Best stack for gyno prone?

Geoff2383

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Hey folks,

I'm a classic ectomorph and prone to gyno. I am looking to start my second cycle.

My first cycle, just under a year ago, included Omnevol and Spawn. This was a suggestion by a personal trainer. The guy claimed he just finished the same cycle. He was JACKED so I went with it. In the end I gained a whopping 25 lbs in about 2 months BUT I also gained a nasty case of gyno which I still have a very mild case of today. Then, through a series of unfortunate life events, being sick a couple times, and a few periods of financial destitution I managed to lose all of my gains.

Now, I'm in great health again and in a stable place. I am ready to start a new cycle that provides for great gains but has low to no estrogen or liver related side-effects. My goal is to put on at least a solid and sustainable 30 pounds in no more than a years time. SO, anyone have suggestions for me? I am pretty much open to trying just about anything.

Thanks,

G
 
The best coarse of action would be to have some letro or arimidex on hand to treat the gyno rather than limit your choices of ph/aas. Also, It is gonna be reeeeaaallllly hard to gain 30lbs in 1yr on otc orals, It may be in your best interest to find a good source and start pinning if your serious about your goal. But to answer your question, Epistane is a very good choice for people who need some estrogen control, but like everything else, gyno is a slight possibility. The problem with Epistane is you are not going to gain 30lbs in a year with it...
 
Ok, so where do I begin?

Thanks for the advice man.

Really, I WOULD like to get more serious than just the oral ph's. I just have no idea where to begin. I've done some research but I'm way too overwhelmed by all the choices out there to make a decision.

I guess I need more guidance and advice specifically geared toward steroids. I know a few guys that use with great results but they keep it all a big secret and won't talk about what they use or where they get it.

I'm serious about packing on some major mass and fast. I just want to do it right.

So, what do I do? Where do I begin?
 
my mate is 19 ans took 4 wks of deca and sus 2 stone was the result but now hes off the stuff hes finding it hard to recover. he took 0.5 deca 0.5 sus on a wed and a sunday. personally i wouldnt recomend something like this for ur 1st cycle though. epi and a good diet. gl dude
 
h2bEK said:
The best coarse of action would be to have some letro or arimidex on hand to treat the gyno rather than limit your choices of ph/aas. Also, It is gonna be reeeeaaallllly hard to gain 30lbs in 1yr on otc orals, It may be in your best interest to find a good source and start pinning if your serious about your goal. But to answer your question, Epistane is a very good choice for people who need some estrogen control, but like everything else, gyno is a slight possibility. The problem with Epistane is you are not going to gain 30lbs in a year with it...
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Thanks for the info man. I still don't know much about all this. I have quite a bit to learn before I do this and I am ready to absorb all the knowledge I can. Can't say I am even sure what you mean by "pinning" unless its just slang for injecting. Forgive me for my ignorance.
 
dannyeff said:
my mate is 19 ans took 4 wks of deca and sus 2 stone was the result but now hes off the stuff hes finding it hard to recover. he took 0.5 deca 0.5 sus on a wed and a sunday. personally i wouldnt recomend something like this for ur 1st cycle though. epi and a good diet. gl dude
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Thanks for the insight into your friend's experience. I'll keep that in mind.
 
no problem, just keep it in mind:) he never took any pct. guy who sold him the gear said hes young enough to recover himself and no signs of gyno witch is good:) its really upto u:p xxx
 
what was ur pct for spawn and omnevol maybee ur not gyno prone after all these need a well planned pct if not gyno is almost inevitable for anyone
 
Geoff2383 said:
Thanks for the info man. I still don't know much about all this. I have quite a bit to learn before I do this and I am ready to absorb all the knowledge I can. Can't say I am even sure what you mean by "pinning" unless its just slang for injecting. Forgive me for my ignorance.
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Hey, no problem man, and yes pinning is slang for injecting. Don't rely solely on aas/ph for your goal. Eat like a maniac all the time, do your research and when the time is right, choose your coarse of action...
 
Geoff2383 said:
Thanks for the advice man.

Really, I WOULD like to get more serious than just the oral ph's. I just have no idea where to begin. I've done some research but I'm way too overwhelmed by all the choices out there to make a decision.

I guess I need more guidance and advice specifically geared toward steroids. I know a few guys that use with great results but they keep it all a big secret and won't talk about what they use or where they get it.

I'm serious about packing on some major mass and fast. I just want to do it right.

So, what do I do? Where do I begin?
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If your really serious about bulking up quick your going to need injectables, also the inj's you pick need to be fast acting so they you will begin to see gains the 2nd wk instead of the 4-5th. What have you ran in the past??

If this isnt your hardcore cycle you should stick to a mild oral compound. If you have already done that try stacking a mild oral and something stronger.

I was a total dumbass in college and ran lots of inj cycles, it was one of the stupidest things ive done in my 25yrs.

Next, if you need to ask ?'s about what to do i dont think your ready to really get on a strong stack. I would research, find old threads, logs, during that time you will find what compounds will do the trick for your goals. Goodluck
 
Eric160 said:
what was ur pct for spawn and omnevol maybee ur not gyno prone after all these need a well planned pct if not gyno is almost inevitable for anyone
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The guy that sold the Omnevol and Spawn told me just to take Novdex XT as a pct. I didn't think to do research on all of these substances at the time. I didn't know how to properly cycle them together, their side effects, etc. I went with the guy's sales tactic and saw how jacked he was and ran with it. I put on quite a bit of mass and my strength was insane compared to what I was used to. Then half way through the spawn my nipples became very sensitive and a little puffy. I blew it off until after I ran the Novedex and the puffiness became hard lumps. Then I freaked out. After several bottles of natural test boosters and estrogen suppressants over the the course of a year I finally gave up on pills to get rid of it. It flared up pretty badly right after I went completely clean but after a few months of that the gyno almost completely subsided and it hasn't been an issue since. I also haven't used anything since then so I don't know if it will happen again. I learned a good lesson the hard way. Now I am ready to really step it up but I want to do it right.
 
gymrat827 said:
If your really serious about bulking up quick your going to need injectables, also the inj's you pick need to be fast acting so they you will begin to see gains the 2nd wk instead of the 4-5th. What have you ran in the past??

If this isnt your hardcore cycle you should stick to a mild oral compound. If you have already done that try stacking a mild oral and something stronger.

I was a total dumbass in college and ran lots of inj cycles, it was one of the stupidest things ive done in my 25yrs.

Next, if you need to ask ?'s about what to do i dont think your ready to really get on a strong stack. I would research, find old threads, logs, during that time you will find what compounds will do the trick for your goals. Goodluck
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Thanks for the advice man. You're right that I am not quite ready yet. I'm in the right mindset and totally geared up for it but I need to do more research. I have also been reading up on some old threads since I posted here. I wanted to get info from all angles possible. I learn more everday. Thanks for helping out.
 
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