PCT for epistane
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GTB
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Offer up some more details about your cycle. How mgs,how long, past experience with ph. Best PCT is personal preference, are you thinking SERM?Have you started the cycle? Like gymrat827 said if money is an issue hold tight until you have everything in place.
Blergs
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I dont agree.
its more important but it shouldent cost you more
unless you mean only running some oral only cycle for a few weeks, then i guess sit could. but a decent 12-14 week cycle would cost more unless your over paying or going buck wild on pct products.
Blergs
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how are you planning to run it?
you realise food shoudl be the main focus and it coule acually costyou more then the products. this thta inmind. HOW will you PLAN to run the EPI?
Blergs
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personally id rec the DAA on cycle. (DAA dosent help you recover and may acually make recovery harder depending n levels)
then HCGenerate or forged post cycle after.
criticalbench
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wtf?
i can easily get enough hcg, clomid for 8 weeks a hell of alot cheaper than a bottle of epistane.
No clue who is robbing your wallet.
Bamski
Active member
Well not necessarily PCT, Still have to buy support supps for before, during, and after cycle, so i added that in there. Torem is pretty pricey still since its still relatively new, and then a natty test booster. I really dont skimp on PCT, It still costs more if you include all the above mentioned. I dont get HCG so therefore i have to go the SERM + Support + Natty test booster (I.E DAA Bulk or a mixture). I dont just go just SERM.
I can definitely see your misunderstanding on my post. Sorry for not being clear enough
Bamski
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Well i just saw your post after i explained my explanation on why i said that. It seemed to me that he was going oral only.
Blergs
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somthign mild and OTC shoudl enb nuff. liek forged post cycle.
but i HIGHYL rec you dotn run oral onyl cycle with no test base, there are MANY resons for this
Blergs
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lol thats whati was thinking
Blergs
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I really hope he dosent go oral nly
. or atleastnto with NO test sub. like DAA, DHEA, injectable or M1D from lg SOMTHING while on cycle
kaikara
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Blergs,
Can you state why you wouldn't run an oral only? When running PH's like H-drol, Pmag, Epi, S-drol, etc, it's very common to run oral only and works wonders for most people.
I have read some info on running DAA while on cycle, but have also seen the argument that it's like fighting a fire with a garden hose. You can try to boost your natural test, but the cycle is going to shut you down anyways.
(That being said, I ran DAA for the first two weeks of this Pmag cycle just to see what it would do).
Can you state why you wouldn't run an oral only? When running PH's like H-drol, Pmag, Epi, S-drol, etc, it's very common to run oral only and works wonders for most people.
I have read some info on running DAA while on cycle, but have also seen the argument that it's like fighting a fire with a garden hose. You can try to boost your natural test, but the cycle is going to shut you down anyways.
(That being said, I ran DAA for the first two weeks of this Pmag cycle just to see what it would do).
mmacrazy
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it's funny because I plan on starting this cycle soon as well. It's insane the amount of info that is out there and the stuff that is needed to buy.
Nutra has a great sale going right now on cycle support pb flavor so ordered up 2 of those. Being it's my first cycle as well I dont have more personal info but from what I have read from all over. the info can be overwhelming so I take the "average" and base what I am doing of that. In other words if 15 people on 20 sites say use a serm, but 10 people say dont, well I'll listen to the majority.
load hawthorn for a week or 2 before starting
on cycle use cycle support twice a day.
post cycle use a serm, natural test booster, and maybe a cort controller.
No point running a cycle if you cant afford the necessary things to do it right. Then you just get cut or big for a few weeks, and lose it all right after.
Nutra has a great sale going right now on cycle support pb flavor so ordered up 2 of those. Being it's my first cycle as well I dont have more personal info but from what I have read from all over. the info can be overwhelming so I take the "average" and base what I am doing of that. In other words if 15 people on 20 sites say use a serm, but 10 people say dont, well I'll listen to the majority.
load hawthorn for a week or 2 before starting
on cycle use cycle support twice a day.
post cycle use a serm, natural test booster, and maybe a cort controller.
No point running a cycle if you cant afford the necessary things to do it right. Then you just get cut or big for a few weeks, and lose it all right after.
GTB
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I just completed same cycle last week ,first week of PCT. I went oral only gained 14lbs. I did extensive research and there is tone of info.
tunedsports.com/designer.../the-epistane-havoc-informative-bible/
Tamox, Titanium XL(some prefer DAA) , Erase for my PCT. On cycle I used LIV52, Hawthorne Berrie(BP) 3g, Taurine(back pumps) 3g, and fish oil(joints) 4g. That is just the route I went, Like I said in previous post best PCT is preference, but all the components are Necessary. Serm, natty test booster, AI. JMO