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recomp cycle help

Emilio Shim

New member
currently at 210lbs 5' 10'' bf around 16-17%
4cycles under my belt
will be starting this cycle on 10th of septermber

week 1-10 500mg test E pw
week1-8 250mg Tren E pw
week 2-8 winny 50mg ed

will be taking 1200mg milk thistle during winny
ang glucosamine and chondroitin just incase of joint pain

will be starting pct 2weeks after last test injection:
Week 1: 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 2: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 3: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 4: 20mg Nolva ED

will be doing carb cyling high carb on ON-days and low carb on OFF-DAYS

the problem here is my supplier cant get me Test P before 10th of sept so i have to go with Test E
i do know test is test cutting up is all down to your diet but my main concern is getting bloated while on test E

friends suggested aromasin at 12.5mg ED to stop the bloat
so what do u guys reckon or any alternative to this? im on a strict budget right now getting juice here in my country cost an arm and leg!
 
At 16-17% bf you should be worried about your diet and training. Gear is useful when you're in great shape already.

Get your bf under 10 then cycle
 
jamesm11 said:
At 16-17% bf you should be worried about your diet and training. Gear is useful when you're in great shape already.

Get your bf under 10 then cycle
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Thats why he has got winny and the tren e, because they not only improve vascularity and muscle hardness, but also offer an amazing body recomposition effect (mainly the tren).

Have you ever done tren? Are you not worried about the sides? There are a couple of veterans here that had to cut their cycle short due to crazy aggression, intense sweating and brutal insomnia.
 
tren sides fa king suck. They are too bad for some people. Others not so much. 8wks of it may be too much, id plan to stop at 6. 10wks of tes e is a little short but whatever, you cant get p.

Maybe some anavar if you can afford it instead of the tren
 
much respect for the replies guys!

no i havent run tren before that's why im taking in low doses of 250mg p/w to see how my body reacts to the sides
i should have gone with shorter ester but after days of reading tren A may clear out of our system faster but on side wise tren A is much more harsh than tren E

i could go with anavar but i heard so many good review regarding tren =D

test E is added merely for libido purposes,should i go lower or stick to 500mg and go for 12weeks instead of 10?


EBSNW1 said:
Thats why he has got winny and the tren e, because they not only improve vascularity and muscle hardness, but also offer an amazing body recomposition effect (mainly the tren).

Have you ever done tren? Are you not worried about the sides? There are a couple of veterans here that had to cut their cycle short due to crazy aggression, intense sweating and brutal insomnia.
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gymrat827 said:
tren sides fa king suck. They are too bad for some people. Others not so much. 8wks of it may be too much, id plan to stop at 6. 10wks of tes e is a little short but whatever, you cant get p.

Maybe some anavar if you can afford it instead of the tren
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can u give me an insight on your experience with tren sides?

and my question on using aromasin is it really necessary for the bloat? never use test with winny and tren so i dont know how much will i bloat =/
 
To be honest, from what I've heard the tren will really blow you up, so a little bloat is desirable just to protect your joints. Apart from that, my research tells me that 250mg test e should suffice to keep the libido up, and 12 weeks is better than 10.

Whether tren a is harsher than tren e is debatable, but I'm more worried about progesterone-induced gyno that has occurred in some people running tren. AIs won't help in this case.

Please be aware that I have personally not ran any of these compounds and can not base this on my own experience, I have just been doing a lot of research recently for my future cycles.
 
flip flop the test and tren dosages and you got yourself a cycle.

Also wouldn't run nolva after tren. Stick with clomid after tren. Then throw in something cheap like DAA with it. And perhaps an AI in some form or fashion, and you should be g2g.
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
flip flop the test and tren dosages and you got yourself a cycle.

Also wouldn't run nolva after tren. Stick with clomid after tren. Then throw in something cheap like DAA with it. And perhaps an AI in some form or fashion, and you should be g2g.
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What about the progesterone-induced gyno many seem to be getting? Caber?
 
EBSNW1 said:
What about the progesterone-induced gyno many seem to be getting? Caber?
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Right, he'd be wise to keep caber on hand. In pill form. Don't let anyone tell you their liquid caber is g2g...it's not. Caber isn't stable in liquid. That's also why clomid is recommended after tren instead of nolva. Nolva could increase the risk of gyno from a 19-nor substance like tren from what I understand.
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
flip flop the test and tren dosages and you got yourself a cycle.

Also wouldn't run nolva after tren. Stick with clomid after tren. Then throw in something cheap like DAA with it. And perhaps an AI in some form or fashion, and you should be g2g.
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so test at 250mg and tren at 500mg? not really keen on putting that much tren in me maybe i'll see how my body reacts to 250mg and then try to taper it up..will be dropping nolva for pct and get OTC DAA

EBSNW1 said:
To be honest, from what I've heard the tren will really blow you up, so a little bloat is desirable just to protect your joints. Apart from that, my research tells me that 250mg test e should suffice to keep the libido up, and 12 weeks is better than 10.

Whether tren a is harsher than tren e is debatable, but I'm more worried about progesterone-induced gyno that has occurred in some people running tren. AIs won't help in this case.

Please be aware that I have personally not ran any of these compounds and can not base this on my own experience, I have just been doing a lot of research recently for my future cycles.
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for progesterone related gyno doesn't winny help combat it? i have b6 on hand do i really need caber or b6 is sufficient?
 
Emilio Shim said:
so test at 250mg and tren at 500mg? not really keen on putting that much tren in me maybe i'll see how my body reacts to 250mg and then try to taper it up..will be dropping nolva for pct



for progesterone related gyno doesn't winny help combat it? i have b6 on hand do i really need caber or b6 is sufficient?
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Can't post links to other forums, but if you do a search over on ology for a thread by Det oak all about the reasons why to run tren higher than test you will find it very interesting, and it makes sense. I'm just not sure you will see what you want to see out of 250mg of it. And by the time you taper up to a respectable dose, it might be time to come off already.
 
found the post by TDO interesting much but am still not convince on going anything higher than 250mg of tren..

i googled DAA and seems like i can get em OTC...are they g2g?
 
Emilio Shim said:
found the post by TDO interesting much but am still not convince on going anything higher than 250mg of tren..

i googled DAA and seems like i can get em OTC...are they g2g?
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DAA is available everywhere bro. We have it for the best price right now in our ntbm store. It's 16.99 shipped for a tub of it after using the needto139 coupon code.
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
DAA is available everywhere bro. We have it for the best price right now in our ntbm store. It's 16.99 shipped for a tub of it after using the needto139 coupon code.
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can u help me with DAA during pct im not familliar with that product

Week 1: 100mg Clomid
Week 2: 50mg Clomid
Week 3: 50mg Clomid
Week 4: 50mg clomid
DAA?

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week 1-12 250mg test E pw
week1-8 250mg Tren E pw
week 2-8 winny 50mg ed
 
Emilio Shim said:
can u help me with DAA during pct im not familliar with that product

Week 1: 100mg Clomid
Week 2: 50mg Clomid
Week 3: 50mg Clomid
Week 4: 50mg clomid
DAA?
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Sure, the clomid dose looks decent. I wouldn't feel bad about running it at 100 for the first 2 weeks before dropping it back down to 50. You would start the DAA the same time you start the clomid, start the two together for your pct. Typica DAA dosage is 3g. There is a scooper in the tub that measures out 3 grams for you. Just take a scoop of it a day for the duration of your pct.

Clomid does a heck of a job bouncing you back, but it also raises your estrogen a fair amount as well, if you have an AI on hand, which you should any time you start a cycle, it wouldn't be a bad idea to add it at the tail end of your pct or just after you finish your pct to prevent the estrogen rebound.
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
Sure, the clomid dose looks decent. I wouldn't feel bad about running it at 100 for the first 2 weeks before dropping it back down to 50. You would start the DAA the same time you start the clomid, start the two together for your pct. Typica DAA dosage is 3g. There is a scooper in the tub that measures out 3 grams for you. Just take a scoop of it a day for the duration of your pct.

Clomid does a heck of a job bouncing you back, but it also raises your estrogen a fair amount as well, if you have an AI on hand, which you should any time you start a cycle, it wouldn't be a bad idea to add it at the tail end of your pct or just after you finish your pct to prevent the estrogen rebound.
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thank you for your help man appreciate it!
 
good luck!!! wish I could get my hands on injectables..
 
aight gonna keep track of my cycle in this thread!

pinned tren today at 125mg decided to pin myself twice to for a more stable blood pressure and 200mg of test just to get my lil jonny going

after 5hours my left shoulder is still numb good thing im pinning on off days!
 
Yh buddy i'd get your bf% atleast below 14! Iknow you have winny but them few pounds ar so easy to get rid of, why let tge steriods do the easy work? When you at 14% then let them do tge hard work ;)
 
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