Many reviews (Redefine Nutrition, LG Sciences and various pwo- and fat loss stuff!)

[ConcreteConny]

Hello guys, it has been a while since I last time wrote here.

Today I will try AMS Pump Fixx (Fruit punch flavour), thanks Royd The Noyd for letting me try it!

As you guys know, I've tried many preworkout powders and my favourite so far has been N.O. Ignite. Let's see if Pump Fixx can change that

First I hate to say that I'm not expecting any personal bests today. I just came home from work (morning shift) and I feel really tired. I have never needed a good preworkout drink this much My last week was light week so it's time to train seriously today.

Stay tuned, I'll write more after my workout in few hours

Kill those weights bruther :firedevil:

I'm in for a dreadful cardio day

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Kill those weights bruther :firedevil:

I'm in for a dreadful cardio day

Haha, I was supposed to start doing cardio but I wasn't man enough to do it

I forgot to mention about my current Natadrol cycle..
Haven't weighed myself in many days but last time I checked I was up 6lbs. Last week my appetite kind of disappeared for some reason but now it's back up again.. Maybe it was a sign that I needed to take few days easy which I decided to do and already did. Had even one bad workout last week, first of it kind during this cycle Now I'm ready to bust my ass again.

 

[g0hardorgohom]

First impressions - wow. Pump Fixx is carbonated and tastes really good. I would rank this #2 just after Launch what it comes to taste. Usually I don't like fruit punch at all but this was totally different.

I took just one scoop (recommended dose is 1-3 scoops) because I'm quite sensitive to stimulants and I don't want it to suppres my appetite. Even with that low dose it gave me nice energy boost, clean energy without appetite suppression or crash. Much like N.O. Ignite. I was surprised how well it affected me with so low dose because I was really, I mean REALLY tired after work. I actually did few PR's which surprised me. I'm very impressed so far. I'll take 1.5 scoops of it before Saturdays workout and write more then.

It seems like this could be a good challenger to N.O. Ignite. After first dose I'd rank it over Jack3d, Launch 4350, No-Xplode and Black Powder anytime but let's see what I think when I've used it for longer time. Stay tuned.

 

[ScottyDoc]

Good Log, we need more guys like you trying all the products and giving informative, accurate and non-biased opinions on the different products out there with good comparison/contrasts... Me Likey!

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Yeah, I think it's my duty to make it easier for other gymrats to decide what products to use or not. I'm always irritated when I'm trying to find some info about not-so-popular product and can't find it!

Invalid Link Removed Check this thread out, more info about my experiences with Pump Fixx

 

[ConcreteConny]

I agree with ScottyDoc, this log is great since you are trying different products on a regular basis. Makes it easy to compare results when switching between products every time :thumbsup:

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Yeah. And it's a fact that single trial does not give enough information for further comparison so it's good that I have more than single serving of each product.

 

[g0hardorgohom]

I just got more goodies to try.. 2 bottles of Redefine Nutrition Finaflex ALC + CLA, thanks again ScottyDoc! If I decide to do summer cut, these will be the base of it. I also got more samples of Finaflex Pro Xanthine 500-XT so I have plenty of stimulated fat burners too.

BTW ScottyDoc, I suppose you didn't get my PM about that Cell Shock thing last week?

 

[ScottyDoc]

BTW ScottyDoc, I suppose you didn't get my PM about that Cell Shock thing last week?

No, I didn't, I'm sorry I think my PM mailbox might have been full or something. Please re-send it!

 

[johnsar]

I just took a whole pouch of N.O. Ignite Grape Frenzy. Damn it tastes good! It smells like some kind of perfume and tastes very good. It doesn't taste much like grape IMO but it's very delicious! Even better than Jack3d Lemon Lime IMHO.. And if I should choose between N.O. Ignite Tropical Storm and Grape Frenzy, Grape Frenzy would be my choise.

I'm really excited about today's workout.. I can't squat because my lower back is still sore after deadlifts but I'm gonna do some heavy leg press sets instead.. I feel like I'm gonna make those weights fly!

I too, received a free sample of N.O Ignite.

The product is excellent. More energy and more focus. I have to say i havent used many pre workout formulas. Ive used Ultimate Orange when that was around and that just made my heart race.
This stuff is the real deal and I highly recommend it.

 

[g0hardorgohom]

I too, received a free sample of N.O Ignite.

The product is excellent. More energy and more focus. I have to say i havent used many pre workout formulas. Ive used Ultimate Orange when that was around and that just made my heart race.
This stuff is the real deal and I highly recommend it.

Yeah, it's really good stuff. IMO the biggest advance when compared to many other preworkout formulas is the lack of side-effects like appetite suppression and crash. Endurance/strength/pump/focus etc are pretty similar to what you get with Jack3d but there is much more side-effects in most other products, at least for me, but we should keep in mind that everyone is different.

The biggest thing I've learned about what kind of product to choose is that these "ultra concentrated" products are much better than those ones which have fillers etc in it. I will never again buy a preworkout product which has serving size of 20grams or so, no matter how much hype there is behind that product. Those powders just make my stomach hurt and tend to work nowhere near as good as "ultra concentrated" ones.

Another lesson that I've learned is to close your eyes from hype! If you have a chance to get free samples or to buy cheap samples of some product from not-so-well-known company, go for it! It doesn't cost much for you and maybe you will even find something that works better than your current favourite!

 

[g0hardorgohom]

For those of you who haven seen my AMS Pump Fixx review thread, here is some summa summarum after three times of using:

It is very similar to N.O. Ignite what it comes to stimulating effect. Both gives smooth, clean energy without side-effects. It's impossible to say which one is better in this area, both products are top notch and very pleasant to use.

Pumps are quite similar to these other products, slightly weaker than those what SAN Launch gives me (it contains creatine nitrate).

Taste is really good like I said before, Launch is only one that has tasted better IMO.

What gives advantage to Pump Fixx when compared to any other preworkout formula I've tried, is that it gives me phenomenal endurance! Yesterday I managed to do 17x290lbs in deadlifts and that was after I had failed with bigger weights. It felt like I still had strength to do few more reps.. I think it has to be because of creatinol-O-phosphate because I've never tried any other preworkout formula that contains it and no other seems to give me that kind of endurance/stamina.

 

[ConcreteConny]

SAN Launch :think: Sounds like a solid product, might have to give that a try


//CC

 

[g0hardorgohom]

SAN Launch :think: Sounds like a solid product, might have to give that a try


//CC

If you are a stim junkie, give it a try! But if you are sensitive for stims, just like me, it may be too much But it tastes so good that I actually enjoy sipping it

 

[ConcreteConny]

If you are a stim junkie, give it a try! But if you are sensitive for stims, just like me, it may be too much But it tastes so good that I actually enjoy sipping it

A Stim junkie I am :firedevil:

 

[ScottyDoc]

A Stim junkie I am :firedevil:

Look Bro, if you are truly a Stim junkie, then you need to give this stuff we sell at one of our Nutrition stores (in no way affiliated with Redefine Nutrition) a try... it is called "Black Mamba" pure Crack, you'll Love it!

 

[ScottyDoc]

A Stim junkie I am :firedevil:

Like I said, we here at REDEFINE NUTRITION are not affiliated with that product, but we do own our own branch of Nutrition stores here local to the Atlanta, Georgia area called XTREME NUTRITION and Black Mamba is the strongest stimulant based fat-burner we carry in our stores!

 

[ScottyDoc]

Me personally, I am like g0hardorgohom, I am sensitive to these highly stimulated products and prefer a calmer more "Mental-Focus" style energy intensifier, like we have so effectively put together in our PRO-XANTHINE & N.O. IGNITE!

 

[g0hardorgohom]

I was chosen to log Need To Build Muscle's strength/pump product called Attack. It's interesting, I've never tried a product like that. Here is supplement facts:

30 servings per bottle
3 caps per serving
A-AKG(arginine alpha-Ketogularate) 2985mg
A-KIC (arginine Ketoisocaproate) 15mg
OKG (ornithine alpha-ketoglutarate) 75mg
GKG (glutamine alpha-ketoglutarate) 75mg

I will post a link to my log when it arrives if somebody is interested to know what I think about it. Honestly, I don't even know what to expect... A-AKG is the only ingredient that I'm already familiar with.

 

[ConcreteConny]

Look Bro, if you are truly a Stim junkie, then you need to give this stuff we sell at one of our Nutrition stores (in no way affiliated with Redefine Nutrition) a try... it is called "Black Mamba" pure Crack, you'll Love it!

Well I'm on Ephedrine (the ECA stack) right now and loving it Might give Black Mamba a try on my next cut though. Thanks for the tip

I was chosen to log Need To Build Muscle's strength/pump product called Attack. It's interesting, I've never tried a product like that. Here is supplement facts:

30 servings per bottle
3 caps per serving
A-AKG(arginine alpha-Ketogularate) 2985mg
A-KIC (arginine Ketoisocaproate) 15mg
OKG (ornithine alpha-ketoglutarate) 75mg
GKG (glutamine alpha-ketoglutarate) 75mg

I will post a link to my log when it arrives if somebody is interested to know what I think about it. Honestly, I don't even know what to expect... A-AKG is the only ingredient that I'm already familiar with.

OKG is a great ingredient

 

[g0hardorgohom]

It's pay day later this week and I decided to order some new supplements to try :firedevil:

I won't order any preworkout formulas this time because I'm perfectly satisfied with Pump Fixx and N.O. Ignite and I have plenty of Launch left too. It will take some time to use all those powders

I decided that I'll try something totally different to anything I've used before. I am a "hardgainer" so appetite stimulator could be interesting product to try. I'll have to order from inside the Europe so there is not too many options in that category - just two actually. Black Hole by Controlled Labs and Ravenous by Anabolic Designs. I've read that Black Hole can make you a little bit light-headed and it's not recommended to drive a car after taking it. I have to drive every day because of work so I had to exclude Black Hole. But I will probably try Ravenous (Lol, everyone else is trying to cut down for summer but I'm still bulking up and aiming to be fatter than ever )

Another supplement I've been interested about is nutrient partitioner. I don't know which one would be the best... Anabolic Innovations offers sample packets of their Glycobol so I may try it. Slin-Sane by Genomyx might be good too But I have to talk about this with NTBM guys, I don't know if nutrient partitioners would somehow mess with the effect of Attack which I'm logging in few weeks.

I'm a shift worker and I've very hard times trying to wake up for morning shifts. So I'd like to try some kind of phenibut-free sleep aid. There is plenty of them out there but most are more like GH-boosters and less like sleep aids. So this is gonna be between Nocturnabol by AMS and Need 2 Sleep by Need To Build Muscle. Latter one has more mg's in it and more servings per bottle so it may be my choice.

Another product I've been interested in for quite some time is Cell Shock by Redefine Nutrition. So let's see what I will order... Here is briefly what I've been thinking of:

- Ravenous by Anabolic Designs
- Glycobol by Anabolic Innovations
- Slin-Sane by Genomyx
- Need 2 Sleep by Need To Build Muscle
- Cell Shock by Redefine Nutrition

Everything depends on what is in stock when I'll place that order. I will write something about those products here and probably start separate threads for logs or reviews.

If you have suggestions about what product(s) to try, don't hesitate to say it! Preworkout products, fat burners, testosterone boosters and prohormones are excluded!

Oh, and my Natadrol cycle will be over after 2-3 weeks and I'll start a PCT then. It consists of these products: Pure Test by Redefine Nutrition and Formadrol Extreme by LG Sciences. I'll tell you what I think about these bad boys when I know more!

My current cycle is going really well btw. Weight is not going up anymore but strength is increasing really fast. Last Saturday I deadlifted 19x300lbs!

 

[g0hardorgohom]

I just placed an order because I noticed that there was 10% discount at my trusted store I didn't order either Need 2 Sleep nor Nocturnabol cuz I realized that melatonin is in the list of controlled substances in Finland - dunno why though. I don't know if they even care about it but didn't want to take a chance. CC, have you ever order melatonin from UK? Is there any risk that they could open the package and get mad about extremely dangerous stuff like melatonin?

Here is what I ordered:
- Ravenous
- Slin-Sane
- Glycobol
- And I'll get some samples too

They didn't have Cell Shock

I ordered some nastier stuff too, just in case that I will jump into the world of prohormones Not gonna do that in a year or two though. I ordered a bottle of M-LMG, D-Plex and Alpha One and I already have a bottle of Havoc and Methdrol so I'm pretty well stocked up for future

 

[ScottyDoc]

Another product I've been interested in for quite some time is Cell Shock by Redefine Nutrition. So let's see what I will order...

Hey bro, I so wish I could send you a jug of CELL SHOCK, I even talked to my bossesses about it a few months ago when we were sending stuff out like crazy for people to beta-test/log on, but the shipping on that large jug is more expensive than what we sell it for, much less what it costs to make, as a matter of fact it is almost the same cost to ship as it is to buy in our local nutrition stores. Unfortunately international shipping is based on weight!

Anyway, on behalf of myself and REDEFINE NUTRITION, we as always appreciate your honesty and integrity when doing your logs and comparisons, keep up the good work. I am definitely a huge follower and supporter of your posts!

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Hey bro, I so wish I could send you a jug of CELL SHOCK, I even talked to my bossesses about it a few months ago when we were sending stuff out like crazy for people to beta-test/log on, but the shipping on that large jug is more expensive than what we sell it for, much less what it costs to make, as a matter of fact it is almost the same cost to ship as it is to buy in our local nutrition stores. Unfortunately international shipping is based on weight!

Anyway, on behalf of myself and REDEFINE NUTRITION, we as always appreciate your honesty and integrity when doing your logs and comparisons, keep up the good work. I am definitely a huge follower and supporter of your posts!

Yeah I know, that's another reason along with possible customs issues that I wouldn't like to order stuff from overseas. Shipping costs like four times more than what it costs from UK

Thanks for your support

Thanks for the support! Many new logs/reviews should be popping out in few weeks. I'm pretty excited of those new supplements

 

[ConcreteConny]

I just placed an order because I noticed that there was 10% discount at my trusted store I didn't order either Need 2 Sleep nor Nocturnabol cuz I realized that melatonin is in the list of controlled substances in Finland - dunno why though. I don't know if they even care about it but didn't want to take a chance. CC, have you ever order melatonin from UK? Is there any risk that they could open the package and get mad about extremely dangerous stuff like melatonin?

Here is what I ordered:
- Ravenous
- Slin-Sane
- Glycobol
- And I'll get some samples too

They didn't have Cell Shock

I ordered some nastier stuff too, just in case that I will jump into the world of prohormones Not gonna do that in a year or two though. I ordered a bottle of M-LMG, D-Plex and Alpha One and I already have a bottle of Havoc and Methdrol so I'm pretty well stocked up for future

Yeah, I've ordered the Nocturnabol No problems with customs, if they seize it you just tell them you "didn't know" it was a controlled substance, not everyone is an expert Or you can tell them the ingredients were not listed on the website you bought it from :lol:

I'd like to see a review of Controlled Labs - Black Hole. I've read mixed reviews on the stuff and been meaning to give it a try..

Nice stack you got going there on PH's. If you decide not to jump on those sometime in the future, be sure to inform me and I'll be happy to buy them

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Yeah, I've ordered the Nocturnabol No problems with customs, if they seize it you just tell them you "didn't know" it was a controlled substance, not everyone is an expert Or you can tell them the ingredients were not listed on the website you bought it from :lol:

I'd like to see a review of Controlled Labs - Black Hole. I've read mixed reviews on the stuff and been meaning to give it a try..

Nice stack you got going there on PH's. If you decide not to jump on those sometime in the future, be sure to inform me and I'll be happy to buy them

Yeah, I may order N2Sleep or Nocturnabol next time then...

I'm really interested about Black Hole too but decided to go with Ravenous this time

Yeah, I'll inform you if that's the case someday

 

[ConcreteConny]

I just had a look at N.O. Ignite out of pure interest to try it after reading your feedback.
I discovered it contains a lot of stimulants along with Schizandrol-A & Theophylline :thumbsup:

Some similarities to Jack3d except they removed the Theophylline :sad:
Happy to see this product out there!!

//CC

 

[ScottyDoc]

I just had a look at N.O. Ignite out of pure interest to try it after reading your feedback.
I discovered it contains a lot of stimulants along with Schizandrol-A & Theophylline :thumbsup:

Some similarities to Jack3d except they removed the Theophylline :sad:
Happy to see this product out there!!

//CC

Have you emailed us at [email protected] and requested a sample kit of our products, we usually always include 1 packet (2 servings/packet) of each flavor (grape frenzy & tropical storm) of N.O. IGNITE! Just make sure you specify that you really want to sample the N.O. IGNITE in your sample request email and you will get them! Just put sample kit in the subject and your name and mailing information in the body with an additional sentence stating that you are extremely interested in trying our N.O. IGNITE and it will be shipped to you ASAP. Thanks for the support!

 

[cousineerie]

Lots of good info in this thread!

 

[g0hardorgohom]

I just had a look at N.O. Ignite out of pure interest to try it after reading your feedback.
I discovered it contains a lot of stimulants along with Schizandrol-A & Theophylline :thumbsup:

Some similarities to Jack3d except they removed the Theophylline :sad:
Happy to see this product out there!!

//CC

Yeah But I bet N.O. Ignite doesn't contain as much 1,3-dmaa as Jack3d does..

Have you emailed us at [email protected] and requested a sample kit of our products, we usually always include 1 packet (2 servings/packet) of each flavor (grape frenzy & tropical storm) of N.O. IGNITE! Just make sure you specify that you really want to sample the N.O. IGNITE in your sample request email and you will get them! Just put sample kit in the subject and your name and mailing information in the body with an additional sentence stating that you are extremely interested in trying our N.O. IGNITE and it will be shipped to you ASAP. Thanks for the support!

This is what you all should too, you can't lose anything!

Lots of good info in this thread!

That's the purpose of this thread

 

[ScottyDoc]

That's the purpose of this thread

I concurrrr....
​

 

[g0hardorgohom]

^^Great movie btw!

 

[ConcreteConny]

Yeah But I bet N.O. Ignite doesn't contain as much 1,3-dmaa as Jack3d does..

Well I have 25mg DMAA caps stocked up and am used to downing three of them so :fool2:

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Well I have 25mg DMAA caps stocked up and am used to downing three of them so :fool2:

Then you're good to go... If you don't feel stimmed enough, those caps will help you for sure

 

[g0hardorgohom]

My bottle of Attack arrived today

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[g0hardorgohom]

...and I just ordered a bottle of Need2Sleep, I'll review that too And few samples of Syntrax Nectar protein powder, I have wanted to taste it for a long time and now I will! Flavours are Strawberry Kiwi and Roadside Lemonade, sounds tasty...

I ordered more stuff to my prohormone stash too.. 1 bottle of Estrabolan (tren clone) and 2 bottles of Delta 2 (2-androsterone :O) Now I have enough ph's for 8 cycles and yet I've never ran any, lol

 

[ScottyDoc]

...and I just ordered a bottle of Need2Sleep, I'll review that too And few samples of Syntrax Nectar protein powder, I have wanted to taste it for a long time and now I will! Flavours are Strawberry Kiwi and Roadside Lemonade, sounds tasty...

I ordered more stuff to my prohormone stash too.. 1 bottle of Estrabolan (tren clone) and 2 bottles of Delta 2 (2-androsterone :O) Now I have enough ph's for 8 cycles and yet I've never ran any, lol

Damn, you go boy, you are stocked for winter I'll tell you that much, LOL! I can't wait to read your reviews, as they are always very informative, honest and non-biased, I love that!

BTW, if you need or want any dietary advice, whether you are trying to increase overall mass, just muscle mass, lean out, or attempt both (very hard) I've done it all and could be of assistance if you want.

 

[g0hardorgohom]

BTW, if you need or want any dietary advice, whether you are trying to increase overall mass, just muscle mass, lean out, or attempt both (very hard) I've done it all and could be of assistance if you want.

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind I'm still bulking up, just too slowly... I just need to eat more and more and more. I remember when 3000kcals was enough for me to gain weight fast but not anymore :S Hopefully Ravenous will help me to eat crazy amounts of calories! Now I've been getting 4000-5000 in good days and less in bad days.

Now I'm eating 7 times a day. 30-50 grams of protein in every meal except breakfast. It's hard for me to eat in mornings.. I should up my carb intake a little especially now when I'm gonna start using nutrient repartioners (Slin-Sane or Glycobol). I should consume 60-100 grams of carbs with each meal to avoid hypeglycemia and to maximize the effect of nutrient repartioners but I'm not getting that much yet.

 

[ScottyDoc]

Now I'm eating 7 times a day. 30-50 grams of protein in every meal except breakfast. It's hard for me to eat in mornings..

If you are having a hard time getting enough protein in the morning, along with whatever you are eating, add a protein shake to the mix, I mean if you are already getting like 25g of protein with your food, then just mix in one scoop (typically 20-25g protein)or obviously more if necessary to hit your 50g of protein per meal. My best advice for hard gainers has always been Steak and Potatoes at least 1 x daily!

 

[g0hardorgohom]

If you are having a hard time getting enough protein in the morning, along with whatever you are eating, add a protein shake to the mix, I mean if you are already getting like 25g of protein with your food, then just mix in one scoop (typically 20-25g protein)or obviously more if necessary to hit your 50g of protein per meal. My best advice for hard gainers has always been Steak and Potatoes at least 1 x daily!

Yep, I drink protein shakes every now and then. Now I ordered Syntrax Nectar samples in order to find out if it is so good that I could drink it just for the taste!

 

[ScottyDoc]

Yep, I drink protein shakes every now and then. Now I ordered Syntrax Nectar samples in order to find out if it is so good that I could drink it just for the taste!

I love your Avatar by the way. What are your stats? Height..Weight..approx. Body-fat? and Age if you don't mind? Also, what are your muscle building and fat % goals (immediate and long-term)?

 

[g0hardorgohom]

I love your Avatar by the way. What are your stats? Height..Weight..approx. Body-fat? and Age if you don't mind? Also, what are your muscle building and fat % goals (immediate and long-term)?

Weight is about 160lbs. Height.. I don't know, haven't been measured since I was at junior high and that's years ago. I was little over 5'6" and 100lbs then but it's possible that I grew a little during the college.. I weighed a little less than 110lbs when I started training so I've gained over 50lbs so far.

Bodyfat was 12% few months ago. It's now bigger but not much, it seems almost impossible for me to gain fat I think it's about 13% now.

Age... university age so I am not a teen anymore but not very old either.

I like my avatar too It's not me in that pic but pretty much as muscular as I was when I started lifting Invalid Link Removed is a photo of me before I learned how to eat and train (had been hitting the gym for some time already though) and Invalid Link Removed is me after my first succesful bulk, 5 months later and 20lbs heavier. And Invalid Link Removed is my back from January. Now I am about 7lbs heavier.

EDIT: Goals... 165lbs (morning weight) at next July. I wouldn't mind about some extra fat because it's very easy for me to strip them off... But if I will gain just few lbs, it's better be lean mass

Long term goal is to be a beast +200lbs with single digit bodyfat. But I'm a realist and I know it will take years if not decades. And there is another thing... I want to hit 170lbs with single digit bodyfat before jumping into the dark side. If I'm lucky, I'll be lean 170lbs at the end of 2012. I just have to deal with my military service first (gonna start that next July) so I won't build much muscle when I'm trying to be a soldier.. During that time my only goal is to maintain as much as possible of already gained mass.

EDIT: I destroyed those links because I want to save my anonyminity and my tat would betray me, lol

 

[ScottyDoc]

Weight is about 160lbs. Height.. I don't know, haven't been measured since I was at junior high and that's years ago. I was little over 5'6" and 100lbs then but it's possible that I grew a little during the college.. I weighed a little less than 110lbs when I started training so I've gained over 50lbs so far.

Bodyfat was 12% few months ago. It's now bigger but not much, it seems almost impossible for me to gain fat I think it's about 13% now.

Age... university age so I am not a teen anymore but not very old either.

I like my avatar too It's not me in that pic but pretty much as muscular as I was when I started lifting Invalid Link Removed is a photo of me before I learned how to eat and train (had been hitting the gym for some time already though) and Invalid Link Removed is me after my first succesful bulk, 5 months later and 20lbs heavier. And Invalid Link Removed is my back from January. Now I am about 7lbs heavier.

EDIT: Goals... 165lbs (morning weight) at next July. I wouldn't mind about some extra fat because it's very easy for me to strip them off... But if I will gain just few lbs, it's better be lean mass

Long term goal is to be a beast +200lbs with single digit bodyfat. But I'm a realist and I know it will take years if not decades. And there is another thing... I want to hit 170lbs with single digit bodyfat before jumping into the dark side. If I'm lucky, I'll be lean 170lbs at the end of 2012. I just have to deal with my military service first (gonna start that next July) so I won't build much muscle when I'm trying to be a soldier.. During that time my only goal is to maintain as much as possible of already gained mass.

That is some awesome progress, thanks for sharing! Yeah, it is going to be hard for you to gain any weight while in the military, hopefully you will be able to maintain. 200 Lbs in the single digits is not an impossible goal, took me about 15yrs of solid training before I was able to hit that goal, but I did it just recently when I dropped down to 5.3% @ 203Lbs, the time before that, exactly two years before that I dropped down to like 183Lbs in order to get to 4.6%, which is the picture in my Avatar.

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Tomorrow is the last day of my current Natadrol cycle. I've run it for over 7 weeks and gained 7.5lbs and lot of strength during that time.

Before the cycle my heaviest set of front squats (ass to grass) was 9x170lbs. Last week I did 5x205lbs.

Before the cycle my best long set of deadlift was 9x305lbs. Few weeks ago I did 19x300lbs.

Before the cycle I did 16 chin-ups after doing few heavier sets with extra weight. Now I can do 20 and my body is 7.5lbs heavier

Strength went up just like that with other exercises too so I'm very satisfied with this cycle No side-effects except oily skin and few pimples. I slept my night quite well too.

On Wednesday I'll start the PCT which consists of Pure Test by Redefine Nutrition and Formadrol Extreme by LG Sciences. I will take 6 caps of Pure Test spreaded in 3 doses... I'll take it for 20 days.

I'll use Formadrol Extreme for 4 weeks... 3 caps a day for two first weeks, 2 caps a day at week 3 and 1 cap a day at week 4.

What I am expecting for this PCT stack? Well, it's hard to say because I don't actually think I would need any PCT. I don't feel "shut down" at all, my libido is as good as ever and I didn't notice any testicular atrophy. But I know that I won't be making as good strenght gains anymore as I did during the cycle. I just hope that Pure Test and Formadrol Extreme will help keeping my libido up and make it easier to maintain these gains and even continue gaining strenght and muscle!

ScottyDoc asked from Patrick Arnold whether it would be beneficial to take some sodium bicarbonate with Pure Test in order to force D-Aspartic Acid convert to Sodium-D-Aspartate and the answer was yes... So I'll take some sodium bicarbonate with every dose of Pure Test... I just don't know how much I should take it. Theoretically, sodium bicarbonate and D-Aspartic Acid produces just Sodium-D-Aspartate, carbon dioxide and water. If somebody knows the chemical structure of D-Aspartic Acid, tell it for me, please, so I could calculate how many mgs of sodium bicarbonate I will need in order to make all of that D-Aspartic Acid to convert to Sodium-D-Aspartate

 

[ScottyDoc]

ScottyDoc asked from Patrick Arnold whether it would be beneficial to take some sodium bicarbonate with Pure Test in order to force D-Aspartic Acid convert to Sodium-D-Aspartate and the answer was yes... So I'll take some sodium bicarbonate with every dose of Pure Test... I just don't know how much I should take it. Theoretically, sodium bicarbonate and D-Aspartic Acid produces just Sodium-D-Aspartate, carbon dioxide and water. If somebody knows the chemical structure of D-Aspartic Acid, tell it for me, please, so I could calculate how many mgs of sodium bicarbonate I will need in order to make all of that D-Aspartic Acid to convert to Sodium-D-Aspartate

You are 100% correct I did ask him and that is what he said, but come to think of it, I believe he preaches using Calcium bicarbonate in conjunction to D'Aspartic Acid, don't quote me on that, just do what you do best and poke around, I think I am right! I think when he was answering my question, he was just saying yes, that adding sodium bicarbonate works better than just taking the D'Aspartic Acid alone, not what he prefers over the Sodium Bicarbonate!

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Yeah, I've read that he uses calsium chelate and it is supposed to be better than sodium bicarbonate but I've no idea how to make it with ingredients that are available in regular grocery stores.. Gotta do some research, fortunately I'm a chemistry geek and I love doing stuff like this

 

[ScottyDoc]

Yeah, I've read that he uses calsium chelate and it is supposed to be better than sodium bicarbonate but I've no idea how to make it with ingredients that are available in regular grocery stores.. Gotta do some research, fortunately I'm a chemistry geek and I love doing stuff like this

I just wanted to make sure while I was thinking about it that I gave you the whole story and not just what you wanted to hear!

I agree... "You're one Fart Smella!" :stick:

 

[g0hardorgohom]

I just wanted to make sure while I was thinking about it that I gave you the whole story and not just what you wanted to hear!

Yup, you quoted the whole answer

"You're one Fart Smella!" :stick:

lmao

 

[g0hardorgohom]

I got my goodies today Three bottles: Slin-Sane, Ravenous and Glycobol. I'll take the first dose of Glycobol today with my post workout shake and first dose of Ravenous when I come home from work. Hopefully Ravenous helps because my appetite has sucked lately..

I also got a sample of Maximize V2. I'll try this next week. I've wanted to try it for some time but have never ordered it. Let's see how it compares to N.O. Ignite and Pump Fixx.. I've been off of stronger stims for few days now.. Still taking caffein preworkout though.

 

[g0hardorgohom]

Check my another log, I bet you haven't seen many logs like this! Invalid Link Removed

Ravenous seems promising so far!