Tes + Tren first cycle

Andrew1k

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Well first off im not exactly in perfect shape, my ex got jealous of me an my gym time so I cut it out. Now I'm looking to get back into it again, but this time with a Tren + test cycle. So I was hoping to get some insight an maybe help settig up a plan. Not looking for anything over the top just want mainly strength gains but if I get mass in the progress I'll be pleased. If you need any more info about me just ask. Also I live in San bernardino, California an I have no idea where to get either of these products an my gym is all locals who aren't exactly users aside from creatine. Thnx for your time -Andrew
 
ahhhh 1st time users dont touch tren, thats more for 5th time users. what kind of test? how many wks?? PCT ??
 
Im looking to do 6 weeks on 6 weeks off. And idk what kind would you suggest. Mainly just wanna jump start myself back into gym mode. I
 
Andrew1k said:
Im looking to do 6 weeks on 6 weeks off. And idk what kind would you suggest. Mainly just wanna jump start myself back into gym mode. I
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You don't do that with steroids...

Get a pre workout and go to the gym.

You need to educate yourself, learn nutrition and spend more time lifting naturally before even considering steroids.
 
If you are just getting back into it, I'd do it naturally for at least 3 months. Trying to jump start with steroids will lead to gaining strength and size so fast that you risk getting injured and being out for a long time. Have a little patience =)
 
Well I want the fast gains. I'll be going to the gym about 2 times daily once i start. Is there a diet plan that I should be on for a Tren+test cycle?
 
If your main concern is getting big and ripped, this will do you.

Week 1-24: Test @ 500mg/week, .5mg letrozole 2x a week, 500-1000iu HCG 2x per week (optional)
Week 1-6, 13-18: Tren @ 300mg/week (Tren Enanthate: 150mg 2x a week, Tren Acetate: 75mg EOD)

Basically Test for 24 weeks, then alternate 6 weeks tren on / off.

Diet wise, just make sure you eat 5-6x a day, with 250-300 grams of protein minimum. Obviously, if you want to gain straight size, eat everything in sight. If you want to be more 'ripped', no sugar, fried food, junk food, etc. There's tons of diet info here. But no, there's not a special 'diet' you need to be on really.

You could also add in 6 weeks of winstrol at the end, on weeks 19-24, at 50mg/day to harden up even more. You could also mix in some dbol or anadrol on your 6 weeks 'off' between tren cycles if you want to keep packing on mass.

You could also add in some igf-1 on your 'off' weeks when you aren't on tren. Start with 50mcg a day, and work up to 100mcg a day. 6 weeks on / 6 weeks off / repeat. If you can get HGH, run it at 2-3 iu per day, Mon-Fri, for as long as you can afford to do so. If that means the full 24 weeks, and including the 6 weeks worth of pct, do it. It will give you better recovery between workouts, decrease fat, and compound lean mass gains, and help tendons and joints.
 
Thnx ripped one that sounds like a solid plan. But is 24 weeks non stop tess okay? I'm assuming that I'll be getting side effects for sure then. Also should I incorporate cardio with this plan?
 
Dude, I think you're going to get yourself in trouble with a cycle like that for your 1st time. Hitting the gym natural for a good few months with a clean diet, lots of protein, and some creatine will give you a real good boost. But, it looks like you're set on a cycle. I understand you wanting to get results quick, so if you're determined, drop the tren and run Test E only at 500mg/week for 12 weeks, HCG at 500ius/week, Aromasin at 12.5mgs twice a week. That should fix ya up real good right there. Tren, very bad idea man, stay away.
 
Andrew1k said:
Thnx ripped one that sounds like a solid plan. But is 24 weeks non stop tess okay? I'm assuming that I'll be getting side effects for sure then. Also should I incorporate cardio with this plan?
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Sure man, 24 weeks is nothing. I was on for almost 40 weeks straight a couple of years ago. You start to love the feeling and don't want to come off.

Hair loss: only if you are prone to it. This will happen with even short cycles...
Libido: It will be up and down, and just plain different.
Acne: only if you are prone to it.
No sleep/night sweats: Tren causes this, but you probably knew that already.
Gyno: This is why you take the letrozole or arimidex on cycle. Tren can also cause a seperate kind of gyno that you may need some cabaser to combat. Might want to get some of this too. Gyno can even happen on 4 week cycles if you are prone to it. Again, a bigger dose means a bigger risk of gyno.

But like you said, if your goal is to be big and ripped as fast as possible, and you don't want to wait, then you will have to deal with the issues that come out of such cycles. There's really no way around it.
 
Not too bad if its a local sale. Depends on brand and concentration too, but assuming its a reputable ugl, sure, go for it.
 
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