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Sd/Epi cycle or Ultradrol solo?

ReyMan

ReyMan

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I'm going to be doing a strong bulk in january and was wondering which cycle sounds better.

SD:20/20/20(maybe 30)
Epi:20/20/30/30/40/40

OR

Ultradrol:8/8/8/12 (need to read more logs to be set on what dose i wanna do)


Which of these cycles do you think would be better, brahs?

Side Note: I respond super quickly to SD, the gains come in the end of the 1st week and beginning of the second week but stall out pretty early.
 
kanakafarian said:
I'd go with the SD/epi but better yet, why not SD/test/and finish off with epi?
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I have been thinking about this same cycle... hmmm
I have even been thinking of a way to work in transaderm in there somehow, just not sure how to fit it in yet. I'm still researching!!
 
hungryH said:
what is the point of "ultradrol"?? it just seems to me like a more expensive superdrol.....with a really ****ty ripoff name
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ultradrol is actually only 10% methasteron (superdrol) and 90% Methylstenbolone, which is a anabolic steriod used since 1963 but was never made into a prohormone form until now. so calling it a "rip off" of SD is incorrect. it's more a compound of itself. hope this answers your question.
 
hungryH said:
what is the point of "ultradrol"?? it just seems to me like a more expensive superdrol.....with a really ****ty ripoff name
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You sir are an idiot. Ultradrol is not the same as SuperDrol. SuperDrol is dimethyl dht and I believe that ultradrol is dimethyl 1-testosterone (not completely sure). They are definitely not the same.
 
androsoft said:
ultradrol is actually only 10% methasteron (superdrol) and 90% Methylstenbolone, which is a anabolic steriod used since 1963 but was never made into a prohormone form until now. so calling it a "rip off" of SD is incorrect. it's more a compound of itself. hope this answers your question.
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Yep, I had a feeling I was wrong.
 
hungryH said:
what is the point of "ultradrol"?? it just seems to me like a more expensive superdrol.....with a really ****ty ripoff name
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I have taken several superdrol clones and I'm on ultradrol now. They are both awesome but both a lot different
 
SD and Epi...I hope you're not planning on getting laid while on that cycle! make sure you have some little blue pills around...

I swore that I'd never run Epi or SD again without a test base, otherwise I just feel like garbage on them.
 
ReyMan said:
You sir are an idiot. Ultradrol is not the same as SuperDrol. SuperDrol is dimethyl dht and I believe that ultradrol is dimethyl 1-testosterone (not completely sure). They are definitely not the same.
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ReyMan said:
Yep, I had a feeling I was wrong.
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how do you call one guy and idiot because he was confused on the nomenclature (many people thought ultradrol was SD), when you weren't even completely sure what the compound was??
 
delsolrob said:
how do you call one guy and idiot because he was confused on the nomenclature (many people thought ultradrol was SD), when you weren't even completely sure what the compound was??
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Because he was bashing on it and seemed sure. Atleast I stated that I'm not sure on what exactly it is but that I knew they were different. I see no fault on my part.
 
ReyMan said:
Because he was bashing on it and seemed sure. Atleast I stated that I'm not sure on what exactly it is but that I knew they were different. I see no fault on my part.
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Hey bud, I'm just saying...no need to be a dick because someone had misguided information. We're all here to learn and help our brothers out...

as far as I'm aware, Ultradrol was solely Methyl-Stenbolone...unless it was tainted, I'm don't believe it should have any SD in it.
 
delsolrob said:
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as far as I'm aware, Ultradrol was solely Methyl-Stenbolone...unless it was tainted, I'm don't believe it should have any SD in it.
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well, according to jake antheus. they were able to make it 90% m-sten (as i stated above) and "contaminated" with 10% SD. he also mentioned making it higher than 90% m-sten would make the product too expensive to sell.
 
I think that you should run Epi/SD.

Does anyone else hate that on their off cycle they sit on here and constantly tweak and/or change what their next cycle is going to be?

I so far I plan to run AndroMass v2 with epistrong for 6 weeks. I'm in the same boat trying to evade the estro-sides. Hope I don't shutdown completely.
 
w7shred said:
I think that you should run Epi/SD.

Does anyone else hate that on their off cycle they sit on here and constantly tweak and/or change what their next cycle is going to be?

I so far I plan to run AndroMass v2 with epistrong for 6 weeks. I'm in the same boat trying to evade the estro-sides. Hope I don't shutdown completely.
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At first I wanted to do an ultra and trenazone cycle, then I changed my mind because I don't want to run anything that will aromatize. (shoulders don't stop widening till your late 20's, so I don't wanna stunt my shoulder growth)
 
I don't know much about ultra so I would say SD/Epi. You could bridge the two, but either way I would start with a higher epi dose, 30 instead of 20.
 
ReyMan said:
You sir are an idiot. Ultradrol is not the same as SuperDrol. SuperDrol is dimethyl dht and I believe that ultradrol is dimethyl 1-testosterone (not completely sure). They are definitely not the same.
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no, no thats not what I mean. I'm talking in terms of gains, superdrol will be hard to beat. Ultradrol is far more expensive for what seems like the same gains
 
androsoft said:
ultradrol is actually only 10% methasteron (superdrol) and 90% Methylstenbolone, which is a anabolic steriod used since 1963 but was never made into a prohormone form until now. so calling it a "rip off" of SD is incorrect. it's more a compound of itself. hope this answers your question.
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a ripoff name calling it "ultra" drol, implying it is a step up from superdrol. and no it does not.
 
stopstalking said:
I have taken several superdrol clones and I'm on ultradrol now. They are both awesome but both a lot different
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in which ways?? which do you prefer??

I know people always get excited about new compounds which is why people must be getting annoyed at me in here ruining their buzz lol, but in my own own experience new compounds rarely live up to their hype...superdrol being one that lived up to it, for me anyways.

Also to the poster who referred to me as an "idiot" for not understanding what was in this compound, I am fully aware that it is methyl-stenbolone, a compound I have been very interested in since the original mass tabs were rumoured to contain it. I mean, why would I buy it if I can get the same gains from superdrol for half the price?
 
hungryH said:
in which ways?? which do you prefer??

I know people always get excited about new compounds which is why people must be getting annoyed at me in here ruining their buzz lol, but in my own own experience new compounds rarely live up to their hype...superdrol being one that lived up to it, for me anyways.

Also to the poster who referred to me as an "idiot" for not understanding what was in this compound, I am fully aware that it is methyl-stenbolone, a compound I have been very interested in since the original mass tabs were rumoured to contain it. I mean, why would I buy it if I can get the same gains from superdrol for half the price?
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What about Boladrol brah? Most potent compound ever lololololol
 
ReyMan said:
What about Boladrol brah? Most potent compound ever lololololol
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Ok, I have a new idea, ultra/trenazone. Y'all think that would yield better gains than sd/epi?
 
Ok so I think that SD/Epi would be better than my plan. I want to bulk up for Jan too and I think that I should save my Andromass for the summer? Just sucks I need to pick up the SD.
 
w7shred said:
Ok so I think that SD/Epi would be better than my plan. I want to bulk up for Jan too and I think that I should save my Andromass for the summer? Just sucks I need to pick up the SD.
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GO TO MR.SUPPS TO GET BEASTDROL, it's buy one get one free. Today is the last day
 
I've run SD bridged to Epi for a 6 week run and loved the gains, but hated the sides. You get shut down fast and the night sweats are awful.

I also ran an SD-Halo bridge, and noticed that as soon as I got off the SD the fun started to wear off. Call me crazy, but I say go with what works. Run SD solo for 5 weeks and call it a day. That's enough of a bulk right there.
 
DonnyG said:
I've run SD bridged to Epi for a 6 week run and loved the gains, but hated the sides. You get shut down fast and the night sweats are awful.

I also ran an SD-Halo bridge, and noticed that as soon as I got off the SD the fun started to wear off. Call me crazy, but I say go with what works. Run SD solo for 5 weeks and call it a day. That's enough of a bulk right there.
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SD for 5 weeks, ouch my kidneys.
 
ReyMan said:
SD for 5 weeks, ouch my kidneys.
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Id just go 3-4 weeks on SD and so epi for 4 weeks one week over lap. 6-7 weeker. i think you will get the same results with SD 20/20/20 epi 0/0/30/40/50/50 as doing 4 weeks SD. and it will be easier on your bod with less sides. not more is better with these orals.
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
Id just go 3-4 weeks on SD and so epi for 4 weeks one week over lap. 6-7 weeker. i think you will get the same results with SD 20/20/20 epi 0/0/30/40/50/50 as doing 4 weeks SD. and it will be easier on your bod with less sides. not more is better with these orals.
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maybe 2 weeks overlapping because i want the epi to kick in when the SD has stalled out or when i stop it
 
ReyMan said:
maybe 2 weeks overlapping because i want the epi to kick in when the SD has stalled out or when i stop it
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I think it kicks in pretty fast. when it first came out people used to just do 20mg then bump to 30mg. if you got good epi 1 week at 30mg will be plenty ready 7 days in bump to 40-50 right after SD though.

worst comes to worse maybe do 10 days of epi overlapping. you will be g2g.
 
SD stayed in my system for quite a while it felt like. I ran 4 weeks and the last 3 weeks were @ 30mg daily. I was still making gains and hitting PRs almost 3 weeks after my last dose of SD.

I'm also planning my next cycle which will start in about 2 weeks, thinking SD/EPI as well. I have LGI's SD and EPI which are 90 cap bottles so i think i can keep the cycle to 1 bottle each. This is what i'm thinking:

SD: 20/20/30/30
EPI: 0/ 0/ 0/ 20/30/40/50

7 week cycle with transaderm or something run during cycle to help prevent lethargy and complete libido shutdown.
 
ReyMan said:
maybe 2 weeks overlapping because i want the epi to kick in when the SD has stalled out or when i stop it
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I must say you have swayed me, So are you going to run Super and Epi or what? I think I'm on board too for it. I dont know about running it with the transaderm though..
 
w7shred said:
I must say you have swayed me, So are you going to run Super and Epi or what? I think I'm on board too for it. I dont know about running it with the transaderm though..
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IMO, you should always use something as a test base when running these designers...unless you don't really care about libido, lethargy, etc.
 
Well that's why I wanted to run the two with andromass the whole time because its suppose to feel like 428mgs/week of test E
 
w7shred said:
Well that's why I wanted to run the two with andromass the whole time because its suppose to feel like 428mgs/week of test E
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Andromass would just be a really expensive test base. Use something cheaper and save the andromass for another cycle.
 
would could I throw into sd and epi to not be lethargic and have no libido? I don't want to start pinning quite yet.
 
w7shred said:
would could I throw into sd and epi to not be lethargic and have no libido? I don't want to start pinning quite yet.
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Use transaderm or dermacrine
 
w7shred said:
^this
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It helps to get pinned a couple times by a friend before you start doing it yourself.

Or you could start using peptides and get used to slin pins first.
 
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