Bismark Labs 1-AD??

BrockR

BrockR

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Anyone heard of it? Wondering if it's legit. Graphics on the bottle look a lot like ergopharm's

Shows the RIGHT ingredient though...if that's what is really in there.
 
just going off the top of my head it sounds like this stuff that was being made over seas awhile a go.though I can't remember if it it was legit or not.I'd say do some google work and see what you can find.
 
Not much to be found on google, it just bumps back to the seller I got it from.

The bottle says made in Canada, and not to be sold in the USA.
 
I'll look and see what I can find.is the bottle gray and black?

update: did a small search.your a brave man if this came from where I think it did.reminds me of a wack job who was selling legit 1ad and 4ad years ago.as long as you have your supports and pct lined up I'd say go for it.
 
Bottle looks EXACT like Ergos 1-AD except in the bottom corner where it used to say Ergo is says Bismarck Labs, Quebec. I am very curious about this as well.
 
mich29 said:
I'll look and see what I can find.is the bottle gray and black?

update: did a small search.your a brave man if this came from where I think it did.reminds me of a wack job who was selling legit 1ad and 4ad years ago.as long as you have your supports and pct lined up I'd say go for it.
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elaborate on the update if you would, I am curious. Comes from where? Brave meaning?
 
biggfly said:
elaborate on the update if you would, I am curious. Comes from where? Brave meaning?
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I can't say from where but google it.brave ref back to where it might have come from.cops are known to post stuff there in order to hopefully nab a big fish once in awhile.

biggfly said:
Bottle looks EXACT like Ergos 1-AD except in the bottom corner where it used to say Ergo is says Bismarck Labs, Quebec. I am very curious about this as well.
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I'm trying to find the post on another forum where I believe the maker is talked about.you might try pming patrick arnold he might remember about this one.From what I remember there were clones being made over seas for awhile that pretty much copied the old 1ad bottles but as far as what was actually in them I can't remember if they were ever legit or something else altogether.
 
I've never posted here but i bought a few bottles, cycled for 6 weeks and gained 6 lbs. The second bottle i bought had a really strong ammonia smell. not sure about that.. read somewhere that there is a filler for pharmac that smells like ammonia. Have you taken, or do yours smell like ammonia
 
I am currently on my second bottle as well. All mine smell strong like amonia also. Im on week 3 up about 7 lbs. Strength and weight gain didnt come untill about 9 or 10 days into it when i started going with 6 caps a day. The 3 a day didnt do crap for me. I have used the origininal 1 ad by ergo and these new caps are smaller and the old stuff didnt smell like amonia either. As far as being legit, heck i dont know i just took a chance on it and am running a 6 weeker. Ill keep u posted if your interested. Oh and as far as sides, i have noticed nothing!
 
I also bought two bottles of this. I do smell the ammonia. When I opened up the bottle one of the caps had a hole in it. I decided to taste the powder. It tasted very sweet, almost like powdered suger. From research I found that the old 1-ad would burn if you put some of the powder under your tounge. This didn't happen. Not sure if this is bunk or not. I haven't started my cycle yet, was waiting till Jan.

Is anyone out there getting results from this Bismark Labs product????? Did anyone use the original Ergopharm, and is now trying this?? Hope I haven't just wasted a good amount of cash on this stuff.
 
skinnmakeup said:
I've never posted here but i bought a few bottles, cycled for 6 weeks and gained 6 lbs. The second bottle i bought had a really strong ammonia smell. not sure about that.. read somewhere that there is a filler for pharmac that smells like ammonia. Have you taken, or do yours smell like ammonia
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Gaining 6 lbs. off 2 bottles in 6 weeks doesn't sound like the old 1-AD to me. Did you lose bodyfat, gain strength, how was you diet and training?
 
bigguns said:
I am currently on my second bottle as well. All mine smell strong like amonia also. Im on week 3 up about 7 lbs. Strength and weight gain didnt come untill about 9 or 10 days into it when i started going with 6 caps a day. The 3 a day didnt do crap for me. I have used the origininal 1 ad by ergo and these new caps are smaller and the old stuff didnt smell like amonia either. As far as being legit, heck i dont know i just took a chance on it and am running a 6 weeker. Ill keep u posted if your interested. Oh and as far as sides, i have noticed nothing!
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Please keep me posted. Have you lost any libido? (original 1-ad was a libido killer) How are your strenth gains? Have you upped your calorie intake.
 
Yes, i upped my calorie intake and protein intake as well. And Josh916 i also broke open a cap to see if it burned and mine definately did. Hopefully some bottles arent bunk product. But i was told that was one way to tell if it was legit or not. I tried it and it burned under my tongue. ( No Sweet Taste Whatsoever). But i can honeslty say that i got way more strength gains with Tren than i have with this new AD. Not saying that 7lbs in 3 weeks is bad either but i liked the Tren more. Im in the same boat as all you guys, hoping this stuff works like the old 1 ad, but at 3 weeks running 6 a day im highly doubting it. Hopefully more users will post their experiences with this product.
 
Glad you guys chimed in!

7 lbs in 3 weeks is nothing to dismiss, but I've done a lot of reading up on 1-AD and that would be considered on the super low side of usual results for standard 3 cap dosing.

Seems like if this stuff really is 1-AD it may be underdosed.

The libido question was good, how did it go with you guys? Seems like 1-AD should kill libido pretty quickly unless running it with 4-AD or a test base.
 
i agree that if this stuff is real 1 ad that it may be underdosed. ( maybe thats why the caps are about half the original size, or close to that). As far as libido goes i cant say ive noticed anything really. The last 3 days or so i have been pretty tired but other than that testes are still normal and i feel good. Kind of weird considering the other stuff ive done had shrunk my nuts and noticeable sides. although i believe something in this compound is working as i have already went up in strength and body weight. Who know i guess. Wish there were more testers out there.
 
It would be great to hear some results from others as you . I was taking 3 pills aday and I agree, much better gains with the ergo. I have 3 bottles left and cant decide if I should take them or chaulk it up as a bad buy.

The problem with me and libido is Im 44 and barely have any left at my age anyway, see what you younger guys have to look forward too. I use to get a mild burning senstaion with the ergo when I pissed which I dont with these. Im trying Havoc RPN and Transform extreme mass next...

has anyone taken those??
 
Thanks for all the info guys! I'm spent the money so Im giving it a shot. I started today and will run 300/300/400/400 will see how it goes. As far as the sweet taste I recieved a email back from the seller here was the response....

Hello,
I only bought 8 bottles from the seller, and I used 2 of them with good results. Sugar is one ingredient, it is used to put the test directly into your blood stream. Sugar also causes your veins to push out and become more visible. Dont worry AD-1 is a great product, and can work magic if combined with proper nutrition.
I will email the seller about Bismark labs, but the product is real. I have used it myself.

What do you guys think?
 
skinnmakeup said:
It would be great to hear some results from others as you . I was taking 3 pills aday and I agree, much better gains with the ergo. I have 3 bottles left and cant decide if I should take them or chaulk it up as a bad buy.

The problem with me and libido is Im 44 and barely have any left at my age anyway, see what you younger guys have to look forward too. I use to get a mild burning senstaion with the ergo when I pissed which I dont with these. Im trying Havoc RPN and Transform extreme mass next...

has anyone taken those??
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Mild burning sensation when pissing?? Wouldnt that be the telltale signs of an infection, poss from contaminated ingredients? Ergo is a pretty well respected name though, arent they? Usually just UGL's you hear of that from. You ever get it checked out?

I'm sure you've noticed if you search around at all, lots have used Havoc/Epi, and most seem to like it quite a bit. Some variance on reviews, but, thats to be expected with anything like these things.
 
That was like 4 years ago, Yeah Ergo was def reputable. I actually use to work for UPS and proviant tech was a customer, they made the 1ad in Champaign Illinois. I bought a 2 bottles of ergo brand on ebay couple weeks ago, expiration date 2007. i thought I read somewhere that the org 1ad could cause a mild burning but lots of water helped so figured it was norm. Thanks for info all... i think I'll take the rest and we'll al either get huge or we'll get ammonia poisoning!!!
 
skinnmakeup said:
we'll al either get huge or we'll get ammonia poisoning!!!
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Geez I hope not! Started my cycle today. Haven't used any PH since the original 1-ad about 6-7 year ago. Only ran one cycle and had great results. My system has been clean of PH's for so long that I should get great results IF this stuff is real.
 
Hey i noticed this forum in google and signed up to talk about it. I have a little info on this product. It is available in Canada for low testosterone levels. Possibly by prescription so you might need an inside connection to get it. I have bought some from ebay, and have seen it for sale at sell.com also.
Here is a link www .sell.com/25B16K
Personally Ive been taking it 6 weeks and my gains have been great. Im in my 40's and usually bench around 220 lbs. Since i started the 1-ad my bench is up to 270 and i feel much stonger and energetic. I have gained 6 lbs but am actually looking much leaner even with the xtra weight. I took ergopharm 1-ad alot in the early 2000's and think bismark labs is the same thing. Im very pleased so far, I thought 1-ad was gone for good.
 
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columbo55 said:
Hey i noticed this forum in google and signed up to talk about it. I have a little info on this product. It is available in Canada for low testosterone levels. Possibly by prescription so you might need an inside connection to get it. I have bought some from ebay, and have seen it for sale at sell.com also.
Here is a link www .sell.com/25B16K
Personally Ive been taking it 6 weeks and my gains have been great. Im in my 40's and usually bench around 220 lbs. Since i started the 1-ad my bench is up to 270 and i feel much stonger and energetic. I have gained 6 lbs but am actually looking much leaner even with the xtra weight. I took ergopharm 1-ad alot in the early 2000's and think bismark labs is the same thing. Im very pleased so far, I thought 1-ad was gone for good.
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Brand new member, first post, and putting up links all in one...interesting.
 
skinnmakeup said:
It would be great to hear some results from others as you . I was taking 3 pills aday and I agree, much better gains with the ergo. I have 3 bottles left and cant decide if I should take them or chaulk it up as a bad buy.
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What kind of gains did you get with the Bismark brand? How long did you take 3 pills a day? Did you see any results at all?
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im also wanting info on this been looking at it and it seems decent but its not cheap. seems like some people are getting good numbers back why taking it but i guess for someone like me who hasnt had and ph before i should get good results?
 
nach0 said:
im also wanting info on this been looking at it and it seems decent but its not cheap. seems like some people are getting good numbers back why taking it but i guess for someone like me who hasnt had and ph before i should get good results?
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I would wait a couple weeks before purchasing this. Not sure if it's the real deal yet or not. I'm on day 5 of 4 pills a day. Haven't put weight on yet. But had a awsome shoulder workout last night. Was pushing more weight than normal, with more reps. I will be posting my results weekly. Hope everyone else does too. 1-ad took about 10-14 days for me in the past before I really started to see results. Will keep you posted.
 
yeah im going to wait about a month and im getting a gym membership at the start of next year so it will be cheaper.
 
Josh916 said:
skinnmakeup said:
It would be great to hear some results from others as you . I was taking 3 pills aday and I agree, much better gains with the ergo. I have 3 bottles left and cant decide if I should take them or chaulk it up as a bad buy.
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What kind of gains did you get with the Bismark brand? How long did you take 3 pills a day? Did you see any results at all?
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I took 3 pills a day for 4 weeks. I gained 6 lbs by end of week 3 but nothing week 4. I did see good strength gains, Squat went from 290 at 8-10 reps to 325, bench went up 20 lbs also. I paid 85.00 a bottle but they are going for a lot less now. i wouldnt pay 85.00 again but i think Id grab them at 40.00 or so.
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BTW, anyone ever heard of Icon Sciences? I've seen some 1-AD being made by them, as well... yet I haven't come across anyone who has used it
 
i can get 5 bottles for $170 should i buy it or keep waiting??
 
I bought some icon science about 2 years ago, came in a blue bottle. Im not sure about that stuff, I didnt buy more so must not have impressed me. I gained a few lbs but nothing huge. I broke a capsule open and it was multi colored gray powder versus white. I gave a bottle to my brother in law and he said he gained 6 lbs and he doesn't work legs. I would personally save my money.
 
BrockR said:
I wish somebody that knows PA well enough would ask him about this stuff
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I did, PM'd him and he said they never sold the rights, graphics or artwork or such to anyone to reproduce. His opinion was it wasnt the same compound as the Ergo Original.
 
I have some coming within the next few days. I used Ergo back in 02 or 03 and was amazed. I am not going to chance my health on ammonia. I will either get some m1T or finaflex which I know is legit-Hell, I may even go and get some real gear for the new-year. All in all, I have heard that the bismark 1AD is at a lower dose-I'm gonna put a picture on here later
 
you cant buy this stuff on ebay no more they took it off and banned it :( what other supplements out there that are just as good or better then 1-ad?
 
i ran across this stuff called "humatrope" it seems like it is very good from what i have read from other sites but it comes in a shot only so you have to give yourself a shot so if you dont like needles then your screwed.
anyone on here hear of or taking humatrope?

"Humatrope is identical to human growth hormone and is used to treat:"
" * Children with short stature or growth failure associated with growth hormone deficiency, Turner syndrome, idiopathic short stature, SHOX deficiency, and failure to catch up in height after small for gestational age birth.

* Adults with growth hormone deficiency."
 
You have to be extremely careful with humatrope. It is also probably fairly expensive. If you are planning on going with any real GH, make sure that you get a physical and ensure that you have no thyroid issues. I have a few friends that used humatrope and got great results. Personally, it's a bit extreme for me-You're playing with fire with GH!!!
 
yeah i did more research and im going to stick with the basic stuff i like looking good but im not spending that kind of money ill just look for other safer products.
 
Finished 8 week cycle of bismark 1-ad. gained 6 lbs, strengh up on all my big lifts. I dont see it for sale ebay anymore either. I would like to get 2 bottles to run another cycle in a few months. Its on sell dot com but more expensive then it was on ebay. I wish I had some of the old ergopharm to compare 2. Seems the same but perhaps slightly less dose. Im not sure.
 
columbo55 said:
Finished 8 week cycle of bismark 1-ad. gained 6 lbs, strengh up on all my big lifts. I dont see it for sale ebay anymore either. I would like to get 2 bottles to run another cycle in a few months. Its on sell dot com but more expensive then it was on ebay. I wish I had some of the old ergopharm to compare 2. Seems the same but perhaps slightly less dose. Im not sure.
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HELLO I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW MANY PILLS A DAY YOU WERE TAKING FOR THE 8 WEEK CYCLE . I AM NEW TO THE PH'S . I AM CURRENTLY TAKING 3 PILLS A DAY. I AM CURRENTLY ON DAY 14 AND I HAVE GAINED A FEW POUNDS WITH NO SIDE EFFECTS . I AM GOING TO RUN A FOUR WEEK CYCLE. I JUST PURCHASED MY SECOND BOTTLE AND WAS THINKING OF GOING TO 6 PILLS A DAY FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF THE CYCLE . I HAVE READ THAT 6 PILLS A DAY HAS GREATER RESULTS . MY ONLY CONCERN IS MY WEIGHT BEING 140LBS AND IF 6 PILLS A DAY WOULD BE TO MUCH.
 
BUSA1300 said:
HELLO I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW MANY PILLS A DAY YOU WERE TAKING FOR THE 8 WEEK CYCLE . I AM NEW TO THE PH'S . I AM CURRENTLY TAKING 3 PILLS A DAY. I AM CURRENTLY ON DAY 14 AND I HAVE GAINED A FEW POUNDS WITH NO SIDE EFFECTS . I AM GOING TO RUN A FOUR WEEK CYCLE. I JUST PURCHASED MY SECOND BOTTLE AND WAS THINKING OF GOING TO 6 PILLS A DAY FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF THE CYCLE . I HAVE READ THAT 6 PILLS A DAY HAS GREATER RESULTS . MY ONLY CONCERN IS MY WEIGHT BEING 140LBS AND IF 6 PILLS A DAY WOULD BE TO MUCH.
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:hmmm:

at 5'11'' 140lbs I suggest taking 0 pills per day and making a trip to the grocery store
 
THANKS FOR THE ADVICE BUT I AM A HARDGAINER!! I REALIZE I AM UNDER WEIGHT BUT NOT LOOKING FOR ADVICE ON NUTRITION JUST WANTING INFORMATION ON THE SUPPLEMENT IF YOU HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THIS PH AND THE DOSAGE.
 
if there is anything else that is good that can help me with gains i might try it but im not big on supps. i take protein and eat very well when im working out.
 
nothing better than food. seriously, the whole basis of gaining is based on food and diet alone, next is training, last is supps. At your size and I assume age, nothing will benefit you more than food, supp w some protein, but just EAT. When you think you have eaten enough, eat more, because I almost guarantee you havent eaten enough to see the results you aspire for. When you become my age, you cant just eat eat eat, you need some help with the nutrient repartioning that your body doesnt do as effectively as when I was young and full of natural hormones. Gaining is basic science...its calories in>than calories out(or maintenance). You have to exceed your norm in calories to see growth.
 
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