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Androlean

benjiman said:
which one of these is the test base.
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Could be androlean OR andromass. Andromass would be more economical but the 1-test could counter some of the test base effects such as staving off lethargy. But I think it'll work out.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Could be androlean OR andromass. Andromass would be more economical but the 1-test could counter some of the test base effects such as staving off lethargy. But I think it'll work out.
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You know I was thinking it would be cool to see a solo 4ad, just for test purposes. What do you think BBG, or is Mass the answer?
 
rulk22 said:
You know I was thinking it would be cool to see a solo 4ad, just for test purposes. What do you think BBG, or is Mass the answer?
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Are you referring to a comparison? 4AD is illegal, so AM is THE best option out, and may just be better than 4AD was anyway imo.
 
Rodja said:
I was :D.
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m1t/4ad........iv done test inj and cant compete with the m1t/4ad stack....unreal size and strength inside 2wks,sadly short cycles and you drop almost all of it
 
sking6464 said:
m1t/4ad........iv done test inj and cant compete with the m1t/4ad stack....unreal size and strength inside 2wks,sadly short cycles and you drop almost all of it
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M1T weeks 1-4
1-Test TD weeks 1-8 or 10
4AD weeks 1-8 or 10

Gains were absurd, and easier to keep than methyl-based cycles.
 
if i got me some hands on androlean i would like to do androhard/androlean for a killer cut maybe some clen and t3 here and there=epic-ness
 
HereToStudy said:
Well you have hard on the way (or maybe you received it already), I could hook you up with a discount on lean. :think::wink1:
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i do have hard. thank you for that but i think i want to stack it with lean so im gonna try and save up.
 
I started my AL today and it says to dose upon rising. Now i wake up at 330am and dosed my 1st one at 4 and six hours later at 10am i took my second. Now i workout at 2pm. are the dosages to far from workout? Does it make a difference?
 
halfhuman said:
I started my AL today and it says to dose upon rising. Now i wake up at 330am and dosed my 1st one at 4 and six hours later at 10am i took my second. Now i workout at 2pm. are the dosages to far from workout? Does it make a difference?
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When do you sleep? Don't take the AL too close to when you're trying to go to bed, it may keep you up. We also try to minimize shutdown by having hormone levels drop off at night to allow a more natural hormonal rhythm.

You would benefit from dosing near the workout though.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
When do you sleep? Don't take the AL too close to when you're trying to go to bed, it may keep you up. We also try to minimize shutdown by having hormone levels drop off at night to allow a more natural hormonal rhythm.

You would benefit from dosing near the workout though.
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Heres my schedule: Wakeup at 330am. hit the gym at 2pm and go to bed at 7-8pm. So it dont really matter if i dose as soon as i wake up right? thats wat i assumed. So maybe dose say 7am and the second at 1pm and gym at 2pm?
 
halfhuman said:
Heres my schedule: Wakeup at 330am. hit the gym at 2pm and go to bed at 7-8pm. So it dont really matter if i dose as soon as i wake up right? thats wat i assumed. So maybe dose say 7am and the second at 1pm and gym at 2pm?
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You should be good as recommended.

Furbix said:
What kind of pct would be required for these andro products, particularly androlean?
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The Testosterone Recovery stack will have you covered.
 
halfhuman said:
Heres my schedule: Wakeup at 330am. hit the gym at 2pm and go to bed at 7-8pm. So it dont really matter if i dose as soon as i wake up right? thats wat i assumed. So maybe dose say 7am and the second at 1pm and gym at 2pm?
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I agree with HTS, how long have you been on this schedule?
 
ryansm said:
I agree with HTS, how long have you been on this schedule?
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Waking up and gym schedule is every week the same for years. Dosing just started on Mon. Today i took my first one at 7am and my next at 1pm than gym at 2pm
 
halfhuman said:
Waking up and gym schedule is every week the same for years. Dosing just started on Mon. Today i took my first one at 7am and my next at 1pm than gym at 2pm
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Should be fine then. Your circadian rhythm is stabilized with your current schedule after that long of time.
 
ryansm said:
Should be fine then. Your circadian rhythm is stabilized with your current schedule after that long of time.
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I can honestly say the AL is not giving me that aggression or energy in the gym. I stopped taking a pre-workout since mon when i started and i feel a little sluggish in the gym. I'm taking Creatine Nitrate pre though. Might have to add about 200mg of Caffeine or a pre-workout. Not sure if its to early for it to kick in. As of today would be my 3rd day.
 
Has anyone thought of adding Alpha t-2 while on Androlean? or taking it after cycle is better?
 
yea i am taking alpht2 with my cyle of havoc and h-drol and i am feeling good.and cutting up nicely.helps with energy and all to.
 
halfhuman said:
I can honestly say the AL is not giving me that aggression or energy in the gym. I stopped taking a pre-workout since mon when i started and i feel a little sluggish in the gym. I'm taking Creatine Nitrate pre though. Might have to add about 200mg of Caffeine or a pre-workout. Not sure if its to early for it to kick in. As of today would be my 3rd day.
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Increased aggression in not part of AndroLean. You should experience an increase in body temperature and sweating while training, but you should not be expecting aggression from it.
 
halfhuman said:
Has anyone thought of adding Alpha t-2 while on Androlean? or taking it after cycle is better?
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Not sure how this would impact the thyroid or if there would be an interaction between them.

benjiman said:
yea i am taking alpht2 with my cyle of havoc and h-drol and i am feeling good.and cutting up nicely.helps with energy and all to.
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Different hormonals that do not have impact the thyroid.
 
Rodja said:
Increased aggression in not part of AndroLean. You should experience an increase in body temperature and sweating while training, but you should not be expecting aggression from it.
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OH ok. I usually sweat alot regardless but the rise in temp i have not felt anything yet thats out the ordinary. let see how i feel today in the gym..I love that aggression....Ima have to pick something up for that..any ideas?
 
Rodja said:
Not sure how this would impact the thyroid or if there would be an interaction between them.



Different hormonals that do not have impact the thyroid.
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So idk if it would be good or not..a little confused on it
 
halfhuman said:
OH ok. I usually sweat alot regardless but the rise in temp i have not felt anything yet thats out the ordinary. let see how i feel today in the gym..I love that aggression....Ima have to pick something up for that..any ideas?
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Well, think of it this way: you're still sweating a lot without the use of stimulants.

halfhuman said:
So idk if it would be good or not..a little confused on it
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I'm honestly not sure about this.
 
halfhuman said:
OH ok. I usually sweat alot regardless but the rise in temp i have not felt anything yet thats out the ordinary. let see how i feel today in the gym..I love that aggression....Ima have to pick something up for that..any ideas?
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Androhard for sure. DHT is all about male aggression (and other male characterisitcs, i.e., highly androgenic).
 
Milas said:
Androhard for sure. DHT is all about male aggression (and other male characterisitcs, i.e., highly androgenic).
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Yea ik. I took the old one. I stay away from DHT. Scared of hairloss...When i took the old one i did half doses
 
Rodja said:
More or less, a different version of a hormone. It still has the same base, but it is slightly different.
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Never heard of it. Is it popular? Bcause i never here anyone mention it. Im guessing its the same difference from the androhard but less harsh on the hairline?
 
halfhuman said:
Never heard of it. Is it popular? Bcause i never here anyone mention it. Im guessing its the same difference from the androhard but less harsh on the hairline?
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The main reason you don't hear a lot about it is that it is a pain in the ass to find a legitimate source for it. I'm trying to think of a common example, but really can't outside of 7-OXO.
 
halfhuman said:
Yea ik. I took the old one. I stay away from DHT. Scared of hairloss...When i took the old one i did half doses
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If you see my avi, ive got a full head of hair and didnt want to lose it. I ran Androhard at full dose last year and didnt lose any. I think its true that if your prone to mpb, dht will speed up the process.
 
Rodja said:
The main reason you don't hear a lot about it is that it is a pain in the ass to find a legitimate source for it. I'm trying to think of a common example, but really can't outside of 7-OXO.
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Figures. I'll try and look around for it and read up on it....7-Oxo i hear about for cutting phases too
 
rulk22 said:
If you see my avi, ive got a full head of hair and didnt want to lose it. I ran Androhard at full dose last year and didnt lose any. I think its true that if your prone to mpb, dht will speed up the process.
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U right but still scary lol..But i agree with u. Might take the AH during the summer and if i lose my hair im coming after u! lol jp...
 
halfhuman said:
U right but still scary lol..But i agree with u. Might take the AH during the summer and if i lose my hair im coming after u! lol jp...
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LOL! Im goin to use Androhard also, so if I notice anything ill let AM know ; )
 
halfhuman said:
Never heard of it. Is it popular? Bcause i never here anyone mention it. Im guessing its the same difference from the androhard but less harsh on the hairline?
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The isomer is supposed to be more powerful in terms, I believe, of conversion to DHT. Any androgenic steroid is going to possibly cause hair loss problems.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
The alpha isomer is supposed to be more powerful in terms, I believe, of conversion to DHT. Any androgenic steroid is going to possibly cause hair loss problems.
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ok cool..Thanx bro...Im on my second week starting today on AL and im thinking of taking the old AH on the last 4weeks of AL but not to sure yet i have a week to decide...If i do ill dose it at 250mg twice per day
 
halfhuman said:
ok cool..Thanx bro...Im on my second week starting today on AL and im thinking of taking the old AH on the last 4weeks of AL but not to sure yet i have a week to decide...If i do ill dose it at 250mg twice per day
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I think it would improve the cycle, but if you're planning on running a harder cycle later (something with a methyl in it like Halodrol, Superdrol, Epistane, etc.) I'd say save it.
 
imma run ah/al for just 4 weeks to play it safe

all this hair loss talk is freakin me out.........i dunno...
 
BigBlackGuy said:
I think it would improve the cycle, but if you're planning on running a harder cycle later (something with a methyl in it like Halodrol, Superdrol, Epistane, etc.) I'd say save it.
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Im actually thinking of running Epi in june..So u right ill save the AH for that cycle..
 
ctAL said:
imma run ah/al for just 4 weeks to play it safe

all this hair loss talk is freakin me out.........i dunno...
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Im in the same boat buddy..I took AH in dec with tbol and ran the AH at half dose it worked good and no hair loss. I played it safe but i would like to run it at full dose. I was taking Toco8 during cycle and pct just to make me feel better lol
 
halfhuman said:
Im in the same boat buddy..I took AH in dec with tbol and ran the AH at half dose it worked good and no hair loss. I played it safe but i would like to run it at full dose. I was taking Toco8 during cycle and pct just to make me feel better lol
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I would say if hair is a concern, dosing toco throughout the cycle would be a smart idea.
 
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