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test e + hdrol first time injecting

itsgroll

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after years of thinking and researching as well as a few trial PH cycles with hdrol and mdrol, ive put together my first injectable cycle for the summer:

2 weeks prior to starting: CEL Cycle Assist
Week 1-4: CEL H-DROL 50/50/75/75
Week 3-14: Test E 250 Mondays & Thursday Mornings
Week 11-16: CEL H-DROL 50/75/75/75/100/100
Week 14: Clomid @200 for 4 days, & @150 for 3days
Week 15-17: Clomid 100/50/25
Week 14-17: Sustain Alpha & Lean Extreme

Im debating throwing in hCg in the mix but i am getting mixed thoughts...

also the one thing i havent researched are how to ACTUALLY inject :feedback: and what size needles as well as where to get them.

please critique
 
getpinzdotcom

22g 1.5" for glutes, 1" for everything else

If I remember correctly.

Good luck.
 
Ok I'll check it out...
Reading unreels guide to injecting, he sates that you use a drawing needle and a injecting needle. Do I really need two different kinds? Or will one satisfy both
 
itsgroll said:
Ok I'll check it out...
Reading unreels guide to injecting, he sates that you use a drawing needle and a injecting needle. Do I really need two different kinds? Or will one satisfy both
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Im sure you could use the same needle to draw and inject but a larger gauge would be easier to draw with, but more painful to stab yourself. Also, pushing the needle through the rubber stopper will dull the point which will again make injecting more painful.
 
he's correct - i got 18g for extracting, and 23g for injecting. BTW, I thought you had already started this cycle back in Feb 2011??
 
derker2008 said:
he's correct - i got 18g for extracting, and 23g for injecting. BTW, I thought you had already started this cycle back in Feb 2011??
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Things came up and I did not want to rush things. :) everything is in place, bought my house, moved, new gym and have all my gear. Ready to rock now!! I start Monday
 
jdj16 said:
Im sure you could use the same needle to draw and inject but a larger gauge would be easier to draw with, but more painful to stab yourself. Also, pushing the needle through the rubber stopper will dull the point which will again make injecting more painful.
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Ok, I've never seen this done. How do u take oil from one needle and put into a smaller gauge needle?

Video??
 
I can't speak from experience, but im pretty sure you keep the same syringe, but the actual needle screws on and off. So draw, unscrew the large gauge, screw on the smaller one, and inject.
 
jdj16 said:
I can't speak from experience, but im pretty sure you keep the same syringe, but the actual needle screws on and off. So draw, unscrew the large gauge, screw on the smaller one, and inject.
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Can someone else vouch for this?
 
he's correct, the needle is removeable and the fluid stays in the syringe, it's not difficult and there are like 500000000 videos on the internet on to how to do this, check it out.
 
Ok so thick gauge for drawing an small for injecting that's not rocket science. Haha
What are signs for a bad injection? Just incase...
Thanks
 
So do you think it's smart to run hcg the entire time...or just closer to the end of the cycle?
Also what about forma or a'dex as an AI?
 
personally, i'd run the hcg all the way through. i just know from my experience (ph, not anything injectible, but i'd assume it correlates fairly well) that hcg throughout the cycle makes pct an absolute breeze.

i really have no experience with ai's...so i can't help you there. sorry man.
 
i need to run Hcg i know that, im having trouble getting ahold of it. Email me please if you have a contact. Reps thanks!

my email has no spacing in it though ;)

i t s g r o l l @ g m a i l . c o m
 
strong years of researching

I think you should start the test with the hdrol, IMO

you'll use a smaller needle to inject the HCG into your fat
 
IMO I think 10-weeks of H-drol is too much. this is your first aas cycle. why don't you run 1-10 with Test E and run 4-6 weeks of H-drol either weeks 1-6 or 4-10?? The longer you spread out your cycle the onger your shutdown. this way your only "ON" for 10 weeks and then you can hop into PCT once test clears.....i guess you could run the h-drol while test clears but still i'd be trying to get off everything so pct is effective when you start running it 10 days or say after last injection.
 
Your correct, my first cycle was looking like test for 12 weeks, along with hdrol as a lick start for the first 4
Weeks. I want to use hcg as well
But I'm having trouble finding it.
 
FINALLY! i have everything i need. i have 2 weeks left on my oral cycle, than 6 weeks off and i will start the following July 1:

2 weeks prior to starting: CEL Cycle Assist
Week 1-4: CEL M-DROL 10/20/20/30
Week 1-12: Test E 250 Mondays & Thursday Mornings
Week 3-12: hCG 250iu Mondays & Thursday Evening
Week 9-14: CEL H-DROL 50/75/75/75/100/100
Week 14: Clomid @200 for 4 days, & @150 for 3days
Week 15-17: Clomid 100/50/25
Week 14-17: Sustain Alpha & Lean Extreme
 
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