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Another idiot thread!!!!!... liftingstud speaks truth! doctors in thee US are utter morons when it comes to dealing with AAS. Your average practitioner has absolutely zero idea what affect steroids have on the body other than the most obvious literature.

People don't understand that general practitioner doctors have absolutely no experience in dealing with steroid exposure. your only true chance of reasonable advice is through an experienced endocrinologist. And still things are not guaranteed.
 
LiftingStud-

Im not saying that arent a doc.... but arent you worried about the life threatening interactions involved with mixing letro and nolva? I would certainly not suggest mixing the two, but then again Im not a Doc and perhaps I am missing something.

Would you explain why you suggested this combo specifically?

Thanks
 
Hey please - I read this thread and peace to all my lifting bros ...

Just an analysis here - I don't think the Havoc itself gave you the gyno. Above, you say that you did nolva for PCT and that's when the gyno showed up.

Sounds to me like you were fine on the Havoc - but experienced a serious estrogen rebound when you went off it. Probably needed an A/I as well?

Anyway - maybe you should get some bloodwork done ... it'll tell you a lot about your current predicament and you'll know where to go from there.
 
Problem is all my bloodwork all comes back within normal range..so AHH!! I've got a flare up in my left nipple now tiny little bump...Someone suggested I take an AI such as armidex and clomid...but I'm very skeptical of messing with my hormones ever again lol
 
jbryand101b said:
you really aren't very intelligent.
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Why the useless commenting, either help the guy or don't say anything.

Everyone has been in a sh$ty situation and everyone at one time or another has asked for advice, including yourself jbry.

I respect you're a knowledgeable guy, but these kinds of post do nothing but make you look like a d$ck...
 
Fatal Wisdom said:
Went to the endro..I really feel like these people are idiots..just no blank stares and "mmmmmmmhuhs" to what I tell them...basically I need a mammogram..then we'll see where it goes from them...I'm hoping this **** is all in my head, im worried ill go limp during sex and im also just not feeling like that connection of being close with a female its weird like ****ing a...Gunna try mega dosing b6 see how I feel and mega dose prayers lol
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this may be evidence that people are not born gay.
 
bashman said:
Why the useless commenting, either help the guy or don't say anything.

Everyone has been in a sh$ty situation and everyone at one time or another has asked for advice, including yourself jbry.

I respect you're a knowledgeable guy, but these kinds of post do nothing but make you look like a d$ck...
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really? find a thread where I asked for advice. and I am a d*ck.

The point behind my comment is the guy has been searching for ways to fix his problem. If he is being truthful, and has been searching on the subject of gyno, then he would have realized gyno is obviously from a hormonal disruption in the body, and due to all of the various methods he has seen for fixing it, that it will vary person to person.
Why? because the hormonal disruption going on in my body, may not be the same as whats in the next persons body.
He does not have base line blood work. So any blood work he gets now, is completely useless. All it can tell him is if his numbers look in the normal range for most men.

This has nothing to do with him personally. Steroids affect everyone differently. so what is normal for men, does not apply to him.

So all he is left with is to use his intelligence, which is his ability to learn. He is going to have to stop asking questions, and use good old fashioned trial and error.
He will need to try different methods until he finds one that works. he is basically throwing darts at a target blind folded. Hopefully he finds something sonner than later, because it can get expensive.

Or, he can have surgery. Thats an easy way. Either way, he has started the hormonal rollercoaster, which is a b*tch to get off of.

Welcome to steroids. They really should warn people about possibly growing breast from steroids, like in school or something.
 
Liftingstud said:
If you going to get anything why not get DAA... I mean it was proven in real clinical study to raise test. Its not just prolactin and cortisol you need to know.
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Because Daa not only increases test, but it increases prolactin levels almost as much. this is bad advice.
 
jbryand101b said:
really? find a thread where I asked for advice. and I am a d*ck.

The point behind my comment is the guy has been searching for ways to fix his problem. If he is being truthful, and has been searching on the subject of gyno, then he would have realized gyno is obviously from a hormonal disruption in the body, and due to all of the various methods he has seen for fixing it, that it will vary person to person.
Why? because the hormonal disruption going on in my body, may not be the same as whats in the next persons body.
He does not have base line blood work. So any blood work he gets now, is completely useless. All it can tell him is if his numbers look in the normal range for most men.

This has nothing to do with him personally. Steroids affect everyone differently. so what is normal for men, does not apply to him.

So all he is left with is to use his intelligence, which is his ability to learn. He is going to have to stop asking questions, and use good old fashioned trial and error.
He will need to try different methods until he finds one that works. he is basically throwing darts at a target blind folded. Hopefully he finds something sonner than later, because it can get expensive.

Or, he can have surgery. Thats an easy way. Either way, he has started the hormonal rollercoaster, which is a b*tch to get off of.

Welcome to steroids. They really should warn people about possibly growing breast from steroids, like in school or something.
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Ok, all hail the message board Guru! Lets talk intelligence..Similar problems=Similar solutions, similair causes..So I ask questions, if I can avoid pumping my body full of compounds like a lab rat, then I will

YES as stated 650x3 times above, I didn't have base blood work done, my bad, i'm horrible person, world hunger is my fault..is that ok, Jesus? Are you omnipotent? Never made a mistake? ALL HAIL! Listen carefully, suck my ****, and p.s even if i couldnt get it up it's still bigger than yours :D MUST BE WHERE ALL THE HOSTILITY IS COMIN FROMMM YEE HAW. The past is the past, my problem is in the present, and i'm trying to move forward with it not dwell on what I should have done, "trial and error" RIGHT?

The point of this thread was to troubleshoot possible solutions, not text battle a posse of circle jerking losers, all trying to get cheap snickers out of eachother with redundant corny jokes.


I understand your real life may suck more than your floozy of a mother, and thats why you project it onto others..but relaxxx man, it takes more energy to be a douchebag than be kind..you need those extra calories to oil your chest for your groupies! :)

And thanks to everyone who was genuine, and answered out of concern and kindness.
 
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