AHarvey311990
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I am planning on stacking superdrol with orastan-e. Any recommendations on dosages? And any other help? Please let me know.
I NEED HELP
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MakaveliThaDon
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Do you have your pct and on cycle supports planned out?
gymrat827
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yeah, whats the rest of the cycle looking like?? is this your 1st cycle?? tell us more about yourself and your plan
AHarvey311990
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Well I couldn't find sd so I'm thinking about starting out with forged sd extreme, and then bridge into p-stanz by competitive edge after 4 weeks for another 3 weeks. Along with this I will take cycle assist by competitive edge. As far as pct, I was thinking about purus recycle and nolvadex.
forged sd extreme 10/20/20/20
p-stanz 75/100/100
cycle assist 8/8/8/8/8/8/8
PCT starting next day
Purus Recycle 4/4/4/4/4/4
Nolvadex (not sure on what doses should be)
Please comment and help with dosing
forged sd extreme 10/20/20/20
p-stanz 75/100/100
cycle assist 8/8/8/8/8/8/8
PCT starting next day
Purus Recycle 4/4/4/4/4/4
Nolvadex (not sure on what doses should be)
Please comment and help with dosing
AHarvey311990
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This is also my first cycle, kinda new to this.
gymrat827
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dont touch sd, you dont know what your doing.
AHarvey311990
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ok, what do you suggest?
rayactr2k6
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I'm with gymrat on this. It's not advised.
I did it for my first cycle, but I did a good week of research before taking it.
LMG is safer. It worked pretty well for me. Make sure to get an AI for your cycle though, I hear it aromatizes pretty bad.
AHarvey311990
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So for a 1st cycle user, what would be a stack someone recommends using then?
heebs10
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great point! you probably wouldnt even notice the addition of the Oe on top of the SD. better used to solidify the SD gains via bridge.
then again, if this is your first cycle, AVOID SD.
AHarvey311990
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So should I just run the Oe by itself with everything else I have? Or should I run something else and bridge over to Oe?
rayactr2k6
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just run one so you see how your body responds to one
rayactr2k6
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oh you mean my research. thats when i was at school. i researched like all day every day. and unreals guide to superdrol was so informative that i didnt really need to look any farther
B5150
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A whole week? Like seven entire days?
rayactr2k6
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im good at research 
gained 15 lbs and kept making gains evens months after my cycle. no sides other than a little lethargy and a slight libido drop. i mustve done something right lol
gained 15 lbs and kept making gains evens months after my cycle. no sides other than a little lethargy and a slight libido drop. i mustve done something right lol
rayactr2k6
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i didnt get bloodwork done so i dunno. i used every support supplement you are supposed to use though. hawthorne, saw palmetto, liver supps, all before during and after the cycle. I heard with SD your HDL and all that can still be affected even if you do take all the right support supplements
AHarvey311990
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So I should just run the Oe with the cycle assist, and for pct the nolvadex and recycle?
rayactr2k6
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I don't know enough about Oe to know what PCT you need, but nolva is a good SERM from what ive read. if the cycle assist has milk thistle i would drop it if you want to maximize gains, it blocks androgen receptors.
it sounds like Mr. Dunn is the steroid master, maybe he could help you figure that out
AHarvey311990
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I don't know enough about Oe to know what PCT you need, but nolva is a good SERM from what ive read. if the cycle assist has milk thistle i would drop it if you want to maximize gains, it blocks androgen receptors.
it sounds like Mr. Dunn is the steroid master, maybe he could help you figure that out
Ok, I think I'll run the Oe with and AI, and for pct nolvadex and recycle? Sound good for a first cycle?
B5150
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So then this statement:
may not be true. Correct?
So why take them then?
rayactr2k6
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cuz hawthorne and saw palmetto are for BP and Prostate, not HDL.
And liver supps may not help your liver DURING your cycle cuz your liver is like RAM. It can only handle so many tasks at one time. If you task it with converting liver supps into enzymes, it ends up working even harder because it is doing that as well as breaking down the crap we are putting into our liver via PH's. At least that's what someone who is PreMed told me, I'm not preMed, so I dunno. What he told me is that loading up on liver supps is better before and after a cycle, rather than during, based on the above information.
As for having no sides, you have a point, that statement may not have been all true. What I should have said is "I didn't have any NOTICABLE sides". So, on that, I stand corrected. Hail, Sled God!
As for HDL, I don't know what supplement is supposed to help with that, so if you know, then feel free to enlighten me lol
rayactr2k6
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Like I said, I dunno enough about Oe to tell you thats good or bad. From what Ive seen AI's are used during a cycle if the PH aromatizes. I used an AI for my mLMG cycle, and Clomid for my PCT.
I think the recycle stuff could be good, but alot of those ingredients you can get in higher doses for cheaper. For PCT the main thing is a SERM. Plus support supplements like saw palmetto, hawthorne (if the PH affects blood pressure), fish oil, and liver supps (if the ph affects liver)
Again, i don't know anything about the PH your gunna use, so wait until you get a better answer from someone who knows the nature of that hormone before you start it
B5150
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Once I start getting called names I know I have their attention.
When you say (paraphrased) "I researched in one week and know all I need to know because I do great research" it kind of insults some of the more mature and responsible members in your widths
Of anything I would consider being the MOST serious worry with SD is indeed cholesterol with BP being second. Surprised your one weeks research didn't tell you that.
So I'll go backward from there.
Hawthorne berry extract can be very effective when loaded for a couple or few weeks prior. Celery seed extract can be effective as well.
For cholesterol, although it cannot necessarily prevent adverse lipid reaction, the things that are recommended and reasonably effective are fish oil, flax seed oil, olive oil, policosanol, niacin, aspirin, RYR, alph-lipoic-acid to name a few.
rayactr2k6
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Once I start getting called names I know I have their attention.
When you say (paraphrased) "I researched in one week and know all I need to know because I do great research" it kind of insults some of the more mature and responsible members in your widths
Of anything I would consider being the MOST serious worry with SD is indeed cholesterol with BP being second. Surprised your one weeks research didn't tell you that.
So I'll go backward from there.
Hawthorne berry extract can be very effective when loaded for a couple or few weeks prior. Celery seed extract can be effective as well.
For cholesterol, although it cannot necessarily prevent adverse lipid reaction, the things that are recommended and reasonably effective are fish oil, flax seed oil, olive oil, policosanol, niacin, aspirin, RYR, alph-lipoic-acid to name a few.
I knew about BP with SD, thats why I mentioned the Hawthorne. Would the celery seed stacked with hawthorne add to the effectiveness?
I always take fish oil anyways, I know it has good fatty acids, but I didnt know that it would regulate cholesterol while on a cycle.
You said aspirin, but don't NSAID's inhibit protein synthesis, thus inhibiting muscle growth? And with olive oil on a cycle, that is mainly fat that needs to be processed in your liver, even if it is a good fat, so wouldn't adding liver work to the equation be a negative if you are already taxing it with SD?
As for the paraphrased comment, I didnt mean any disrespect, I know very little about steroids in general, but I feel like I did good research on the specific comound that I was thinking about taking. Especially after finding Unreal's guide to superdrol, which Im sure youve read, I felt safe and well-informed enough to try a cycle.
P.S. Sled God is a term of endearment lol
B5150
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Be sure to use the extract.
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I cannot say that it help regulate cholesterol while using steroids but it already promotes and improves lipids.
It would help you and a very many OCD's here on the boards if they realized that the minutia of the laboratory does not necessarily result in observed or anecdotal evidence. You and I are both armatures and far from the need to sweat these minute details.
Oral steroids and the liver are about the toxic metabolites of the steroid after first pass liver breakdown not necessarily the steroid or the "work" the liver is doing. Anti-oxidants like NAC and ALA serve us well. I prefer ALA as it also regulates blood sugar and as a by-product of blood sugar/insulin management helps cholesterol.
No disrespect taken. Just sayin'.
No I did not read Unreal's guide. There is likely nothing in there that I didn't already know before he wrote it.
FYI - I was a beta tester for the original Designer Supplements' SuperDrol...FWIW
Sled God? Alright then.
rayactr2k6
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the hawthorne im currently taking doesnt say extract on the bottle. im guna hafta take a look at some stuff to compare what i have.
for liver i do take NAC and lecithin rather than milk thistle, as apparently milk thistle is counterproductive.
i do appreciate the advice, i may have seemed like a smart a$$ before, but i am always willing to learn more. if you have any more advice on PH or anything related, im more than happy to accept it
Thank you Sled God
Be sure to use the extract.
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I cannot say that it help regulate cholesterol while using steroids but it already promotes and improves lipids.
It would help you and a very many OCD's here on the boards if they realized that the minutia of the laboratory does not necessarily result in observed or anecdotal evidence. You and I are both armatures and far from the need to sweat these minute details.
Oral steroids and the liver are about the toxic metabolites of the steroid after first pass liver breakdown not necessarily the steroid or the "work" the liver is doing. Anti-oxidants like NAC and ALA serve us well. I prefer ALA as it also regulates blood sugar and as a by-product of blood sugar/insulin management helps cholesterol.
No disrespect taken. Just sayin'.
No I did not read Unreal's guide. There is likely nothing in there that I didn't already know before he wrote it.
FYI - I was a beta tester for the original Designer Supplements' SuperDrol...FWIW
Sled God? Alright then.
the hawthorne im currently taking doesnt say extract on the bottle. im guna hafta take a look at some stuff to compare what i have.
for liver i do take NAC and lecithin rather than milk thistle, as apparently milk thistle is counterproductive.
i do appreciate the advice, i may have seemed like a smart a$$ before, but i am always willing to learn more. if you have any more advice on PH or anything related, im more than happy to accept it
Thank you Sled God
soontobbeast
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lol i thought the same thing. pretty crazy