind that's a research chemical, is that okay? (also, sorry if I'm breaking the rules by mentioning it's a research chemical, I know sources aren't supposed to be posted so I hope I'm not saying too much)
Erase - I guess just 1 pill a day, for cortisol control
DAA- again, I guess just 1 scoop a day, I don't know too much about this other than it's just a natty test booster

During the entire cycle I'll being using Liv. 52 for liver support and animal flex for joint support

Does everything look good? I've heard H-drol is pretty mild so I'm hoping this will be okay. Any recommendations greatly appreciated.
 
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Looks like you got all you need for your cycle. If you can afford to dose up to 100 for the last too weeks it might be a good idea. I liked 100mgs. Good strength gains.
I would dose nolva 40/40/20/10. Should be good. I have seen some dose lower because some say that above 20mgs it's not anymore effective. No one really knows for sure though. I would just stick to your plan. DAA should be at 3GS a day for pct. That is usually the standard dose so I hope that is what one scoop is equivalent to. I'd check the supplement serving size for confirmation. Liv52 is good enough for liver support but you might consider need2guard for a later cycle as it is a more complete health supplement that doesn't only protect the liver but helps lipid values, kidney, and heart health. But for now that should be good enough. Hdrol is mild. Erase is usually taken at about week 3 of pct. So is most cortisol and AI products. Might want to wait till then.

Maybe try this:

Hdrol
75/75/75/100/100/100


Pct
Serm
40/40/20/20
Erase
0/0/3/3/2/1

And run your liver support throughout pct as nolva is liver toxic as well.
Any questions you can pm me or ask on here. I'll be happy to help.
 
Thanks! I think I'll change the Liv. 52 to need2guard, better safe than sorry I guess. And I'll probably suck it up and buy 3 bottles instead of 2 so I can up the dosage to 100mg the last 2 or 3 weeks.
 
NutriHigh said:
Thanks! I think I'll change the Liv. 52 to need2guard, better safe than sorry I guess. And I'll probably suck it up and buy 3 bottles instead of 2 so I can up the dosage to 100mg the last 2 or 3 weeks.
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Good choice man! Have a fun and safe cycle ;)
 
check ou my helladrol cycle log Invalid Link Removed... this should help to guide you a bit through your cycle...

like my boy mattrag said, you want to get those doses of helladrol up to 100 at least by week 4 if your not experiencing sides... Here's how I ended up dosing it 75/75/75/75/100/125...

I would recommend going with Helladrol over Cel H-drol if you haven't already ordered it... You also need to get your support supps... You need to get N2Guard... Also you need fish oil while running the helladrol... I started forma stanzol mid cycle as well... Its an AI but it also shredded me up very nicely...

Now, as far as your PCT, you are correct about not making the comment you made... I would be extra careful with that on this forum... Nolva is fine, although I much prefer Torem... Either way you are good to go... You want to take you DAA first thing in the morning on an empty stomach... I also would run the forma stanzol all the way through pct... you also would be greatly benefited using Need2Slin and Lean Xtreme in your PCT... I also am using creatine nitrate...

This will go for a strong cycle... You can get most of these at mrsupps.com and needtobuildmuscle.com... your coupon codes are as follows... Needto10 at Mrsupps.com for 10% off and free shipping... at needtobuildmuscle.com use Needto139 for 15% off and free shipping... Your helladrol and formastanzol will be at mrsupps and your n2guard, daa, need2slin will be at needtobuildmuscle.com... if you have anymore questions let me know
 
Thanks! I haven't ordered H-drol yet so I'll definitely look into helladrol. Only thing I have already is nolva, rest of the stuff I still need to purchase. I'll look in to all of it, need2slin sounds pretty useful, but I probably can't buy everything as I'm on a slight budget. I was considering forma stanzol earlier too and still may get it, especially since you recommended it; the only thing I'm worried about is the price, I'm not exactly the richest guy in the world :).
 
i can definitely understand that... i would wait until i had the money to get everything that you need... you don't want to run a half a$$ cycle bro... wait until you can get everything... i guess, to me, if your going to run a cycle, you want to go all out... its totally up to you, just my thoughts... if you need any help, let me know!


NutriHigh said:
Thanks! I haven't ordered H-drol yet so I'll definitely look into helladrol. Only thing I have already is nolva, rest of the stuff I still need to purchase. I'll look in to all of it, need2slin sounds pretty useful, but I probably can't buy everything as I'm on a slight budget. I was considering forma stanzol earlier too and still may get it, especially since you recommended it; the only thing I'm worried about is the price, I'm not exactly the richest guy in the world :).
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NutriHigh said:
Thanks! I haven't ordered H-drol yet so I'll definitely look into helladrol. Only thing I have already is nolva, rest of the stuff I still need to purchase. I'll look in to all of it, need2slin sounds pretty useful, but I probably can't buy everything as I'm on a slight budget. I was considering forma stanzol earlier too and still may get it, especially since you recommended it; the only thing I'm worried about is the price, I'm not exactly the richest guy in the world :).
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Need2slin is definitely pricey. The Hella drol though is a great deal! Hmm, if I had to decide I would go with helladrol, forma stanzol. Need2slin is amazing, but it's not gonna help your return to your hormone levels and give you a boost in test and balance out estrogen like an AI is going to do. N2siln will make nutrition go to the right places though. Like I said, good luck bro!
 
Yeah, I just did a bit of googling, and apparently H-drol and helladrol are the same compound, helladrol just gives 3x as much for less than twice the price. So it looks like I'll definitely be going with helladrol. I think I'll dish out the money for need2slin and possibly forma stanzol and some of the other supps mentioned as well, since I'll save a bit of money switching to helladrol. Whatever will put on the most mass is ideally what I'd like to do (though minimizing fat gains would def be a plus), since I don't get too concerned about my body fat until we get closer to summer. H-drol/helladrol I guess aren't exactly bulkers, but I've never done a PH before so I'm trying to start mild to see how I react to it.

Thanks a ton for both of your help!
 
75mg is not a bad starting point but if its your first time using hdrol you could probably see good results starting with 50mg the first few weeks. First time i used hdrol i did the first few weeks at 50 and didnt bump up to 75 till week 3 to 4 and i had great results for my first cycle. I even finished at 75 and it turned out good. But thats just my opinion and my experience, everyone reacts differently. This is the kind of thing you learn as you go because you dont know how your body will react till you use it. Good luck
 
NutriHigh said:
Yeah, I just did a bit of googling, and apparently H-drol and helladrol are the same compound, helladrol just gives 3x as much for less than twice the price. So it looks like I'll definitely be going with helladrol. I think I'll dish out the money for need2slin and possibly forma stanzol and some of the other supps mentioned as well, since I'll save a bit of money switching to helladrol. Whatever will put on the most mass is ideally what I'd like to do (though minimizing fat gains would def be a plus), since I don't get too concerned about my body fat until we get closer to summer. H-drol/helladrol I guess aren't exactly bulkers, but I've never done a PH before so I'm trying to start mild to see how I react to it.

Thanks a ton for both of your help!
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True, but you can bulk on Hdrol. Basically, hormones are just going to enhance anything you do. Some have specific properties that make it easier to bulk/cut (while some may elevate estrogen to be high enough to limit fat loss). I have used it in a bulk and got really good gains off of it. Dylan there used it on a lean bulk/recomp and got some good gains while training his butt off and eating around maintenance calories. (I think he ate around his maintenance)
 
You know, I probably don't even eat enough for what is recommended and I have put on 15 lbs on my helladrol cycle and my body fat is pretty much the same... now, i work out like a crazy mothafer but you should be doing that anyway... check out my helladrol log and you will see how i did everything...

mattrag said:
True, but you can bulk on Hdrol. Basically, hormones are just going to enhance anything you do. Some have specific properties that make it easier to bulk/cut (while some may elevate estrogen to be high enough to limit fat loss). I have used it in a bulk and got really good gains off of it. Dylan there used it on a lean bulk/recomp and got some good gains while training his butt off and eating around maintenance calories. (I think he ate around his maintenance)
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21"GunSalute said:
75mg is not a bad starting point but if its your first time using hdrol you could probably see good results starting with 50mg the first few weeks. First time i used hdrol i did the first few weeks at 50 and didnt bump up to 75 till week 3 to 4 and i had great results for my first cycle. I even finished at 75 and it turned out good. But thats just my opinion and my experience, everyone reacts differently. This is the kind of thing you learn as you go because you dont know how your body will react till you use it. Good luck
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Yeah, I think I'll at least start week 1 at 50 and see how I react from there. Never used a ph/aas so hopefully it all goes well, but you never know. If I don't have much sides at 50, I'll up to 75, and maybe 100 if there aren't many sides at 75. Thanks!

mattrag said:
True, but you can bulk on Hdrol. Basically, hormones are just going to enhance anything you do. Some have specific properties that make it easier to bulk/cut (while some may elevate estrogen to be high enough to limit fat loss). I have used it in a bulk and got really good gains off of it. Dylan there used it on a lean bulk/recomp and got some good gains while training his butt off and eating around maintenance calories. (I think he ate around his maintenance)
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Yeah I saw his log, great lean gains, I was actually surprised hella worked that well considering how mild it is. I plan to eat a bit above maintenance and significantly increase protein intake (I'm probably getting around 200g/day currently, though over half of it comes from shakes and the milk in said shakes :/, I'll up it to 250 and maybe 300 for closer to 1.5g/lb body weight). Also, would using forma stanzol affect lean mass gains? To be honest I didn't research AIs very much, so I'm not sure exactly what effect it'll have.
 
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i am a certified nutritionist too so i can always be of help with your diet as well...




NutriHigh said:
Yeah, I think I'll at least start week 1 at 50 and see how I react from there. Never used a ph/aas so hopefully it all goes well, but you never know. If I don't have much sides at 50, I'll up to 75, and maybe 100 if there aren't many sides at 75. Thanks!



Yeah I saw his log, great lean gains, I was actually surprised hella worked that well considering how mild it is. I plan to eat a bit above maintenance and significantly increase protein intake (I'm probably getting around 200g/day currently, though over half of it comes from shakes and the milk in said shakes :/, I'll up it to 250 and maybe 300 for closer to 1.5g/lb body weight). Also, would using forma stanzol affect lean mass gains? To be honest I didn't research AIs very much, so I'm not sure exactly what effect it'll have.
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dylangemelli said:
check this out (link)

i am a certified nutritionist too so i can always be of help with your diet as well...
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Cool, thanks! I don't really have any set nutrition plan I follow, but I make sure to do the 6 meals a day, and get around 200g protein, with as many complex carbs as possible.
 
dylangemelli said:
while your on cycle, you need to get 2 grams of protein per lb you weight...
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Ok, yeah I was planning on upping my protein because of the increased protein synthesis, but I wasn't sure by how much. I try to get as much protein as I can from sources like meat, milk and eggs but if I need to up it to 370g, a lot of that is prob going to end up being from whey/casein powder.
 
Good luck on your cycle! I just started my third week and I love it. I'm running 75/75/75/100/100/125 and i'm seeing awesome gains and changes with my body.
 
scjordan said:
Good luck on your cycle! I just started my third week and I love it. I'm running 75/75/75/100/100/125 and i'm seeing awesome gains and changes with my body.
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GLad you are enjoying it! If you got any questions just hit up the board. Loads of knowledge here.
 
scjordan said:
What are yall taking to prevent Gyno? Is Gyno something i should be worried about while on cycle?
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Not really, not on hdrol anyway. Forma stanzol is a powerful AI that can take down estrogen levels.
Basically just make sure your PCT is solid. a SERM, DAA, Test booster. Extra's would be an AI, cort control. But the first 2 are a must usually. OTC pct is pretty rough.... Not cost effective IMO.
 
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