New cycle of Test and Prohormones

OK OK OK.

First, slow things down hyper.

Dude really, seriously back up for just a minute, breathe and LISTEN UP.

This cycle has gotten away from you, that's a lot of test and deca for a first cycle IMO... plus with all those orals at random dosages and timing and scheduling...

AND NOW YOU'RE ON CLENBUTEROL??? Dude, DROP the clen if you have any instinct of self-preservation and thought for your own well-being, you are just doing this like an idiot, i'm sorry but there's no nice way to say it.

That letro + deca is prolly not gonna do well for your sex drive... plus this cycle is gonna have you shut down really hard so get ready. Please don't just jump on the strongest ANTI-E available because you're obviously not emotionally stable. This is why steroids get a bad rap, because you are not being responsible at all with these powerful chemicals.



You're running the risk of some cardio issues and worse running clen... dude seriously please please please at least stop taking it as you really obviously can't tell that you're not doing yourself any favors... You complain of emotional problems and then jump on nolva and letro??? not the best idea. Then you say you arne't feeling the test but you're bigger but "not that much stronger?" and yet you're all over the place.

Dude really I am not trying to flame here but you should really lock it up... dude first cycle should be something simple, like 1-10 500mg/test week and that's it... maybe an oral kickstart... i'm glad yuo are using HCG at least because you are gonna be shut down believe me with orals, test, and deca at moderate to high dosages.

brother you are not going to enjoy pct. please tell us what your'e running so we can tell you how to finish out this cycle.

if anyone else is reading and thinking about starting their first cycle, please think of this thread as a perfect example of the wrong way to cycle.

get a game plan, stick to that game plan.
 
thanks for the input

onzero said:
OK OK OK.

First, slow things down hyper.

Dude really, seriously back up for just a minute, breathe and LISTEN UP.

This cycle has gotten away from you, that's a lot of test and deca for a first cycle IMO... plus with all those orals at random dosages and timing and scheduling...

AND NOW YOU'RE ON CLENBUTEROL??? Dude, DROP the clen if you have any instinct of self-preservation and thought for your own well-being, you are just doing this like an idiot, i'm sorry but there's no nice way to say it.

That letro + deca is prolly not gonna do well for your sex drive... plus this cycle is gonna have you shut down really hard so get ready. Please don't just jump on the strongest ANTI-E available because you're obviously not emotionally stable. This is why steroids get a bad rap, because you are not being responsible at all with these powerful chemicals.



You're running the risk of some cardio issues and worse running clen... dude seriously please please please at least stop taking it as you really obviously can't tell that you're not doing yourself any favors... You complain of emotional problems and then jump on nolva and letro??? not the best idea. Then you say you arne't feeling the test but you're bigger but "not that much stronger?" and yet you're all over the place.

Dude really I am not trying to flame here but you should really lock it up... dude first cycle should be something simple, like 1-10 500mg/test week and that's it... maybe an oral kickstart... i'm glad yuo are using HCG at least because you are gonna be shut down believe me with orals, test, and deca at moderate to high dosages.

brother you are not going to enjoy pct. please tell us what your'e running so we can tell you how to finish out this cycle.

if anyone else is reading and thinking about starting their first cycle, please think of this thread as a perfect example of the wrong way to cycle.

get a game plan, stick to that game plan.
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I thought that I posted about not taking the clen anymore because it was making me too shaky and have very rapid heart beating. I took it for about 3 days and stopped. So no more clen right now for me.

I started it off with phera plex, and some other orals for a few days, but after about 3 days on the other orals I decided to just stick with the phera plex. That seems like so long ago now! It has been close to 10 weeks I've been on this cycle now. I started taking the deca about 4 weeks into it. I would guess that I have about 2 more weeks worth of deca, and about 3 more weeks of test-e(300mg/ml)

I have access to another bottle of Test if I need it, but I really didn't want to run the cycle for a whole 16 weeks. I wanted to keep it at 12, but shouldn't I take some test for a couple of weeks after the deca is finished to keep from being 'shut down hard'?

I have hcg for pct, along with clomid and nolva. I have letro as an AI.

What I figure is this: After my last shot of test, I will start the HCG the next day or so and use it every 3rd day until it is gone.

After 14 days from my last shot of test I will start the clomid/nolva at these doses...

Clomid: 50/50/50/50
Nolva: 20/20/20/20/10

Or something like that?

My experience in the past with other substances is, what goes up, must come down, and I really have not been feeling that 'UP' - I mean, I get in good moods that I might say could be from taking the test, but it's nothing extreme.

I sense that the PCT will be similar - I might get in bad moods, but they won't be too extreme, I hope.

Has anyone ever given themselves a 'maintenance' shot of test, like 100mg during their Pct?
 
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Gator 87 said:
That would defeat the purpose of PCT, since it would be "blast and cruise", not cycling. You can't use any AAS during PCT.
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I had read somewhere a guy during the holidays gave himself a shot of test to 'regulate' or something because his PCT was going bad. He said he was fine after that.
 
hyperkondriac said:
I had read somewhere a guy during the holidays gave himself a shot of test to 'regulate' or something because his PCT was going bad. He said he was fine after that.
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And alot of people say and do alot of things that make no sense at all. In fact, the majority of the population falls under this category.

Testosterone from outside the Endocrine system will only further induce shutdown. You need to understand what takes place in your body regarding hormones, androgen receptors, the brain and endocrine system before considering to make your own decisions about cycling.

Oh, and you should have taken the HCG during cycle. People use is PCT but it really serves best during the cycle. For instance, if you did a twelve week cycle you would start taking HCG on the 3rd week and stop taking the HCG by the 11th week. Then resume the last few injections and go with low dose Nolva + Clomid + Natty Test Booster + Cortisol control and lots of heart and cholesterol healthy foods and supplements during PCT. 4 weeks later -> done and still holding solid gains (as long as you eat right).
 
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