EPI PCT Advice needed.

Gary2Guns

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Hi

Ive tried doing as much research as possible and there's so many different PCT protocols Im more confused now than ever.
However, i think ive got a rough idea. I need advice based upon the actual sups ive managed to get hold of please, ATD (chaparall labs) and tamoxifen as i cant get hold of any other prescription only sups.

I'm currently running a 6 week epi cycle. 20 30 30 30 30 30. Its my first PH cycle. I wanted something that was quite noob friendly. I did a sustanon cycle about 3 years ago and started getting gyno symptoms; a small hard disc had developed behind my nipples. I cant remember what i took at the time but it sort of dissipitated away and left small fatty lumps. So im very anxious to get it right this time.

So ive read Dr.D's inverse ATD theory and from what i understand i can do the following PCT. I would just appreciate some experienced opinions to give it a look over and advise accordingly please.

I was gonna run it like this

wk1: Tamoxifen 60mg/d, ATD 25
wk2: Tamoxifen 40mg/d, ATD 25
wk3: Tamoxifen 20mg/d, ATD 50
wk4: Tamoxifen 20mg/d, ATD 75

Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
 
dude over kill!

Tamox 20/20/10/10
ATD 0/0/0/25/50/50/25/25

options for better over the counter estrogen blockers are "Erase" "Free Test" and Formestane or Formastanzol
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
dude over kill!

Tamox 20/20/10/10
ATD 0/0/0/25/50/50/25/25

options for better over the counter estrogen blockers are "Erase" "Free Test" and Formestane or Formastanzol
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Thanks for the reply! :)

So you recommend running ATD from week 4 onwards and tapering it down?
 
Gary2Guns said:
Thanks for the reply! :)

So you recommend running ATD from week 4 onwards and tapering it down?
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yes but look up erase on nutraplanet.com its only 29 bucks and a whole lot better. if you also add DAA into your PCT it helps get back sex drive and keep gains.

on epi estogen will already be low so no need for the high dose nolva (tamox) 20mg should be fine.
 
Thanks dude, I've already got the ATD so im gonna stick with that but i'll remember Erase for any future cycle and i'll add DAA. Your advice was much appreciated. :)
 
Gary2Guns said:
Hi

Ive tried doing as much research as possible and there's so many different PCT protocols Im more confused now than ever.
However, i think ive got a rough idea. I need advice based upon the actual sups ive managed to get hold of please, ATD (chaparall labs) and tamoxifen as i cant get hold of any other prescription only sups.

I'm currently running a 6 week epi cycle. 20 30 30 30 30 30. Its my first PH cycle. I wanted something that was quite noob friendly. I did a sustanon cycle about 3 years ago and started getting gyno symptoms; a small hard disc had developed behind my nipples. I cant remember what i took at the time but it sort of dissipitated away and left small fatty lumps. So im very anxious to get it right this time.

So ive read Dr.D's inverse ATD theory and from what i understand i can do the following PCT. I would just appreciate some experienced opinions to give it a look over and advise accordingly please.

I was gonna run it like this

wk1: Tamoxifen 60mg/d, ATD 25
wk2: Tamoxifen 40mg/d, ATD 25
wk3: Tamoxifen 20mg/d, ATD 50
wk4: Tamoxifen 20mg/d, ATD 75

Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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wow, thats a lot of nolva, go with 20/20/10/10, also follow the advice already mentioned.
 
yea i think 20/20/10/10 would be fine specially if your like me on epi, then you wont get shutdown bad at all.
if you feeling completely shut down most i would go 40/30/20/10. atd is fine i personally like it i just dont like the libido kill, but i have heard good things on erase too
 
So i'm currently into my PCT and all has gone well so far. Im just wondering......... how long does it take once i've finished my PCT before everything is back to normal? (hormone levels etc)
 
Gary2Guns said:
So i'm currently into my PCT and all has gone well so far. Im just wondering......... how long does it take once i've finished my PCT before everything is back to normal? (hormone levels etc)
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generally x2 the length of your cycle. so if you were On for 4 weeks you should wait 8 weeks b4 next run.
 
rochabp said:
generally x2 the length of your cycle. so if you were On for 4 weeks you should wait 8 weeks b4 next run.
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So is that how long it takes before hormone levels reach their natural equilibrium? Im not thinking of doing another cycle for a few months yet anyway. Im just wondering about how long after doing a cycle before everything is at a happy balance?
 
Gary2Guns said:
So is that how long it takes before hormone levels reach their natural equilibrium? Im not thinking of doing another cycle for a few months yet anyway. Im just wondering about how long after doing a cycle before everything is at a happy balance?
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im not sure there is no guarantee you will reach hormonal levels like the ones before a cycle, thats why we run a post cycle therapy, its therapy there is no guarantee you will produce as much test as you used to. but from i was told its double the length of your cycle before you are stable again.
 
PCT doesnt heal you it just speeds up time. you need more time than 8 weeks IMO. you body after 12 weeks will be back to normal. time of cycle + PCT plus some = next time to do another cycle. you dont wanna do cycles that close either because you wanna try and gain naturally as well as your receptors need a break so you feel the steroid.
 
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