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Creatine Nitrate????

SlickRick00 said:
Wats the deal with your creatine nitrate i heard this stuff is prohormone like?????
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Actually bro the pumps with creatine nitrate are superior to pro-hormones (no joke).The muscle fullness is comparable while in the gym just with prohormones you feel that fullness around the clock so ph gets the slight nod there but in the gym its just the same feeling.good thing about the nitrates though the fullness subsides a little but the pump stays with you because according to the literature the nitric oxide effect replicates for up to 8 hours.That is significant considering all other N.O. boosters only provide intermittant millisecond bursts.I am completely fascinated with this stuff.
 
Yea bro ive been taking it a week now and my pumps are redic.. I know that the pumps are where they need to be but is there any bloating or water retention with this new stuff???
 
SlickRick00 said:
Yea bro ive been taking it a week now and my pumps are redic.. I know that the pumps are where they need to be but is there any bloating or water retention with this new stuff???
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Actually quite the opposite.Whereas a mono and other forms cause anywhere from mild to severe bloating the creatine nitrate causes everything to go intracellular and not only balloons the muscle belly but leaves you pretty damn dry and tight.I'm getting ready to hit my second run with it so i will play around with dosing schemes and such and let you know what i find.I want to push the limits to see where maximum saturation is without having to deal with extremely low blood pressure.I didn't get any headaches or dizziness( reported by some guys) at all so i want to try and get my preworkout dose up to maybe 1.5 the reccommended dose and see if there are any added benefits without sides.How bout you,have you experimented at all with this run?
 
Yea... As of now im just doing the recommended 4 before i train and the remaining four after i train. Should i switch it up and mix and match a little??
 
SlickRick00 said:
Yea... As of now im just doing the recommended 4 before i train and the remaining four after i train. Should i switch it up and mix and match a little??
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No question.both myself and my training partner felt almost nothing on four.But when changed to 5 pre-workout was like throwing a switch (huge difference)thats when the massive pumps and fullness started happening.i think you are experiencing less than half of what this has to offer.Step up to 5 or 6 and see what i mean. dont know if weight or body mass is huge factor or not we both weigh between 225-235 lbs.so check it out!
 
with thermolife cbol i use the suggested dose, 6 pre and 6 post for only 5 days.

after the nitrates are loaded into my system i take 6 pre-workout, and only on workout days.

a bottle lasts forever.
 
ax1 said:
with thermolife cbol i use the suggested dose, 6 pre and 6 post for only 5 days.

after the nitrates are loaded into my system i take 6 pre-workout, and only on workout days.

a bottle lasts forever.
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sounds like a good scheme.I never loaded only took on workout days
 
i stacked cbol with vpx powershock which has amino nitrates and beta alanine nitrates.

dont ever take it to close together, you will get lighheaded and feel like throwing up.

i took the cbol 30 minutes prior to training and powershock withing 30 minutes into my workout.

cbol has NAC which gives additional benefits in preventing nitrate tolerance. vitamin c helps with this also.
 
ax1 said:
i stacked cbol with vpx powershock which has amino nitrates and beta alanine nitrates.

dont ever take it to close together, you will get lighheaded and feel like throwing up.

i took the cbol 30 minutes prior to training and powershock withing 30 minutes into my workout.

cbol has NAC which gives additional benefits in preventing nitrate tolerance. vitamin c helps with this also.
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Whew yeah,thats alot of nitrates!Had a buddy just the other day told me he took 3000 mgs (3x recc dose) of creatine nitrate.His blood pressure fell through the floor and screwed him up for a few hours.more is definately not better with this stuff so people should stick real close to the guidelines with nitrates.
 
ax1 said:
i stacked cbol with vpx powershock which has amino nitrates and beta alanine nitrates.

dont ever take it to close together, you will get lighheaded and feel like throwing up.

i took the cbol 30 minutes prior to training and powershock withing 30 minutes into my workout.

cbol has NAC which gives additional benefits in preventing nitrate tolerance. vitamin c helps with this also.
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Very cool idea... I have taken Power Shock before as n intra-aid, and really liked it. I'm interested in reading more science behind nitrates and their synergy with other supplements. Would this be something that could favorably stack with a GDA with L-Norvaline in it?
 
Outstanding said:
Very cool idea... I have taken Power Shock before as n intra-aid, and really liked it. I'm interested in reading more science behind nitrates and their synergy with other supplements. Would this be something that could favorably stack with a GDA with L-Norvaline in it?
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"GDA with L-Norvaline"

never heard of it, sorry.

now check this link out....
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basically........ nitrates increases protein synthesis.
 
ax1 said:
"GDA with L-Norvaline"

never heard of it, sorry.

now check this link out....
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basically, what this is trying to say is that nitrates increases protein synthesis.
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Haha, I didn't want to come in here and name drop the product my sponsoring company makes, but it is a GDA (Glucose Disposal Agent) infused with L-Norvaline to further enhance the muscle fullness of carbohydrate mediated blood glucose stores and inhibition of the arginase enzyme... seemed to compliment the function of nitrates very well, so I was intrigued.
 
Outstanding said:
Haha, I didn't want to come in here and name drop the product my sponsoring company makes, but it is a GDA (Glucose Disposal Agent) infused with L-Norvaline to further enhance the muscle fullness of carbohydrate mediated blood glucose stores and inhibition of the arginase enzyme... seemed to compliment the function of nitrates very well, so I was intrigued.
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its ok.......i know your companies products are definitely positive and your giving valuable information. ill have to look into those.
 
Outstanding said:
Very cool idea... I have taken Power Shock before as n intra-aid, and really liked it. I'm interested in reading more science behind nitrates and their synergy with other supplements. Would this be something that could favorably stack with a GDA with L-Norvaline in it?
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neutralizing arginase (enzyme) is not a top priority with nitrates as you are not producing nitric oxide via same progression as arginine precursor.You will get substantial continueous nitric oxide production for a solid 8 hours regardless of whether you block arginase or not.Stuff is amazing.Brings up a good point though.people will begin to associate many of their previous N.O. practices as in trying to induce more N.O.Not reccommended for the same reason you don't ever take nitrates with PDE-5 inhibitors,it could cause a very unsafe drop in blood preassure!Tust me all you need are the nitrates they do not need the assistence that other N.O.potentiators do and it just might cause you some problems.
 
Quick side note though.The response was to the effect of norvaline and creatine nitrate.Nitrates Make pretty much everything taken with work better so it may be highly complimentary to the formula in general.As it would prob make the ingredients more effective,more soluble etc.Not to mention adding the dimention of extreme pump and vascularity to the benefits of the base formula.Instead of creatine nitrate you may in fact find l-leucine nitrate to be an ideal addition depending on the desired effect of that particular formula.
 
wow this stuff sounds really good. i may have to try some
 
more knowledge said:
neutralizing arginase (enzyme) is not a top priority with nitrates as you are not producing nitric oxide via same progression as arginine precursor.You will get substantial continueous nitric oxide production for a solid 8 hours regardless of whether you block arginase or not.Stuff is amazing.Brings up a good point though.people will begin to associate many of their previous N.O. practices as in trying to induce more N.O.Not reccommended for the same reason you don't ever take nitrates with PDE-5 inhibitors,it could cause a very unsafe drop in blood preassure!Tust me all you need are the nitrates they do not need the assistence that other N.O.potentiators do and it just might cause you some problems.
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Great post, I appreciate the information. So you wouldn't advice taking a creatine nitrate with GPLC for instance?
 
Outstanding said:
Great post, I appreciate the information. So you wouldn't advice taking a creatine nitrate with GPLC for instance?
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I am just going by the literature but they might just be being extra carefull don't know.There have been a ton of threads debating this and nothing conclusive has come from them.I took some cit malate with mine and had no problems so take that for what it's worth.On my next round trust me i will be playing around with various dosing schemes and synergistic compounds to get some answers.Have some bcaa nitrates on the way so will start prob end of next week.Tell you what i hope you can stack the two you have mentioned cause i love the GPLC,Not so much for N.O. i just feel great when i take it.Would be great for anyone with partial arterial blockage or even platelet agression/cardiac conditions.
 
more knowledge said:
I am just going by the literature but they might just be being extra carefull don't know.There have been a ton of threads debating this and nothing conclusive has come from them.I took some cit malate with mine and had no problems so take that for what it's worth.On my next round trust me i will be playing around with various dosing schemes and synergistic compounds to get some answers.Have some bcaa nitrates on the way so will start prob end of next week.Tell you what i hope you can stack the two you have mentioned cause i love the GPLC,Not so much for N.O. i just feel great when i take it.Would be great for anyone with partial arterial blockage or even platelet agression/cardiac conditions.
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That sounds great, please do keep us informed!
 
Ive been experimenting with how much and when i take APS creo nitrate...... Currently i take 8 per training day.....and.... 4 on non-training days.
-1 hr before i train...... take 5
- Post workout....... i take the remaining 3
non workout days i take 2am and 2 in the afternoon.. Does this stuff really work for 8 hours???????
 
flightposite said:
wow this stuff sounds really good. i may have to try some
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SlickRick00 said:
Ive been experimenting with how much and when i take APS creo nitrate...... Currently i take 8 per training day.....and.... 4 on non-training days.
-1 hr before i train...... take 5
- Post workout....... i take the remaining 3
non workout days i take 2am and 2 in the afternoon.. Does this stuff really work for 8 hours???????
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The nitrates will help you feel pumped all day long, the feeling is incredible.
 
Stupid question-

I have C-BOL, I'm more concerned with being safe than anything.
1. Are there any stimulants in this product? I think not, want to be certain.
2. Dosing says 6 capsules 2x daily.
each dose has 3000 mg's of their creatine blend?
Is 6 2x daily best for 5 days and then just 6 cap on workout days only?

Any input greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Jon
 
JWest0926 said:
Stupid question-

I have C-BOL, I'm more concerned with being safe than anything.
1. Are there any stimulants in this product? I think not, want to be certain.
2. Dosing says 6 capsules 2x daily.
each dose has 3000 mg's of their creatine blend?
Is 6 2x daily best for 5 days and then just 6 cap on workout days only?

Any input greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Jon
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If your question is concerning C-Bol, I would contact a representative of their company. I can not speak on their products.
 
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