Letro cycle

liftsalot

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Ok I'm getting ready to start a letro cycle here in a few days so I'm getting all the doing prepared. I've read the popular post on doseing protocols and for the most part am going with that. I tried this awhile back but I hated the way it made me feel so I tapered off but I know I need to stick with it to rid this lump I have. Anyone with experience with letro can u help shed some light as to how long can u run letro? I was gonna taper up to the 2.5mg and stay there till its gone and then 7 days later taper off then bring in some nolva for a few weeks. Is it absolutely necessary to go up to 2.5mg or would a lower dose at a longer period of time rid the Gyno? Any feedback and comments will be appreciated. Also what are some sides you guys have experienced with letro?
 
My roommate is doing something similar, he got gyno from a Test cycle gone bad. he started off low and went to 2.5 been on that for 3 days and lumps all ready gone but going to stay then taper back down doing .5 less each day. then he is going to use Nolva for a couple weeks then formestane.

What nolva dose are you doing, also did you read stay on Letro for a whole week after lumps are gone?
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
My roommate is doing something similar, he got gyno from a Test cycle gone bad. he started off low and went to 2.5 been on that for 3 days and lumps all ready gone but going to stay then taper back down doing .5 less each day. then he is going to use Nolva for a couple weeks then formestane.

What nolva dose are you doing, also did you read stay on Letro for a whole week after lumps are gone?
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I was gonna do nolva after the letro for two to three weeks probably 20/20/10 or 20/10/10. Yea i read from several threads to keep running the letro a week after its gone then taper back down and use a SERM for a few weeks to prevent estro rebound. I just got my blood work from the Dr today and my test levels are 564 but my estrogen is at 46 which i guess is slightly higher than normal. Did your roommate have any sides from the letro at all? From what i hear gains can suffer and its hell on joints and libido.
 
liftsalot said:
I was gonna do nolva after the letro for two to three weeks probably 20/20/10 or 20/10/10. Yea i read from several threads to keep running the letro a week after its gone then taper back down and use a SERM for a few weeks to prevent estro rebound. I just got my blood work from the Dr today and my test levels are 564 but my estrogen is at 46 which i guess is slightly higher than normal. Did your roommate have any sides from the letro at all? From what i hear gains can suffer and its hell on joints and libido.
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He said his knees hurt a little bitch from squats and snatches but he goes pretty heavy and deep, hes short. He said 2 days while at full dose and they lumps are comepletely gone, they showed dramatic improvement by third day (1.50mg) and full improvement by 2.0 then the 3 days i think he said at 2.5 straight up gone. he said he might jsut use it a couple more days.

His notes are:

Strength down a tad
Vasularity through roof first 2-3 days now completely gone
generally just feels smaller while flexing and lack of pump.

What do you think about start an OTC AI instead of using nolva?
 
estrogen rebound can come from nolva, while nolva blocks estrogen while on it nolva will raise serum estrogen levels also. I would use the letro and maybe 10mg of nolva.

IMO, start at 1.5mg letro for a wk, move up to 2mg for a wk, assess the lump and either begin to taper down or stay at 2mg til it begins subside and than taper down. Once you hit .5mg of letro switch to an OTC AI like forma stanzol or Formestane and use that for 3-4wks.
 
gymrat827 said:
estrogen rebound can come from nolva, while nolva blocks estrogen while on it nolva will raise serum estrogen levels also. I would use the letro and maybe 10mg of nolva.

IMO, start at 1.5mg letro for a wk, move up to 2mg for a wk, assess the lump and either begin to taper down or stay at 2mg til it begins subside and than taper down. Once you hit .5mg of letro switch to an OTC AI like forma stanzol or Formestane and use that for 3-4wks.
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So you think a otc AI would be better than nolva? What about atd? The only reason I ask is because I have a brand new bottle of it and I'm kinda poor right now lol. Have you used letro before dude?
 
gymrat827 said:
estrogen rebound can come from nolva, while nolva blocks estrogen while on it nolva will raise serum estrogen levels also. I would use the letro and maybe 10mg of nolva.

IMO, start at 1.5mg letro for a wk, move up to 2mg for a wk, assess the lump and either begin to taper down or stay at 2mg til it begins subside and than taper down. Once you hit .5mg of letro switch to an OTC AI like forma stanzol or Formestane and use that for 3-4wks.
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my roomates gyno was so small, i couldn't see it unless i felt it (no homo, had to help out a bro) but he was so upset with it he got letro. So far he started at jsut .5 and worked his way up and it was already gone by 2.0/2.5 he thinks. hes been on 2.5 for 4 days now when should he taper down, should he cruise at 1.5 or 2.0 for awhile?
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
my roomates gyno was so small, i couldn't see it unless i felt it (no homo, had to help out a bro) but he was so upset with it he got letro. So far he started at jsut .5 and worked his way up and it was already gone by 2.0/2.5 he thinks. hes been on 2.5 for 4 days now when should he taper down, should he cruise at 1.5 or 2.0 for awhile?
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IMO i would actully stay at the 2.5 or 2.0 for at least 4 to 5 more days then taper down and add the nolva or OTC AI at the last day of the letro then stay on it 2 to 4 weeks.
 
gymrat827 said:
estrogen rebound can come from nolva, while nolva blocks estrogen while on it nolva will raise serum estrogen levels also. I would use the letro and maybe 10mg of nolva.

IMO, start at 1.5mg letro for a wk, move up to 2mg for a wk, assess the lump and either begin to taper down or stay at 2mg til it begins subside and than taper down. Once you hit .5mg of letro switch to an OTC AI like forma stanzol or Formestane and use that for 3-4wks.
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Ok starting the Letro tonight, i think im just gonna start at 1 mg and maybe stay there for a week of just a few days then bump up. Or maybe like gymrat said start at 1.5 for a week then 2mg a week and see where im at then. I have read several places that its always best to start with a low dose not sure why that is. When i first started this awhile back i started low like at .25. Never made it up to 2.5 because i felt like hell so i tapered down and stopped it. I just took 1mg right now, have you ever did letro gymrat? The questions i had; i have heard that if you take a mile test booster on letro it will help the libido kill something like DAA or tribulus. Dont know if theres any truth to that, also when i come off the letro here is what i have on hand i have liquid nolva, a full bottle of inhibit-e (atd) and a full bottle of ironmaglabs e-control. Not to familiar with that one but i got it free. What would be the best one to use here after I taper down off the letro? Any critique or comments i am all ears thanks.
 
you or anyone who has a bit of gyno should stay on the letro for a while EVEN once the lump disappears. if you taper down too quickly it may reappear just as fast. caber and dosinex should also be kept on hand for libido and prolactin issues.

So once you have been on 1.5-2mg's and the lump has disappeared you still need to stay at the current dose for another wk, than begin to taper down .5mg every 5 days or so, once you get to .5mg go to .25mg for 1 more wk, than switch over to forma stanzol or formestane for another 3-4wks. You will also taper down on the forma, start at the full dose on the bottle and every wk cut the dose by 25% every wk. Your doing this to prevent rebound that could come from the letro.

So, in short, you go with a powerful dose to rid the lump and than slowly taper down and off AI's for the next 6-8wks to ensure that lump will not come back.
 
Ok question is it possible to feel like utter hell after just one dose of letro? I took just 1mg yesterday and today I have flu like symptoms body aches feel hot but don't actually have a fever. Most alarming is my upper to middle back hurts and I can't take a deep breath cause it hurts to much. I did do back and bis last night and felt kinda weak through my work out, I usually run a mile after lifting and couldn't even do that. This was before I took the letro though so maybe I'm just getting sick. Anyone else ever have a similar reaction? Should I discontinue and if I do should I take any nolva or an AI or is one dose not enough to need that?
 
liftsalot said:
Ok question is it possible to feel like utter hell after just one dose of letro? I took just 1mg yesterday and today I have flu like symptoms body aches feel hot but don't actually have a fever. Most alarming is my upper to middle back hurts and I can't take a deep breath cause it hurts to much. I did do back and bis last night and felt kinda weak through my work out, I usually run a mile after lifting and couldn't even do that. This was before I took the letro though so maybe I'm just getting sick. Anyone else ever have a similar reaction? Should I discontinue and if I do should I take any nolva or an AI or is one dose not enough to need that?
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have you had these symptoms for 3 days now or did you stop taking the letro?? are you on any other meds?? Did all the negitive stuff happen right after the letro?? Are you sure your not getting sick??? what other supps are you on??

we need more info to give you better advice.
 
gymrat827 said:
have you had these symptoms for 3 days now or did you stop taking the letro?? are you on any other meds?? Did all the negitive stuff happen right after the letro?? Are you sure your not getting sick??? what other supps are you on??

we need more info to give you better advice.
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Ya I Belive it was just because I was getting sick. I had the flu or something wiped me out for two weeks. I did stop the letro so probably gonna wait a week or so then try it again. It threw me for a loop cause I did start getting all the weird pains right after I started the letro but after discontinuing still felt like hell so I'm sure it wasn't the cause.
 
I too have a small amount of gyno from a cycle. I have always had puffy nipples but never a lump under them. I got a lump under my left side. I have always used a good PCT just think the last cycle i did 6 months ago suppressed me more and the fact that I'm getting older obviously had something to do with it. I have read up on letro and I am going to do this protocol soon. My main concern is coming of the letro. I used clomid with success years ago multiple times for PCT and didn't like nolva too much. I am gonna go with forma after the letro.
The main question I have is...If using an AI for 6-8 weeks afterwards, would i use forma for 8 weeks or dose forma stanzol for 3-4 then use another type of inhibitor?
Also, when would it be beneficial to use a test booster? while on letro or after the entire run?
 
when you switch from letro to forma stanzol you taper down. then once you come off AI's you wont get a rebound. Every question you have is pretty much covered in this thread.
 
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