11-oxo/Havoc

[ZoBnPURPZ]

I've ran each solo
epistane 20mg for 5 weeks
11 oxo 600mg 6 weeks


i'm looking to combine these both and maybe run 30mg for 4 weeks, and 11 oxo for 8 weeks at 600mg, how would I dose these? kickstar/bridge etc

close to 6%bf on week 1 of my bulk this week upping calories 200 each week for the next 8 weeks, going to stop for about a month and maintain seeing where my weight is at and seeing where I need to go from there. just incase you were wondering a few things

 

[ReyMan]

Since you've tested the waters with PH's why don't try something like pheraplex or superdrol? They are a ton better for a bulk.

 

[ZoBnPURPZ]

Since you've tested the waters with PH's why don't try something like pheraplex or superdrol? They are a ton better for a bulk.

I'm not really planning to put on muscle, Mostly looking for strength and lean mass.

Epistane and 11 oxo seem to be VERY LIGHT which is why i chose these 2.
I tried superdrol @ 10mg a week for 3 weeks, liked it, but did not like the sides...

ive read up on tren but meh im not too sure if the sides will be any less then SD.

 

[ReyMan]

I'm not really planning to put on muscle, Mostly looking for strength and lean mass.

Epistane and 11 oxo seem to be VERY LIGHT which is why i chose these 2.
I tried superdrol @ 10mg a week for 3 weeks, liked it, but did not like the sides...

ive read up on tren but meh im not too sure if the sides will be any less then SD.

Hmm, well when you run the same compound multiple times you're not going to see the same results. Have you thought of hdrol? Its gonna be similar to the epi but you will have a better chance of seeing the same results since the compound is new to your body.

 

[gymrat827]

up the doses on both compounds