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Estrogren and muscle growth

Dahollow

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Hello,

I've been reading many different opinions on the role estrogen could or could not play in muscle growth.

People on a cycle (eg Test) many times use an AI to prevent bloating and gyno.

Many times I read that your body needs the extra estrogen to improve your gains.

Now is my question:

Are the above mentioned gains mainly water retention (due to estrogen) and thus not real lean muscle mass?

Is there any scientific evidence (meaning not the typical bro-science) stating the importance of estrogen in muscle growth during a cycle?

I for one, do not see the point in gaining 15-20lbs and losing half because it was plain water retention.

Your opinions and if possible scientific literature?
 
personally i think reducing e too much can hinder growth IT when the e is in excess and causes problems such as gyno , that it becomes an issue.

have a read of this written by william llewellyn Invalid Link Removed
 
It depends on the individual. I personally would rather take Nolva through the cycle. It doesn't make a huge difference in growth for me. I don't always use AI's though, just Nolva during the cycle.

People who claim estrogen is good for growth say it plays a role in IGF-1 and HGH release in the body and glucose utilization.

I say if you're prone OR concerned about gyno then take a SERM or an AI.
 
Iron Warrior said:
It depends on the individual. I personally would rather take Nolva through the cycle. It doesn't make a huge difference in growth for me. I don't always use AI's though, just Nolva during the cycle.

People who claim estrogen is good for growth say it plays a role in IGF-1 and HGH release in the body and glucose utilization.

I say if you're prone OR concerned about gyno then take a SERM or an AI.
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You are right. The slightly less gains do not weigh up against le bitch tits. I'll keep using my AI.
 
Iron Warrior said:
It depends on the individual. I personally would rather take Nolva through the cycle. It doesn't make a huge difference in growth for me. I don't always use AI's though, just Nolva during the cycle.

People who claim estrogen is good for growth say it plays a role in IGF-1 and HGH release in the body and glucose utilization.

I say if you're prone OR concerned about gyno then take a SERM or an AI.
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yes but nolva decreases igf so its a double edged sword... also in a cycle with orals thats added stress on the liver
 
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