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Proposed OTC M-Drol Cycle...

LuckyKid57

LuckyKid57

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Background: I have experience running PH's, and have always ran an OTCPCT. I have never ran anything as harsh as M-Drol. Mostly just stuck with Halodrol and Epi. I have successfully run a halodrol cycle at 50/50/75/75/100 with and OTCPCT protocol that went quite well, and was wondering if something like the following could ever be considered for a compound as intense as M-Drol.

Weeks 1-2: Pre-load Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support, 10g fish oil each day minimum
Weeks 3-5: M-Drol at 10/20/20, Cycle Support, 10g fish oil (minimum)

Propose OTCPCT...
Weeks 6-7: IBE Formex, AI Cycle Support, AI Post Cycle Support, 600mg/day I3C
Weeks 8-9: IBE Formex, AI Post Cycle Support, 600mg/day I3C Lean Xtreme (carried out after PCT until finished


I DO NOT have access to a true SERM such as nolvadex/clomid. I will not run M-Drol unless the general public on AM believes the chances of staying safe are high enough with this OTCPCT. My main concerns are obviously gyno and being out of it for too long. As far as loss of gains, I hope to maintain at least 6 lbs lbm after PCT. I figure 2 lbs a week on M-Drol is a pretty modest goal. As I said, I do understand that there is normally a need for a SERM, I guess the main question I have is with the added Formex, does it strengthen PCT enough so the chances are balanced out. Safety is my concern, but I do understand that with even a SERM there is a risk. Is this risk worth taking with M-Drol when I can run this protocol?
 
most recommend serm for m-drol, i personally wouldnt want to cycle anything harsh at all without one but thats just me
 
LuckyKid57 said:
Background: I have experience running PH's, and have always ran an OTCPCT. I have never ran anything as harsh as M-Drol. Mostly just stuck with Halodrol and Epi. I have successfully run a halodrol cycle at 50/50/75/75/100 with and OTCPCT protocol that went quite well, and was wondering if something like the following could ever be considered for a compound as intense as M-Drol.

Weeks 1-2: Pre-load Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support, 10g fish oil each day minimum
Weeks 3-5: M-Drol at 10/20/20, Cycle Support, 10g fish oil (minimum)

Propose OTCPCT...
Weeks 6-7: IBE Formex, AI Cycle Support, AI Post Cycle Support, 600mg/day I3C
Weeks 8-9: IBE Formex, AI Post Cycle Support, 600mg/day I3C Lean Xtreme (carried out after PCT until finished


I DO NOT have access to a true SERM such as nolvadex/clomid. I will not run M-Drol unless the general public on AM believes the chances of staying safe are high enough with this OTCPCT. My main concerns are obviously gyno and being out of it for too long. As far as loss of gains, I hope to maintain at least 6 lbs lbm after PCT. I figure 2 lbs a week on M-Drol is a pretty modest goal. As I said, I do understand that there is normally a need for a SERM, I guess the main question I have is with the added Formex, does it strengthen PCT enough so the chances are balanced out. Safety is my concern, but I do understand that with even a SERM there is a risk. Is this risk worth taking with M-Drol when I can run this protocol?
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L/K 57,

If you're set on using a OTC PCT especially if you can not aquire a SERM, I would look into I-Force's Reversitol. There have been a few logs where it was used after a m-drol run and they recovered fine. Also, keep taking the other support supplements during and after cycle, (ie) AI's cycle support, post cycle support, fish oil.....etc and for what ever my 2 cents are worth take a good multivitamin as well. I do have prior AAS use and decided to give the OTC PTC a run, I will be using I-Force Reversitol along with other supplements.

I just started my cycle and its a bridge into m-drol, here is some of the supporting supp. I take;

Now Foods Adam Multivitamin, Now Foods Liver Detoxifer & Regenorator, Fish Oil - 4000mg daily, plus total milk thistle daily is 1200mg, RYR 1200mg daily and so on and so on...... regardless good luck with the cycle and keep us posted, I'm gonna log before after pics along with stats; before, during, post cycle and after post cycle
 
LuckyKid57 said:
Background: I have experience running PH's, and have always ran an OTCPCT. I have never ran anything as harsh as M-Drol. Mostly just stuck with Halodrol and Epi. I have successfully run a halodrol cycle at 50/50/75/75/100 with and OTCPCT protocol that went quite well, and was wondering if something like the following could ever be considered for a compound as intense as M-Drol.

Weeks 1-2: Pre-load Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support, 10g fish oil each day minimum
Weeks 3-5: M-Drol at 10/20/20, Cycle Support, 10g fish oil (minimum)

Propose OTCPCT...
Weeks 6-7: IBE Formex, AI Cycle Support, AI Post Cycle Support, 600mg/day I3C
Weeks 8-9: IBE Formex, AI Post Cycle Support, 600mg/day I3C Lean Xtreme (carried out after PCT until finished


I DO NOT have access to a true SERM such as nolvadex/clomid. I will not run M-Drol unless the general public on AM believes the chances of staying safe are high enough with this OTCPCT. My main concerns are obviously gyno and being out of it for too long. As far as loss of gains, I hope to maintain at least 6 lbs lbm after PCT. I figure 2 lbs a week on M-Drol is a pretty modest goal. As I said, I do understand that there is normally a need for a SERM, I guess the main question I have is with the added Formex, does it strengthen PCT enough so the chances are balanced out. Safety is my concern, but I do understand that with even a SERM there is a risk. Is this risk worth taking with M-Drol when I can run this protocol?
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L/K 57,

I forgot to list my entire pct, sorry!

I-Force, Reversitol: SERM like product, Ingredients also include 6 Bromo, ATD and I3C

USP Labs, Supper Cissus RX: Anti-Catabolic (preserves muscle growth), Keeps body in positive Nitrogen Balance as long as it's taken, lowers cortisol and helps with rebuilding tendons and ligaments ( I had shoulder surgery in August of 08)

Gaspari, Size On: Creatine Product or possibly Plasma Jet instead (any thoughts??)

Controlled Labs, Blue Up: Testosterone Booster

Optimum Nutrition, Pro Complex: Protein (Adding more protein to diet during post cycle)

and of course all the supporting supplements..............hopes this helps some
 
I greatly appreciate the input from you guys. I looked up I-Force Reversitol and I am pretty impressed with it as far a Resveratrol product is concerned. Maybe this PCT Protocol could be considered, but I do not want to go overboard (however, I don't know how any OTC can be overboard with m-drol)...

1-2: Cycle Support, Post Cycle Support, Formex, ZMA, 600mg I3C
3-4: Same as 1-2, but also cycle in the I-Force Reversitol (so I have a steady flow of trans res and do not get too aggressive against the estrogen immediately after cycle), Lean Xtreme
5-6: Reversitol, Lean Xtreme
 
There is enough worry so far for me to decide on not continuing with M-Drol. Health comes first, and as there is a risk with any PH, it seems the caliber of the risk with M-Drol when not using a SERM is enough to deter from me continuing with a cycle at this current time.

Thanks a lot for the help guys! I'll probably just run some Epi again =).
 
LuckyKid57 said:
There is enough worry so far for me to decide on not continuing with M-Drol. Health comes first, and as there is a risk with any PH, it seems the caliber of the risk with M-Drol when not using a SERM is enough to deter from me continuing with a cycle at this current time.

Thanks a lot for the help guys! I'll probably just run some Epi again =).
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Good move bro.:)
 
if you are def not going the serm route...then consider this:

1. formastane good choice after m-drol...because:
A. formestane as affinity to 5ar and reduces progeterone recptors which even though m-drol has no progesterone activity helps prevent gyno as one recovers post cycle. also very effective at clearing estrogen from tissue sensitive sites
B. m-drol has strong affinity for ar, as a result estro to test ratio is some what made off balance by this and possible sides like gyno may flare up in pct or later, however formastane lowers shbg thus creating free test and some,( due to what u are running in pct), free estro, bringing a better hormonal balance.
C. cosmetically speaking formestane exibits a good adrogenic kick with out the sides and icreases igf. which equate to maintaning and building muscle in pct.

in conclusion, i think you will be ok with your proposed pct. however, i perfer clomid based pct.
finally, i would like to see you add Propionyl-L-Carnitine at 2 grams every day of pct as this will help your body greatly after M-drol TRUST ME. 2nd please consider adding 4 more weeks to your pct with Titanium and ERASE stacked.
 
why run one of the most potent orals you can find of any type and not use a SERM in pct for it??




If you look at what real AAS inj cycle PCT's look at Nolva and Clomid are the only two things normally in there. Maybe a small bit of letro or adex but thats it.

Running OTC pct is a waste unless its for something light. Why put your body threw hell to gain 15lb and lose 12 all in 6-7wks?
 
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