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2 Options....Will You Help Me Pick Please

cubbiefan

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My Stats: I am 6 foot, 190 pounds, 17% bodyfat.

Me and my roommate are going to be doing a cycle very soon. I need help deciding between IBE epistane or CEL H-DROL.

Here are my goals: I want to lean out some while putting on muscle.
My Experience: None, I am new to pro hormone and is why I want some of your advice.

So with all this said, let me have it!
 
Drop 5% bodyfat before you cycle. There you have it.
 
Yea, you're tubby. Lower bf% = better results. It's a steroid not a fat burner.
 
Anytime you start a new cycle you want to be at 15% body fat at the highest... that being said... I would not run epi for my first cycle... here is what I would recommend... Go to Mr. Supps and buy yourself some helladrol... same thing as cel hdrol but comes more highly recommended... then get yourself some N2Guard from needtobuildmuscle.com for your support supps while on cycle... check out my helladrol log to see the results from helladrol... it is a great ph... what are you going to do for your pct?
 
you look to be 17%bf You should run oxyelite pro for fat loss works great!! as for your question I would go with epi(I did't try it) but I did hdrol couple years back gained 5-7 pounds.
 
would you think i was close to 15%?

for pct i am still working on it..but i would like to throw forma in somewhere. maybe run the bioforge also. any suggestions...post cycle support & on cycle support
 
you need a serm... I prefer torem however you will get a bunch of mixed ideas on what to run but I believe that is the best... for helladrol i would go with torem or nolva... I started forma halfway through my cycle and will continue it through pct... Ostarine will help keep gains but you don't necessarily have to use that... you need DAA as well for your test boost... I would also recommend Need2Slin as well for PCT...

cubbiefan said:
would you think i was close to 15%?

for pct i am still working on it..but i would like to throw forma in somewhere. maybe run the bioforge also. any suggestions...post cycle support & on cycle support
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dylangemelli said:
Anytime you start a new cycle you want to be at 15% body fat at the highest... that being said... I would not run epi for my first cycle... here is what I would recommend... Go to Mr. Supps and buy yourself some helladrol... same thing as cel hdrol but comes more highly recommended... then get yourself some N2Guard from needtobuildmuscle.com for your support supps while on cycle... check out my helladrol log to see the results from helladrol... it is a great ph... what are you going to do for your pct?
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He's 100% right on all that. I used hdrol twice and think its the best one, but thats my opinion. Great gains and easy pct, kept about all of it also.
 
I have ran both epi, and h-drol with about the same results. I never had sides off either, gains were easy to keep, and there both mild on the liver. Some will swear by Epi, Some H-drol, Both imo with a good diet can be used as a cutter.
I think either one will work for you.

If you want to rough guess your body fat there ar alot of free bf calculators out there just google them and have a tape mesure on hand.

JP.
 
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