Bismark Labs 1-AD??

i have seen some stuff called "HGH Somatropin: secretagogue" anyone hear of this stuff??? i keep searching and finding new supplements but i cant find out if they are any good or not.
thanks
 
haha, ya i agree. what you should probally do is each as much chicken and milk as you can each day and spend 3 days a week under a squat rack. I took 2 sometimes 3 pills/day for 8 weeks. I was at 210 lbs when i started cycle, now at just under 217. What impressed me more than gaining 6 lbs was the strength gain. I am pushing more w8 than I ever have. I have to give 1ad credit for that Bcuz for like 6 months I was using roughly the same w8 on my big lifts (bench, squat, deadlift, and military presses)
 
I started my bottle of Bismark 1AD today, so I'm gonna keep you guys filled on my experience. I sure as hell felt the energy gain about an hour after I took my first dose!! Too early to tell, but I'm gonna go with 3 a day for the first week and bump to 4 following week 1. If the appetite increases in a few days, Bismark may be the same.
 
As for BUSA1300, one guy on this forum said it perfectly....The best supplement for hard gainers is STEAKADROL. Eat,eat,exercise,eat---sleep----repeat!! I'm a rider too. Just sold my Kaw for the winter.
 
so i done more research and came across "Methyl 1-Test" and again its banned but does anyone no of something thats very similar to this or do they have a newer brand out that does the same thing?
im getting ready to join a gym and wanting to have something set on the side just incase i feel like i might need it. i dont want to take any more then 3 sups. at one time. thanks again guys/gals.
 
Everybody I knew that thought they were a "hardgainer" started putting on a surprising amount of muscle when they forced themselves to increase their caloric intake past a certain point.
 
chicken and milk, more chicken and milk. Squats, bench press, deadlift, and military presses(clean and press if you just starting.) As much w8 as you can handle for 4-8 reps. If you can get more than 8 reps up your poundage. DO THIS, and do it religiously. If you under 25 years old and followed this simple plan for a year, I would not at all be surprised if you were able to gain 30 lbs or more in a year, most of that being lean mass.
 
This Bismark 1AD seems legit-3 days into it, my appetite has increased a lot and I am working out hard. I don't understand why people complain of low libidio, mine seems to be increasing a bit. I can understand about the low libidio problems of males that do long cycles and don't take time off. I'm gonna look forward to the strength gains in week 2 and 3. Bismark 1AD seems legit for day 3, but time will tell!!
 
I have been taking Bismark Labs 1-AD for 19 days. For the first 14 days, I was taking 3 pills a day. For the last 5 days I have been taking 4 pills a day. I have noticed a huge increase in strength and have went up a few pounds in body weight.

For the first 14 days at 3 pills I had no side effects. After increasing to 4 pills a day, I have noticed that I am having to urinate more than usual. I have read with the old 1-AD had frequent urination as one of their side effects. I also noticed a slight headache and I have trouble going to sleep. Other than that, all is well.

I noticed that the bottles have a strong smell of ammonia, not sure why. Others have commented on that as well. I have researched Bismark Labs and cannot find anything about the company. Does anyone have any information on Bismark Labs?
 
I plan on running another cycle in a few months. Im taking a good liver support supplement and tribulus as my pct. Can anybody recommend another good supp to stack with the 1ad? Ive heard you can run it with 4ad for a killer combo, but I cant find any 4ad for sale.
 
1AD- 4AD

columbo55 said:
I plan on running another cycle in a few months. Im taking a good liver support supplement and tribulus as my pct. Can anybody recommend another good supp to stack with the 1ad? Ive heard you can run it with 4ad for a killer combo, but I cant find any 4ad for sale.
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REVOLUTION BY REDEFINE NUTRITION IS A GOOD PCT. I HAVE ALSO READ 4-AD WAS A GOOD STACK WITH 1-AD AND WAS WANTING TO TRY IT MYSELF. I HAVE DONE SOME RESEARCH AND FOUND THAT ADVANCE MUSCLE SCIENCE MAKES A GOOD 4-AD UTT OR THE NEW RAPID DISSOLVE TABS. TF SUPPLEMENT HAS A SALE ON 4-AD UTT FOR $19.95 IF INTERESTED
 
AMS 4-AD is the only "4-AD" I could find. From what I've read it works, but needs to be triple dosed for real effect. It's actually 4 DHEA which is two conversions away from test. People seem to like PP Dermacrine to run as a base.
 
I've done a few cycles of Anabolic Pharmaceuticals 1-AD in the past, it was the prohormone which got me into steroid use. Although I've now progressed onto "proper" steroids, I love 1-AD. For the first time, I'm running it alongside injectible test (following a turinabol "kickstart"), it's nice to keep taking pills throughout my cycle, whilst giving my liver a rest.

As I type this, I'm looking at a bottle of the Anabolic Pharmaceuticles product. It's a clear plastic bottle with a white cap, with a black, white and red label like ergopharm's. Each bottle contains 90 red gel caps. I suspect it's a british company, it's always delivered quite quickly to me, internal UK post, paid for in £GB. It's the only brand I've ever used, and I'm sure it's the real deal.

Here are my notes on 1-AD.

The first dose can give you stomach ache, so take it with a big meal. 2nd and subsequent doses - no problem.

It makes you wee a lot. I feel more thirsty at work in the afternoon, and usually wake up to urinate in the middle of the night.

If I use a high dose for a long time, it can sting to have a pee. Because it's a prohormone which depends on an enzyme to activate it, anything over 400mg per day is just excreted by the kidneys. Conversion is estimated at 25-30%, so it's like 70 to 100mg of 1-test per day.

It will cause testicular shrinkage in about 3 weeks - worse than most steroids in my limited experience. Right now, I feel like I have a big **** and small balls - all the testosterone gives me a semi-on for no reason, and a couple of little danglers in it's shadow. As soon as my hcg arrives, I'm going to wake the boys up!

(That's the side effects over with).

It gives great, very dry, lean gains in muscle bulk, and it's not 17a methylated. In that way, it's like stronger, cheaper Primobolan. It's great to run mid-cycle, with a testosterone base, bookended by two methylated orals.

It seems to complement testosterone cypionate or enanthate very well (much better even than it did 4-AD). The test keeps the pecker up, so to speak, and gives gains of it's own.

I've never read this anywhere, but I would suggest that it has mild anti-aromatase activity - water bloat from testosterone seems reduced somewhat.

I think the 1-AD prohormone route is the best way of getting 1-testosterone into your body.
1-test cypionate injectible has a reputation for being a real painful jab.
Methyl 1-test has an entirely different character, lots of harsh sides, and was largely responsible for the prohormone ban in the US.

I wish steroid websites sold 1-AD. I would like to see 75mg pills, (to spread the dose out into 4 or 5 doses throughout the day).

I like to think of myself as a rational man, a man of science. I know it's "just" a prohormone, and you can get anything on the internet nowadays, but it has a real niche.

Think of it as a dry cutting steroid which gives good bulk and strength gains, too, without being harsh on the liver enzymes. Muscles grow with lovely shape, and big dry gaps between them.

I would like to hear whether anyone has ever run it alongside a "wet" oral steroid like dianabol - 3 weeks of that would give explosive gains, I would imagine, and PCT afterwards wouldn't be too depressing.
 
Hey zorrin, I have a bottle of that 1-AD from Anabolic Pharmaceuticals and Im starting it next week. How many times have you tried it and how much weight did you gain? Did you dose it according to the directions or higher. I started a thread on this a few weeks ago and not many had used it. Also, people complain about hair loss being a side effect of the old 1-AD, have you heard or experienced that?

Thanks for the help!!
 
Hmmm...Smells like Ammonia, also one person said they tasted sugar and the manufacture replied saying there was sugar in it. What it seems like to me is you guys are are taking CEE. That would be my guess based on how its being described in this thread.
 
Not to get off topic bcuz i know this forum is on bismark labs 1ad, but has anyone ever ran ecdysterone/methoxyisoflavone together with any kind of decent results? It would be a cheap relatively cheap stack I plan on using until my body is ready for another 45 60 day 1ad cycle, thanks guys.
 
Hi Shortfuse,

I'm on my 3rd cycle of Anabolic Pharmaceuticles 1-AD.

The first was on it's own
The second was with 4-AD
This time, as described above, with 500mg test cypionate a week. I was already 16lb up when I started the 1-AD (from the turinabol kickstart, water from the test kicking in, and a little more fat).

Each previous time, I've gained maybe 8-10lb of (scale) weight per bottle (30 days), but that includes the fat loss that it seems to cause, so I'm guessing I gained 12lb of muscle, and lost some fat. None of that was water weight Both previous times were in the summer when I was sunbathing and taking my shirt off a lot, and I feel I looked really good, I had a nice 6-pack. Bare in mind that I am in my early 40s.

I've never been interested in that professional bodybuilder, Jay Cutler look - Frank Zane at his best would be my ideal. My body looked like Brad Pitt in "Fight Club" at the end of my first 1-AD cycle. I've done a few cycles since then, I'm aiming for a Brad Pitt in "Troy" look this year.

I've just opened the bottle and sniffed - I don't smell any ammonia smell (I have a chemistry degree from a UK university). I use CEE offcycle, and I doubt that 10g-ish total of CEE would cause all the effects and muscle growth in a month.

I take 3 capsules a day, as directed. I think Patrick Arnold got the dose about right when he developed 1-AD. Spread the dose out, morning, lunchtime, evening. Don't overload the enzyme which converts it with too much in one go.

I never noticed any hairloss, but I'm not prone (I'm like a less-good-looking Richard Gere). After my bath last night, I didn't see any hairs in the bath, except for one which clearly came off my thai wife. I think 1-test is already 5-alpha reduced (it's the DHT-type metabolite of boldenone), and it's half as androgenic as DHT itself. Also, it spreads equally throughout all tissues, whereas the scalp has a lot of 5-alpha reductase, so when DHT is manufactured from testosterone in your blood plasma, concentrations are high in the scalp.

I just opened a capsule, and put a bit of the dry powder under my tongue. Most of it dissolved (the 1-androstenediol and the magnesium stearate filler?) but a little granular powder remained (the stone-ground rice filler?). It didn't taste too bad (neither does testosterone, DHEA or cholesterol). It had a slight bitter, "plastic" taste. It's definitely not creatine ethyl ester, which tastes disgusting (that's why its usually in pill form rather than mixed in with a protein shake, unlike creatine monohydrate).

For comparison, I also tasted a dab of 99% pure DHEA powder, which I had hanging around after making some tablets for my wife. That doesn't really have a taste, either. I think things with a massive, multi-ring steroid skeleton taste pretty bland, generally. I think the "burning under the tongue" may be an urban myth, or maybe pure 1-testosterone causes irritation, and not 1-androstenediol. Dunno.
 
columbo55 said:
Not to get off topic bcuz i know this forum is on bismark labs 1ad, but has anyone ever ran ecdysterone/methoxyisoflavone together with any kind of decent results? It would be a cheap relatively cheap stack I plan on using until my body is ready for another 45 60 day 1ad cycle, thanks guys.
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I'm also quite interested in ecdysterone/methoxyisoflavone. Anything that is non-hormonal is worth throwing in during PCT, or as a bridge between cycles of things which shut you down, like 1-AD.

PCT time is like the hangover of steroid use, its depressing to lose some of your gains after growing every day. Ecdysterone/methoxyisoflavone/ one of the creatines, it's the time to bung all those things in to the mix.

I'd love someone to create something that could help you keep your gains in those bad few weeks (and maybe even gain a lb or two), but also allow your natural endocrene system to get back to normal.

I genuinely am at a loss. I may start a dedicated thread to this subject, so I can make a plan for keeping my gains from this cycle. Sorry for wandering off subject.

Back on the 1-AD subject, I've got loads of dianabol sitting around doing nothing. In the spring, I'm thinking of running a 4 week cycle of 1-AD, dianabol and proviron, with a teensy bit of hcg in week 3. No testosterone!

1-AD is often recommended to stack with something "wet". I can only take 20mg of Dbol a day and I bloat. I will have hcg, proviron and Dbol anyway, and won't need to pay for them.

I'm thinking I will take 30mg of Dbol a day - quite a low dose reallyfor a month.

The 1-AD and proviron (both of which are easy on the liver) should help to solidify the Dbol gains.

Proviron has moderate aromatase inhibitor effects, binds to SHBG, and should help to get more bang per buck from the Dbol, whilst keeping the bloat manageable.

Also, proviron should help with the libido shutdown from the 1-AD.

I'm planning to do this because it's cheap, and also in the name of science. It could be like the Dbol / primo cycles which Arnie and Frank Zane are reputed to have subsisted on back in the 1970s. Frank Zane is still looking good, even in his 60s. I like to train like Zane.
 
zorrin said:
Hi Shortfuse,

I'm on my 3rd cycle of Anabolic Pharmaceuticles 1-AD.

The first was on it's own
The second was with 4-AD
This time, as described above, with 500mg test cypionate a week. I was already 16lb up when I started the 1-AD (from the turinabol kickstart, water from the test kicking in, and a little more fat).

Each previous time, I've gained maybe 8-10lb of (scale) weight per bottle (30 days), but that includes the fat loss that it seems to cause, so I'm guessing I gained 12lb of muscle, and lost some fat. None of that was water weight Both previous times were in the summer when I was sunbathing and taking my shirt off a lot, and I feel I looked really good, I had a nice 6-pack. Bare in mind that I am in my early 40s.

I've never been interested in that professional bodybuilder, Jay Cutler look - Frank Zane at his best would be my ideal. My body looked like Brad Pitt in "Fight Club" at the end of my first 1-AD cycle. I've done a few cycles since then, I'm aiming for a Brad Pitt in "Troy" look this year.

I've just opened the bottle and sniffed - I don't smell any ammonia smell (I have a chemistry degree from a UK university). I use CEE offcycle, and I doubt that 10g-ish total of CEE would cause all the effects and muscle growth in a month.

I take 3 capsules a day, as directed. I think Patrick Arnold got the dose about right when he developed 1-AD. Spread the dose out, morning, lunchtime, evening. Don't overload the enzyme which converts it with too much in one go.

I never noticed any hairloss, but I'm not prone (I'm like a less-good-looking Richard Gere). After my bath last night, I didn't see any hairs in the bath, except for one which clearly came off my thai wife. I think 1-test is already 5-alpha reduced (it's the DHT-type metabolite of boldenone), and it's half as androgenic as DHT itself. Also, it spreads equally throughout all tissues, whereas the scalp has a lot of 5-alpha reductase, so when DHT is manufactured from testosterone in your blood plasma, concentrations are high in the scalp.

I just opened a capsule, and put a bit of the dry powder under my tongue. Most of it dissolved (the 1-androstenediol and the magnesium stearate filler?) but a little granular powder remained (the stone-ground rice filler?). It didn't taste too bad (neither does testosterone, DHEA or cholesterol). It had a slight bitter, "plastic" taste. It's definitely not creatine ethyl ester, which tastes disgusting (that's why its usually in pill form rather than mixed in with a protein shake, unlike creatine monohydrate).

For comparison, I also tasted a dab of 99% pure DHEA powder, which I had hanging around after making some tablets for my wife. That doesn't really have a taste, either. I think things with a massive, multi-ring steroid skeleton taste pretty bland, generally. I think the "burning under the tongue" may be an urban myth, or maybe pure 1-testosterone causes irritation, and not 1-androstenediol. Dunno.
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Thanks zorrin!

One more question I forgot, what did you use for pct after 1-AD. I have used Reversitol with great success after other stuff and was wondering if it or something else OTC would be good enough?
 
I was just an innocent, young, sexy fool when I first tried 1-AD. I did no PCT. I didn't know what it was. I did, however, find out what it feels like to be "shut down".

I'm running steroids for 13 weeks this time:-

500mg test cypionate/week, weeks 1 to 10 (two 1ml injections per week)
50mg turinabol/day, weeks 1 to 3 - I enjoyed this, bulked up, no bloat, felt great
300mg 1-AD/day, weeks 4 to 10 - muscles were harder and dryer by week 5, but cajones shrinking a little.
hcg - 250iu, every 3 days, weeks 6-10
Methyl Hydroxy nandrolone (MHN) - dose to be decided -weeks 11, 12, 13
PCT - Nolva, dose to be decided, Proviron, trib, ZMA, CEE, weeks 14, 15, 16

I've never tried MHN before, so it will be at a low dose for 3 weeks after my last test shot, then cold turkey and straight into PCT. It's reputed to be a dry anavar-style oral. I have plenty of 10mg winstrol pills too, but I'm not a big fan of them. I'm one of those people who takes one winstrol pill, and my elbow tendons ache.

PCT shouldn't be too hard, hopefully. I will be using small amounts (250ius) of hcg, 3 times a week, for the last 4 weeks of my cycle, with tamaxofen if aromatisation becomes a problem from the hcg, so my balls should be alive and ready to bounce back when the last test shot has faded. I will also be throwing in tribulus terestris, ZMA and creatine ethyl ester during PCT. I have some great trib concentrate which I cap myself. I got it by accident from a supplement company who messed my order up.

PCT is the time to throw in all those non-hormonal supplements, just to make it through and try to hold on to your muscle gains until the boys are firing.

Oh, and I have proviron on the way in the post. I will add it to my cycle, and possibly during PCT.
 
Sounds like a pretty broad cycle there Zorrin!

I've been looking at the Anabolic Pharmaceuticals and Androtech Labs as well.

To the guys that have been running this Bismark stuff so far, any further updates?
 
One other thing I've noticed on my 1-AD/ test cyp stack, is that I don't seem to be sleeping very well at all, but I'm not tired. It's like 1-AD seems to jack up the nervous system slightly. It's a "hot" compound, the chilli pepper of the prohormone world.

When I was stacking Tbol and test, my sleep was normal. Turinabol is a very neautral, feel-good oral steroid - it's neither wet nor dry. You don't get lean and vascular, but you don't get water bloat either. You just sort of stay the same, but with an extra half a pound of muscle every day.

1-AD, I always notice, increases my vascularity. I'm definitely not thinking about sex as often, in spite of the 500mg/week of testosterone cypionate. Sleep is disturbed, and at odd, non-bedtimey times.

When I sleep at night, I always wake up early busting for a pee. No flow problems, no pain.
No hairloss whatsoever for me, but my beard is growing twice as fast.
Muscles are very hard and defined, but a little more achey than on Tbol / test, so I skip the odd training day.
On Tbol / test, I was training nearly every evening, and was fully recovered by the following evening.

I hope this info is useful for someone. I'm glad to see that 1-AD is still getting lots of interest - it was the last and best of the "true" prohormones. It's definitely strong and effective, or I wouldn't be spending my money on it when its so easy to get every steroid under the sun on the internet.

It falls between two stools, because it was banned in the US, but hasn't made it onto any underground steroid websites so you have to go onto page 2 or 3 of your google search to buy it sometimes.
 
Ok my cycle of Bismark 1-AD is finished. 4 weeks, 2 bottles, 4 pills a day spread out. I lifted 4-5 times a week. I ate a more than normal, and made sure to drink my protien shakes 3 times a day. I seemed to be hungry more often, and needed to pee more frequently.

In the end I gained 5-6 lbs. strength increased mid week two I give Bismark credit for this. I do look better but I also worked very hard in the gym, and just as hard on my diet.

Having taken the original Ergopharm 1-AD, my personal opinion is that the Bismark version is CRAP compared to the Ergopharm version. At two pills a day on the original I had twice the results. With Ergo I also had more strenth gains, quicker recovery, WAY more aggression, and more weight gain.

Overall I wouldn't waist my time or money on the product again. I believe 90% of my gains came from eating more, working harder, and placebo effect. The strenth gains may have been because I believed I should be pushing more, so I did. Not sure? Looking for something different next time around. I am intrested in the Anabolic Pharmaceuticles brand and would be willing to give it a try. But Bismark @ $70 per bottle NEVER again.
 
Josh916 said:
Ok my cycle of Bismark 1-AD is finished. 4 weeks, 2 bottles, 4 pills a day spread out. I lifted 4-5 times a week. I ate a more than normal, and made sure to drink my protien shakes 3 times a day. I seemed to be hungry more often, and needed to pee more frequently.

In the end I gained 5-6 lbs. strength increased mid week two I give Bismark credit for this. I do look better but I also worked very hard in the gym, and just as hard on my diet.

Having taken the original Ergopharm 1-AD, my personal opinion is that the Bismark version is CRAP compared to the Ergopharm version. At two pills a day on the original I had twice the results. With Ergo I also had more strenth gains, quicker recovery, WAY more aggression, and more weight gain.

Overall I wouldn't waist my time or money on the product again. I believe 90% of my gains came from eating more, working harder, and placebo effect. The strenth gains may have been because I believed I should be pushing more, so I did. Not sure? Looking for something different next time around. I am intrested in the Anabolic Pharmaceuticles brand and would be willing to give it a try. But Bismark @ $70 per bottle NEVER again.
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I think some of the gains I make when "on" are due to what I'm taking, and some are due to working out more often. When I'm are taking pills every day, I don't want to waste them by being lazy.

That's the trouble with an injectible-only cycle. If you are just doing one or two shots a week, it's easy to forget that you are "on".
 
Zorrin have you seen real results with the Anabolic Pharmaceuticles 1-AD? Your description sounds much like the original Ergopharm. I'm looking for a PH that gives great results, but is non-methylated. I don't like the idea of liver damage. The Bismark 1AD did very little for me at 4 pills a day. Would love any info, or suggestions you might have.
 
Josh916 said:
Zorrin have you seen real results with the Anabolic Pharmaceuticles 1-AD? Your description sounds much like the original Ergopharm. I'm looking for a PH that gives great results, but is non-methylated. I don't like the idea of liver damage. The Bismark 1AD did very little for me at 4 pills a day. Would love any info, or suggestions you might have.
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sounds like it might be just the newer ERGO 1AD rather than the old formula. Since the gains seem more like the "PP: 1-t" and "ironmaglabs: 1-andro"

unless for you, you are bigger than you were when you ran it the first time, and now needed to dose it higher...or maybe other variables in why your gains were less this time around? i wont get a chance to run it myself for a while to test it
 
I just finished a cycle of 1ad myself, and was pretty impressed. I took the original ergopharm about 5 or 6 years ago with very similer results. You said you were lifting 4-5 days a week, and pushed more. I think you overtrained yourself and because of that got mediocre results. 1ad is what is, a good ph. But you cant start adding w8 to all your lifts and train 5 days a week right out of the gate and expect to be arnold overnight. If thats what you want you should get some real gear and leave the ph's alone. I think they work well, and had good gains with the bismark 1ad, but I know there isnt any mircle pills unless your taking true roids.
 
i just got some bismark 1AD as well and will be starting in a couple weeks so ill keep everyone posted. but as far as that strong smell go. its really crazy strong. does anyone know if the ergo 1ad had the same smell? what about the anabolic pharmaceuticals brand?
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
How do you guys find this stuff so easily?
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It was on Ebay for a month or so, maybe longer. I didn't have much success using two bottles but I guess others have had some results. In fact one of the sellers on Ebay emailed me, he quit selling it because he had too many complaints about the results (people telling him it was bunk).
 
Josh916 said:
It was on Ebay for a month or so, maybe longer. I didn't have much success using two bottles but I guess others have had some results. In fact one of the sellers on Ebay emailed me, he quit selling it because he had too many complaints about the results (people telling him it was bunk).
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wait really? about the same product? well that brings new light on the situation. Guys im confident this is most likely this is 1-Androsterone, and not the DIOL version. But who knows at this point.

now define bunk? as in NO RESULTS or MUCH LESS THAN EXPECTED?
 
abedo said:
i just got some bismark 1AD as well and will be starting in a couple weeks so ill keep everyone posted. but as far as that strong smell go. its really crazy strong. does anyone know if the ergo 1ad had the same smell? what about the anabolic pharmaceuticals brand?
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you should start ASAP lol, get back and report!!!
 
T H E O R E M said:
now define bunk? as in NO RESULTS or MUCH LESS THAN EXPECTED?
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Maybe bunk is too harsh. VERY disappointed would be a better way of putting it. I used the original 1-ad with great results and at that time I payed much less attention to my diet, and workout routine.

With the Bismark I started pushing more weight around day 10 or so. Nothing through the roof but did feel stronger especially with dumbbells. Overall I put on about 4-5lbs. in 30 days I worked my *ss off for 4weeks and ate more than I usually do.

Some on this board have said I overtrained, but I never worked any muscle more than once a week, and hit that muscle hard for 30-40min and thats it.

As my only experience with PH is with the original ErgoPharm 1-ad and now the Bismark 1-AD I am by no means an expert. Just trying to contribute my experience. To me this company is shady. Just try and find a website or any information on them, or anyother product they have ever produced ANYWHERE! I feel kinda stupid for dishing out $140 for two bottles without doing more research. But I LOVED the original Ergo and thought I would take a chance. I hope this helps.
 
i found a site that supposedly sells the original ergopharm 1-ad....havent tried them out yet...nor do i know if theyre legit...i also got some of the bismarck labs 1ad in the mail today....from what everyone is saying it looks like it'll be a dissapointment
 
zorrin said:
I was just an innocent, young, sexy fool when I first tried 1-AD. I did no PCT. I didn't know what it was. I did, however, find out what it feels like to be "shut down".

I'm running steroids for 13 weeks this time:-

500mg test cypionate/week, weeks 1 to 10 (two 1ml injections per week)
50mg turinabol/day, weeks 1 to 3 - I enjoyed this, bulked up, no bloat, felt great
300mg 1-AD/day, weeks 4 to 10 - muscles were harder and dryer by week 5, but cajones shrinking a little.
hcg - 250iu, every 3 days, weeks 6-10
Methyl Hydroxy nandrolone (MHN) - dose to be decided -weeks 11, 12, 13
PCT - Nolva, dose to be decided, Proviron, trib, ZMA, CEE, weeks 14, 15, 16

I've never tried MHN before, so it will be at a low dose for 3 weeks after my last test shot, then cold turkey and straight into PCT. It's reputed to be a dry anavar-style oral. I have plenty of 10mg winstrol pills too, but I'm not a big fan of them. I'm one of those people who takes one winstrol pill, and my elbow tendons ache.

PCT shouldn't be too hard, hopefully. I will be using small amounts (250ius) of hcg, 3 times a week, for the last 4 weeks of my cycle, with tamaxofen if aromatisation becomes a problem from the hcg, so my balls should be alive and ready to bounce back when the last test shot has faded. I will also be throwing in tribulus terestris, ZMA and creatine ethyl ester during PCT. I have some great trib concentrate which I cap myself. I got it by accident from a supplement company who messed my order up.

PCT is the time to throw in all those non-hormonal supplements, just to make it through and try to hold on to your muscle gains until the boys are firing.

Oh, and I have proviron on the way in the post. I will add it to my cycle, and possibly during PCT.
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how's the mhn going?
 
Hello Guys, I finished my Bismark 1-AD cycle about 4 weeks ago with good results. I added 10 pounds of scale weight. Strength was amazing. I started with 3 caps a day and ending with 4 caps. I used cel formestane and redefined revolution as my PCT and and have added 2+ pounds to my gains . The only negavtives that I had from the cycle was insomnia, frequent urination, and a little bloating. overall all i think bismark labs 1ad is a good product. but unfortunately i never got to try the ergopharm 1ad to have something to compare to but from what i have read they have similar results . but every one is different. I am going to run another 4-6 week cycle of 1ad and stack it with ams 4ad utt. i was wondering if any one could give me any information on the stack and how much ams 4ad utt to use . i have read 3ml 4ad utt split in two doses one in the morning and the other in the evening would be good . i am not sure when to start the 4ad. i have read different options of 1-2 weeks before 1ad and with the start of 1ad. just not sure so if any one could help me with this cycle it would be appreciated .thanks
 
I agree with you busa. Bismark 1-ad gives you mad energy. Its hard to sleep at night. I used 3g melatonin with tylenol pm and that helped alot. I had good gains too using 3 cap/day
 
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