androhard for gyno

would androhard/DHT type hormones help reduce phuffy breast tissue/nips as well or does it mostly just reduce gland size?
 
heebs10 said:
would androhard/DHT type hormones help reduce phuffy breast tissue/nips as well or does it mostly just reduce gland size?
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Both -- you need to suck the puff out of those suckers!

Estrogen imbalances trigger that feminine puffy look...

Nothing worse than having your GF say she's turned off by your puffy nipples!

Sadly I have had this happen:(

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
Both -- you need to suck the puff out of those suckers!

Estrogen imbalances trigger that feminine puffy look...

Nothing worse than having your GF say she's turned off by your puffy nipples!

Sadly I have had this happen:(

-Matt
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thanks ryan and matt.

one other question: your site says "AndroHard has an average bio-active value of 200mg/week injectable DHT enanthate -- more than enough androgenic activity to block and reverse breast tissue growth" right under the subtitle that says "saving your chest with androhard." my question is how many softgels are being taken per day to reach this average 200mg/wk of DHT? is that at like 3 gels or more like 6?



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biggfly said:
So which of the 2 aforementioned products is more effective....D-Zine or Stanodrol?? What dosing protocol per day/overall cycle period??
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bump...or AH or MMV3?? Or Winny, and without the hair and prostate issues of DHT due to no conversion to 5-aa??
 
heebs10 said:
thanks ryan and matt.

one other question: your site says "AndroHard has an average bio-active value of 200mg/week injectable DHT enanthate -- more than enough androgenic activity to block and reverse breast tissue growth" right under the subtitle that says "saving your chest with androhard." my question is how many softgels are being taken per day to reach this average 200mg/wk of DHT? is that at like 3 gels or more like 6?



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I was doing the math on this same question a few weeks back.....their study for gyno reversal they used said it used 130mg DHT per week avg or thereabouts (it was injectible but just saying if you compare 'amounts')......and 6 of the AH softgels are 200mg per week.....so I theorized that 4 gels equals the study amount. But the reps said take the 6 per day, its best.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
I was doing the math on this same question a few weeks back.....their study for gyno reversal they used said it used 130mg DHT per week avg or thereabouts (it was injectible but just saying if you compare 'amounts')......and 6 of the AH softgels are 200mg per week.....so I theorized that 4 gels equals the study amount. But the reps said take the 6 per day, its best.
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now that you mention it, i think i did do the math on that once before but i guess i had completely forgotten. im pretty sure i came up with the same conclusion as well. thanks
 
heebs10 said:
thanks ryan and matt.

one other question: your site says "AndroHard has an average bio-active value of 200mg/week injectable DHT enanthate -- more than enough androgenic activity to block and reverse breast tissue growth" right under the subtitle that says "saving your chest with androhard." my question is how many softgels are being taken per day to reach this average 200mg/wk of DHT? is that at like 3 gels or more like 6?



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6 caps/day.
 
heebs10 said:
thanks ryan and matt.

one other question: your site says "AndroHard has an average bio-active value of 200mg/week injectable DHT enanthate -- more than enough androgenic activity to block and reverse breast tissue growth" right under the subtitle that says "saving your chest with androhard." my question is how many softgels are being taken per day to reach this average 200mg/wk of DHT? is that at like 3 gels or more like 6?



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You have to look at many aspects here, since the study used DHT your best bet is AH since you would need an absurd amount of stano to equal the same amount.
 
ryansm said:
You have to look at many aspects here, since the study used DHT your best bet is AH since you would need an absurd amount of stano to equal the same amount.
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stano is 50mg a pill i see ppl dose it at 150 often in a stack but what realistically should you dose it at solo or in a mild hdrol stack? i am not worried about the DHT just wondering about stano while we are on the subject.
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
stano is 50mg a pill i see ppl dose it at 150 often in a stack but what realistically should you dose it at solo or in a mild hdrol stack? i am not worried about the DHT just wondering about stano while we are on the subject.
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stano is basically winny to be honest, and its why u have to dose it so high to get a "effect"........

if it were AAS, winny is only used by athletes or by pre contest because it is so light and gets rid of water weight.......thats why the chubbier guys like it. i used to love it when i was bulky, but i learned its all about total test in your system.

you guys should stack the stano with some SD, now that would be like a anavar/winny stack........great for summer
 
I was wondering how much stano equals how much oral winny ? for instance if you wanted to do 50mg per day winny, how many stano do you take? and also how many to equal 100mg per day winny? I used to do 100 mg per day of winny and it was great. I know many think that is too much.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
I was wondering how much stano equals how much oral winny ? for instance if you wanted to do 50mg per day winny, how many stano do you take? and also how many to equal 100mg per day winny? I used to do 100 mg per day of winny and it was great. I know many think that is too much.
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to be honest, probably every 2 equals 1 winny
 
PVL said:
epi is probably about the same compared to var........var is wonderful, so is epi.........i look awesome when i run those
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I never felt I responded well to anavar for some reason....and I (for the most part) had the sealed QV anavar and I checked them to be sure they were not fakes either. Maybe I didn't take enough, it was expensive and you tend to take less due to the cost.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
I never felt I responded well to anavar for some reason....and I (for the most part) had the sealed QV anavar and I checked them to be sure they were not fakes either. Maybe I didn't take enough, it was expensive and you tend to take less due to the cost.
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yeah var is pretty expensive, but if you take 60-80mg a day............WOW, you can SEE a difference in a couple days, it melts off the fat like butter, then stack it with t3 and some winny..............you will love it
 
PVL said:
yeah var is pretty expensive, but if you take 60-80mg a day............WOW, you can SEE a difference in a couple days, it melts off the fat like butter, then stack it with t3 and some winny..............you will love it
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ANYTHING stacked with winny is great lol....but yeah, I think I was taking around 50-60 MAX and I bet I shyed away from even that much most of the time and went 50 (or less), we all make stupid mistakes....Anavar or oral winny are a few things I would still use today if I had them.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
ANYTHING stacked with winny is great lol....but yeah, I think I was taking around 50-60 MAX and I bet I shyed away from even that much most of the time and went 50 (or less), we all make stupid mistakes....Anavar or oral winny are a few things I would still use today if I had them.
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PM me
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
ANYTHING stacked with winny is great lol....but yeah, I think I was taking around 50-60 MAX and I bet I shyed away from even that much most of the time and went 50 (or less), we all make stupid mistakes....Anavar or oral winny are a few things I would still use today if I had them.
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pm me
 
PVL said:
yeah var is pretty expensive, but if you take 60-80mg a day............WOW, you can SEE a difference in a couple days, it melts off the fat like butter, then stack it with t3 and some winny..............you will love it
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My cycle will be closing off with some var/androhard. Very much looking forward to this.
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
stano is 50mg a pill i see ppl dose it at 150 often in a stack but what realistically should you dose it at solo or in a mild hdrol stack? i am not worried about the DHT just wondering about stano while we are on the subject.
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I've seen the best responses from feedback and my own use at over 800mgs, that's why AH is so great it is dosed at 1200mgs per serving plus the insanely high absorption rate.
 
Not sure how AndroHard / stanodrol is being compared to winny? Winny is very ANABOLIC while Stano/AndroHard is overly androgenic and not so anabolic.

Just because the steroid is a DHT derivative does not mean it is extremely anndrogenic or binds hard to the AR --in fact, winny binds very poorly to the AR yet has anabolic effects unrelated to AR binding affinity.

I suppose Stano or AndroHard would be more accurately compared to a proviron or methyl stanolone. I see winstrol being able to build more muscle due to the anabolic properties.

Either way -- stano, AndroHard, winstrol all work and are all DHT based steroid hormones.

-Matt
 
ryansm said:
You have to look at many aspects here, since the study used DHT your best bet is AH since you would need an absurd amount of stano to equal the same amount.
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thank you sir! so i picked up a couple AH during the new years sale (great deal btw!). im currently on 2.5mg letro daily and it has provided some decent reduction in size of lumps, sensitivity, and reduced the degree of puffyness. i only have minor puffyness right around the nip at times and the lumps are not visibly noticeable. lumps are roughly just larger then a pea at the moment.

anyways, i was considering bridging right into AH from my letro. my thoughts are that this would essentially eliminate the chance of gyno rebound as a result of the androgenic nature of AH keeping the estro at bay rather then obliterated (as is often seen when tapering off a potent AI, since i will still be on AH after the letro ends), while the AH is simultaneously further reducing lump size and nip puffyness.

would this be a good way to approach this (bridge right from letro into AH)? and if i did bridge the letro right into AH, im assuming it would indeed still be a good idea to taper the letro down rather then abruptly stop taking the letro once on AH?

Or, would you suggest slowly tapering off the letro completely prior to beginning the AH cycle...so that there is not any letro/AH over lap? or possibly slowly come of letro completely, wait and allow hormones to return to more homeiostatic levels, then begin AH to further reduce lumps/puffyness?
 
I'll be starting my 16 week AndroHard V3 log soon. I was going to start today but i'll wait until monday due to a busy schedule.
 
Jorsn said:
I'll be starting my 16 week AndroHard V3 log soon. I was going to start today but i'll wait until monday due to a busy schedule.
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16 weeks, interested in seeing this.
 
Jorsn said:
I'll be starting my 16 week AndroHard V3 log soon. I was going to start today but i'll wait until monday due to a busy schedule.
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are you running it for gyno reduction? what sort of pct are you thinking about running?
 
im on week of Dzine at 45mg and boy oh boy is it fun. one of the fun things is its completly gotten rid of any lump or puff. instead of clomid and erase for pct i will use Torem and armoasin
 
Jorsn said:
I'll be starting my 16 week AndroHard V3 log soon. I was going to start today but i'll wait until monday due to a busy schedule.
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how are you going to be dosing it?

also very excited to follow this
 
MattPorter said:
Jorsn,

Are you going to take pics to document this 16 week trial?

-Matt
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You know it. Taking a pic every week for 52 weeks. My expectations are VERY realistic. So don't expect to see any of... "its been 3 days and i'm not ripped yet" haha. This will be a very honest log. Androhard isn't some miracle drug. But I think I will respond very well.. Especially since its a 16 week cycle.
 
Jorsn said:
You know it. Taking a pic every week for 52 weeks. My expectations are VERY realistic. So don't expect to see any of... "its been 3 days and i'm not ripped yet" haha. This will be a very honest log. Androhard isn't some miracle drug. But I think I will respond very well.. Especially since its a 16 week cycle.
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This is great. How are you organizing your nutrition while taking AndroHard? Tweaking it to harden up or leaving the diet and training unchanged?

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
This is great. How are you organizing your nutrition while taking AndroHard? Tweaking it to harden up or leaving the diet and training unchanged?

-Matt
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My diet is gluten free and dairy free. I spent all of 2011 figuring out what worked best for me and now I really have my diet in check. I eat high protein/moderate-high fats... A lot of eggs which I know you like. Right now I see no point in changing it too much... I eat when my body tells me to which is about every 4 hours. I actually had gluten free beer on New Years which was surprisingly good. But I won't be drinking on this cycle which is not a big deal because i'm not a big drinker to begin with. So diet is... Gluten free, Dairy free, Low sugars, Low carbs, Low sodium.

Training wise... I will be playing around with a bunch of different programs. I'm having a blast right now just doing completely random workouts that I would never do. I usually hit legs twice a week and upper I usually work twice a week. I've got herniated disc's in my L4-L5 and L5-S1 so i'm really working on getting that stronger again. One thing you will notice about my log is I don't do any squats. I just started incorporating deadlifts and goodmornings so i'm really pumped about that. It will be a fun log for sure.
 
Jorsn said:
My diet is gluten free and dairy free. I spent all of 2011 figuring out what worked best for me and now I really have my diet in check. I eat high protein/moderate-high fats... A lot of eggs which I know you like. Right now I see no point in changing it too much... I eat when my body tells me to which is about every 4 hours. I actually had gluten free beer on New Years which was surprisingly good. But I won't be drinking on this cycle which is not a big deal because i'm not a big drinker to begin with. So diet is... Gluten free, Dairy free, Low sugars, Low carbs, Low sodium.

Training wise... I will be playing around with a bunch of different programs. I'm having a blast right now just doing completely random workouts that I would never do. I usually hit legs twice a week and upper I usually work twice a week. I've got herniated disc's in my L4-L5 and L5-S1 so i'm really working on getting that stronger again. One thing you will notice about my log is I don't do any squats. I just started incorporating deadlifts and goodmornings so i'm really pumped about that. It will be a fun log for sure.
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Sounds close to Paleo, which I heavily approve.
 
Jorsn said:
My diet is gluten free and dairy free. I spent all of 2011 figuring out what worked best for me and now I really have my diet in check. I eat high protein/moderate-high fats... A lot of eggs which I know you like. Right now I see no point in changing it too much... I eat when my body tells me to which is about every 4 hours. I actually had gluten free beer on New Years which was surprisingly good. But I won't be drinking on this cycle which is not a big deal because i'm not a big drinker to begin with. So diet is... Gluten free, Dairy free, Low sugars, Low carbs, Low sodium.

Training wise... I will be playing around with a bunch of different programs. I'm having a blast right now just doing completely random workouts that I would never do. I usually hit legs twice a week and upper I usually work twice a week. I've got herniated disc's in my L4-L5 and L5-S1 so i'm really working on getting that stronger again. One thing you will notice about my log is I don't do any squats. I just started incorporating deadlifts and goodmornings so i'm really pumped about that. It will be a fun log for sure.
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What did you notice about gluten based foods that did not agree with you? usually people get painful GI problems, facial swelling etc...

I have not been able to properly perform squats either ---knees still in pain, I do V-var squats and reverse hack squats however....

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
What did you notice about gluten based foods that did not agree with you? usually people get painful GI problems, facial swelling etc...

I have not been able to properly perform squats either ---knees still in pain, I do V-var squats and reverse hack squats however....

-Matt
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To be honest... I found out gluten was the culprit by mistake. Start in December of 2010 I really started getting my diet in order. All throughout 2011 I was adding and subtracting things in order to improve my energy levels, asthma, recovery, ADD, acne, sleep. I started doing 20 hour fasts here and there and every time I noticed when I would take in any form of gluten I would feel like crap, foggy memory, GI issues, bloated all day, not hungry, irregular bowel movements. So I removed it from my diet, I mean there are times when I can't avoid it but 99% of the time I eat gluten free. Everyone always complements me on how my face doesn't look bloated and same with my stomach. I was 206lbs in December of 2010 and right now i'm sitting at 184-186lbs. All I did was change my diet and now I dropped down from a 36 waist to a 34, My ADD is way better, My energy is stable throughout the day, I don't get bloated, Very little acne, Asthma is pretty much non existent which is awesome because i've had it since I was born, normal bowel movements. I'll never go back to eating gluten or dairy!

I just started doing deadlifts and goodmornings again... So far no pain as far as my pinched nerve but i'm extremely sore.
 
Jorsn said:
To be honest... I found out gluten was the culprit by mistake. Start in December of 2010 I really started getting my diet in order. All throughout 2011 I was adding and subtracting things in order to improve my energy levels, asthma, recovery, ADD, acne, sleep. I started doing 20 hour fasts here and there and every time I noticed when I would take in any form of gluten I would feel like crap, foggy memory, GI issues, bloated all day, not hungry, irregular bowel movements. So I removed it from my diet, I mean there are times when I can't avoid it but 99% of the time I eat gluten free. Everyone always complements me on how my face doesn't look bloated and same with my stomach. I was 206lbs in December of 2010 and right now i'm sitting at 184-186lbs. All I did was change my diet and now I dropped down from a 36 waist to a 34, My ADD is way better, My energy is stable throughout the day, I don't get bloated, Very little acne, Asthma is pretty much non existent which is awesome because i've had it since I was born, normal bowel movements. I'll never go back to eating gluten or dairy!

I just started doing deadlifts and goodmornings again... So far no pain as far as my pinched nerve but i'm extremely sore.
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This seriously makes me consider going gluten free. But as someone who loves cooking complex dishes, it would probably not be feasible for me in the long run.
 
Yea it is very difficult to avoid gluten. I believe I do well with it so I will keep eating it. But then again, I also do well with nightly Carls Jr in the off-season.....

-Matt
 
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