MUSCLETECH ( need help )

Aminos come from protein, and any pills containing aminos will be more useless than a single bite of meat.
 
so if usp labs is crap and muscletech is crap, and i dont like bsn virtually nothing happened while taking the official sponsors of the ufcs products (lol) then what products should i take im switching my protein because i can get big bags in bulk of EAS from sams down the road in flo town its got like 26 grams per serving it doesnt look bright and shiny but its going to save me money
so thats my protein
and my amino complex im going for
bcaa
what next if usp labs is crap i was going to try the powerfull
or prime ??
 
10bathroomsO said:
so if usp labs is crap and muscletech is crap, and i dont like bsn virtually nothing happened while taking the official sponsors of the ufcs products (lol) then what products should i take im switching my protein because i can get big bags in bulk of EAS from sams down the road in flo town its got like 26 grams per serving it doesnt look bright and shiny but its going to save me money
so thats my protein
and my amino complex im going for
bcaa
what next if usp labs is crap i was going to try the powerfull
or prime ??
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usp labs is not crap IMO, i think its top notch stuff, IMO protein is protein thats how i see it i dont think switching from one to another more expensive is gonna give you amazing results, but i use 100% whey gold standard cuz its cheap, good servings very clean, and its supposed to be one of the bests
 
The placebo effect that these products have on guys new to lifting or new to supplementation is absolutely amazing.

I have seen the same with guys giving other guys aspirin and telling them they are 'steroids'.

I think the placebo effect is the next best thing to actually using anything that really helps, and MT is great at producing it.
 
thats the thing i wasnt completely new to supplements i did a couple cycles when i was 18 the years inbetween were spent partying and working out of town since of late 2009 ive been back on and im more serious then ever about it since christmas ive shot up from approx. 162 - 163
to 189 - 190
in body weight i feel stronger than ever and actually have gotten better looking abs as i gained weight

but about the protein i feel the same way, protein is protein but i wasnt about to say it and have a array of insults reign down on me followed after the 73 different types of proteins i should be taking
 
10bathroomsO said:
thats the thing i wasnt completely new to supplements i did a couple cycles when i was 18 the years inbetween were spent partying and working out of town since of late 2009 ive been back on and im more serious then ever about it since christmas ive shot up from approx. 162 - 163
to 189 - 190
in body weight i feel stronger than ever and actually have gotten better looking abs as i gained weight

but about the protein i feel the same way, protein is protein but i wasnt about to say it and have a array of insults reign down on me followed after the 73 different types of proteins i should be taking
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when you were 18 what cycles did you do? muscletech or are we talking PH/AAS?
 
i cant remember the first i know that muscle milk was the protein i was taking on the first and i took alot of vitamins and fish oils and i think cell tech for creatine
the second was a jay cutler mass stack i got for a christmas present, and to be honest i couldnt stand it i felt sick half the time whenever i wasnt working out and i could barely eat because i felt so full from all the water i was taking in to take the 20+ pills a day on work out days and topping it with cell tech nitro tech and anator p70 i thought then that the sickness feeling was normal i would come out of cycle huge and feel all better instead i came out of cycle quite chubby and hating supplements, thus 2 years later im watching what im taking, was still taking muscletech for a while but im not looking to be jay cutler or branch or any of those guys this time around i gotta work with what my body will allow me to work with i guess and since ive had that mentality my body has done nothing short of suprise me more and more, when i was 17 and 18 i thought i would never get passed 205 on my bench press now i can max out at 270 + ( i never add the bar ) and it feels great, when wenter comes around im ready to pack on the weight and get up to 330 maybe even 350 before next summer, i can only hope
 
330 and 350 part was talking about max bench, not body weight, i dont want my body weight to get over 220 im only 5'9 and i dont want to get up to 280 and look like a troll
 
10bathroomsO said:
i cant remember the first i know that muscle milk was the protein i was taking on the first and i took alot of vitamins and fish oils and i think cell tech for creatine
the second was a jay cutler mass stack i got for a christmas present, and to be honest i couldnt stand it i felt sick half the time whenever i wasnt working out and i could barely eat because i felt so full from all the water i was taking in to take the 20+ pills a day on work out days and topping it with cell tech nitro tech and anator p70 i thought then that the sickness feeling was normal i would come out of cycle huge and feel all better instead i came out of cycle quite chubby and hating supplements, thus 2 years later im watching what im taking, was still taking muscletech for a while but im not looking to be jay cutler or branch or any of those guys this time around i gotta work with what my body will allow me to work with i guess and since ive had that mentality my body has done nothing short of suprise me more and more, when i was 17 and 18 i thought i would never get passed 205 on my bench press now i can max out at 270 + ( i never add the bar ) and it feels great, when wenter comes around im ready to pack on the weight and get up to 330 maybe even 350 before next summer, i can only hope
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Ok, you need to stop referring to muscletech supplements as "cycles". When you say cycle, people think you are talking about STEROIDS. You took some ****ty supplements is all. BTW USP labs is great. Controlled labs is great. CEL is great..
 
a cycle is a cycle to me, i can cycle on pizza for a month i can cycle on kush for a month i can cycle on modern warfare 2 for a month and im not trying to be a prick but cycle has been used in refrence to supplements for a veryy looooonnggg time g unit.
and im not calling usp labs crap, i havent taken it, it was referred to me and then a few post down it was called crap, muscletech hasnt really been crap this time around ( im not taking their " wonder " stacks this time either ) but im ready to get off MT its completely overpriced ive come to realize that. but i can say BSN is crap to me i got no gains from it at alllllll i got heartburn and indegestion i think everytime i took their no xplode, thats about it
 
10bathroomsO said:
i cant remember the first i know that muscle milk was the protein i was taking on the first and i took alot of vitamins and fish oils and i think cell tech for creatine
the second was a jay cutler mass stack i got for a christmas present, and to be honest i couldnt stand it i felt sick half the time whenever i wasnt working out and i could barely eat because i felt so full from all the water i was taking in to take the 20+ pills a day on work out days and topping it with cell tech nitro tech and anator p70 i thought then that the sickness feeling was normal i would come out of cycle huge and feel all better instead i came out of cycle quite chubby and hating supplements, thus 2 years later im watching what im taking, was still taking muscletech for a while but im not looking to be jay cutler or branch or any of those guys this time around i gotta work with what my body will allow me to work with i guess and since ive had that mentality my body has done nothing short of suprise me more and more, when i was 17 and 18 i thought i would never get passed 205 on my bench press now i can max out at 270 + ( i never add the bar ) and it feels great, when wenter comes around im ready to pack on the weight and get up to 330 maybe even 350 before next summer, i can only hope
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That's cool. I am talking about the placebo effect mainly for people who think they are on some sort of miracle drug or on something the pro's really use instead of drugs, etc.

I don't think they make horribly bad products (Anabolic Halo looks horribly bad though). I do think they make average products for an extremely above average price.

Just try using bulk creatine and grape juice and compare your appearance to using Cell Tech. Use Testopro and compare to Cryotest.

I believe those 2 options are much cheaper, and deliver the same results or in the case of Testopro much better.
 
dude my dad was just telling me i should use the pure creatine with grap juice, i swear lol, thats weird but he said he used to work out in the gym with this guy whowas benchin like 500 plus one day he threw a 50 pound dumbell through the wall because he couldnt bench 540 his 6th time on his 3rd set ( sounds jacked up to me ) but yeah thats pretty much the reason i have faith in supplements as child i watched my dad go from the normal joe to 250 plus pounds of muscle i watched him and his buddy bench press over 450 pounds when i was like 7 years old and it almost scared me lol, but it was all thanks to the kitchen cabinet i wasnt allowed in, now i have me one of those cabinets
 
10bathroomsO said:
a cycle is a cycle to me, i can cycle on pizza for a month i can cycle on kush for a month i can cycle on modern warfare 2 for a month and im not trying to be a prick but cycle has been used in refrence to supplements for a veryy looooonnggg time g unit.
and im not calling usp labs crap, i havent taken it, it was referred to me and then a few post down it was called crap, muscletech hasnt really been crap this time around ( im not taking their " wonder " stacks this time either ) but im ready to get off MT its completely overpriced ive come to realize that. but i can say BSN is crap to me i got no gains from it at alllllll i got heartburn and indegestion i think everytime i took their no xplode, thats about it
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bsn and muscletech dont make good products IMO. however my bro usesd to love no xplode but his off of it now since he doesnt workout that much no more. and good for you man MT is not worth the price, maybe on clearence @ $10-$20. and usp labs makes for the most part good supps and i think controlled labs makes some of the BEST's supps, the only complain i have towards USP is that some of their products are questionable, meaning they can be a hit or a miss for a lot of people. like anabolic pump worked great for me but some say they noticed nothing, prime also hit and a miss, but OEP seems to be solid for most people. not trying to down USP cuz they are a very good company but some times i strike out with their supps. the ones i like from them are AP, jacked, OEP, and recreate
 
well no xplode didnt work well for me the first 3 days or so i had a good run nice pumps similiar to nano vapor, then it quit working i gained tolerance faster than pain killers, but im not focused on pre work outs really its kinda useless except for aminos i guess
 
22. You don't even have to work out.

@ the serious part of the thread:

Glad we showed you MT was bad :) ALL Supps are hit and miss in my limited experience, you could very well be a non-responder to 98% of stuff. This is why I am still trying something new every time I make a purchase. I have like 6 different tubs of pre-workout now, as well as a large stash of nutrient partitioners, and I am starting to pick up some random PH stuff for later o.O This site is very good for wading through the BS of staring at a wall of supps and picking what sounds good. A big thing is when you are going to buy something, look up the ingredients. You normally don't need to spend a ton of time doing this, as you will see in the first few studies if it is bunk or not. Creatine / protein will ALWAYS help you. You may need to try several type of creatine, but it's the most researched supp there is. Follow people's logs in the supplement review thread, and make your decisions based on that.

@ the cycle comment: You will always catch some crap from most of us when you talk about cycling pizza seriously lol. a cycle on here is much heavier than normal supplementation. Natadrol, M-1D are some of the lighter ones...Hdrol, Pmag, epi, etc. are some of the heavier ones...cycle is not protein, creatine, noxplode, pizza, etc :P
 
im familiar with steroids ( havent took them ) but im not ignorant to them, i know or atleast am 98% positive all of the pros have spent tons of time with them speaking of is there anyone who has tried d bol and winni v ??
 
23. It's cheaper than the late, great Xyience


..man that NOX CG3 was $124 for arginine and creatine !

Chuck Liddell uses it though and that's why he's such a good fighter !
 
AK32408 said:
23. It's cheaper than the late, great Xyience


..man that NOX CG3 was $124 for arginine and creatine !

Chuck Liddell uses it though and that's why he's such a good fighter !
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24. it comes with a hardcore shirt
 
25. You will get diabetes from all the sugar. Now, you may say, "but votum that's not a con!" but here me out. As a result of your new diabetes, you will have an even better diet than you did before.
 
votum said:
25. You will get diabetes from all the sugar. Now, you may say, "but votum that's not a PRO!" but here me out. As a result of your new diabetes, you will have an even better diet than you did before.
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you put con instead of pro
FIXED****
 
26. the cash you will spend will lead to bankrupt which means you wont be able to afford roids, cocaine, weed, speed, PCP, etc.
 
In my personal experience you pay for the MuscleTech name and not much else. I really don't invest time even researching their products anymore.

I have great faith in Scivation products. A lot of my progress has been through their supplements.
Meal replacement - Scivation's Solution 5
N/O - USPLabs Jack3d but via colleagues ill also recommend Controlled Labs White Flood
Amino - Scivation XTend
Protein - now that depends on what you're looking for. Once again, I use Scivation
General Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey (it's actually an isolate) or EAS
Isolate Muscle Guage Isolate Whey Protein
Casein Optimum Nutrition's
OR Go to Trueprotein.com and make your own :)
 
10bathroomsO said:
seriously has anyone tried d bol and winni v
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the real stuff? or that hi-tech crap?
d bol should be an excellent bulker but i would take it with some epistane or formestane or some type of AI. winni should be a good cutter, thats if your talkin real.
 
rochabp said:
the real stuff? or that hi-tech crap?
d bol should be an excellent bulker but i would take it with some epistane or formestane or some type of AI. winni should be a good cutter, thats if your talkin real.
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Exactly ! haha

The stuff in the Muscular Development magazines seems to be low grade, (I have my reasons for that statement, lol) compared to the real stuff. Friends bought that stuff and then bought the real stuff and the differences were night and day according to them.

But, why would you want that when MuscleTech is readily available at GNC ??
 
I remember Nano Vapor(old formula) helped me less than a cup of coffee, and gave me a weird crash where I basicaly lost any form of personality.
 
I have been to THAILAND, and INDONESIA. mmmm I miss it. Bro, I would go online to *************. They are having a crazy blowout sale rightnow. Get some Dymatize ELITE WHEY, CREATINE MONOHYDRATE, AND MUSCLEMEDS CODE RED. Then get some extend. Blue rasberry. Its great to drink while you workout. MUSCLETECH Is in it for the money. They prey on guys like you. Its how they built their fortune. Jay cutler is laughing all the way to the bank. They endorse over 200 athletes. I dont buy their crap.
 
MT has the most loyal customers out there. That's why MT threads are so long everyone wants to show the best Supp company some love. I also just wanted to thank the fine people at MT for making a product that made my muscles so big without lifting a single dumbbell. Truly amazing LOL
 
29. If you snort the powder you get getter gains.


I would recommend that EAS protein at sams. It's 6lbs for 30 bucks and iv'e used it tons.
But then again i don't drink my protein by itself! I mix it with:

4 scoops of protein
1 banana
1 cup of oats
3 tbsp olive oil
1/2 cup blue berries
3 tbsp of peanut butter
10-15 grams of creatine

then i divide it into two servings and wala! 2000 extra clean calories in my bulk diet. Now if that doesn't put weight on your Muscletech loving ass then i'll buy you some GAKIC HARDCORE.

PS: you can buy like ten flats of eggs @ 36 per flat, 10 lbs. of 93/7 ground beef, 12 lbs of chicken breasts, and two huge jars of peanut butter for the same price as your favorite "cycle" of powder.
 
nyoung807 said:
29. If you snort the powder you get getter gains.


I would recommend that EAS protein at sams. It's 6lbs for 30 bucks and iv'e used it tons.
But then again i don't drink my protein by itself! I mix it with:

4 scoops of protein1 banana
1 cup of oats
3 tbsp olive oil
1/2 cup blue berries
3 tbsp of peanut butter
10-15 grams of creatine

then i divide it into two servings and wala! 2000 extra clean calories in my bulk diet. Now if that doesn't put weight on your Muscletech loving ass then i'll buy you some GAKIC HARDCORE.

PS: you can buy like ten flats of eggs @ 36 per flat, 10 lbs. of 93/7 ground beef, 12 lbs of chicken breasts, and two huge jars of peanut butter for the same price as your favorite "cycle" of powder.
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Your going to be huge if you mix your protein with 4 scoops of protein! :D
 
kingdong said:
Muscletech to steroids is a huge leap. Do some good supplements before you jump to roids.
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Man solid advice !

Always, always, start with less potent stuff. After that, then you can start on the MuscleTech.

Good Luck !
 
Just got a secret decoder ring with my purchase of naNO X9, and Nitro Tech !

Can't wait for the new issue of Muscle Mag so I can see what the hidden message in the Cell Tech ad is !!
 
muscletech is so good i gained 20lbs in 2 days while taking my bodyfat percentage to a negative 10%,on hydroxycut, yeah hydroxycut, and scary things is i wasnt the hardcore series. and i was taking in 8000+ calories a meal and no cardio neccessary i just slept and woke up at meal time.
 
why is everyone still adressing me, i got what i needed 3 pages ago. thanks for all the help. and nah im not wanting to start taking d bol and winni v im actually happy with my gains i only need something to help me to the next 15 pounds and then im done with the extreme supplement use. when i get to 210 ill only use protein and multi vitamins
 
10bathroomsO said:
why is everyone still adressing me, i got what i needed 3 pages ago. thanks for all the help. and nah im not wanting to start taking d bol and winni v im actually happy with my gains i only need something to help me to the next 15 pounds and then im done with the extreme supplement use. when i get to 210 ill only use protein and multi vitamins
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If you really know how to workout, and really understand a good to great diet, you could easily be benching 450# within two years without any supplements. At your age you have a lot of test. Strength gains and muscle gains are easy, the true problems come with avoiding injury once you get above the high 300 pound ranges. There are weaknesses that show up in the shoulders, in the elbows, and sometimes in the wrist areas.
 
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