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First cycle choice?

Machwon1

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WEhat do ou guys think is my best choice for a first cylce? My goal gain 15lbs while dropping 2% bodyfat. I am 5'9 182 right now at 12% body fat. I have been training for a year and half now dedicated. I eat everything in sight but make sure its clean. My goal is to be 205@10%BF and stay there for the rest of my life ahha. I will give you soem background. I am 22 23 in may. I gained 10lbs in the last 3 months all good weight on a clean bulk. I workout six days a week and on sunday u chop wood for a hour a day. I eat at least 3000calories a day if not closer to 4000. While on cylce i will eat at least 3600 a day. So what are you suggestions?

I was thinking CEL Hdrol at a 50/50/75/75 split with cycle support the whole time.

or

tren/epi.... spawn at 90/30 for four weeks.

also i really want one tht doesnt affect my libido as much and on the last week is fine but as long as post cylce i will get my erection back full strentgh in 2 weeks would be nice.

Also no injectibles.....and low suppresssion...


Thanks alot
 
A bunch of my friends did their first cycles with epidrol and had success. You wont see the same effects as you would with superdrol but it is healthier and safer. Also, remeber that doses give diminishing returns, double the dose isnt double the gains, all that does is lead to harsh side effects. start with a mild ph
 
Dan 55 said:
A bunch of my friends did their first cycles with epidrol and had success. You wont see the same effects as you would with superdrol but it is healthier and safer. Also, remeber that doses give diminishing returns, double the dose isnt double the gains, all that does is lead to harsh side effects. start with a mild ph
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read the rules and stop posting in this section under 21
 
No need to dose the Nolva that high! 20/20/10/10 is standard.

//CC
 
"Cycle assist" and "pct assist" are products made to keep urself healthy (liver, BP, heart, ect) while on cycle. Search it, they are easily found available.
And hdrol ftw
 
Pmag is a gret starter... i used Epi as 1st cycle then Pmag as 2nd... Would reccomend to use pmag as 1st cycle, it has ZERO sides (when used responsibly)
 
Heres my plan...let me know wht you think.

cylce assist for 2 weeks
then hdrol 50/50/75/75 with cylce assist.
then pct assist. with t911. and nolva 20/20/10/10

hows that? do you even need nolva with hdrol or could you do it with over the counter stuff?
 
If you have the nolva on hand, why not hdrol for 5 weeks @ 50/50/75/75/100? Even 75 in the second week. You have the SERM, make it worth using it.

Just my 2 cents....
 
Umm people say use epi for a first cycle all the time but it can still give you a ton of sides, blood preasure headaches suck
 
Mick81 said:
If you have the nolva on hand, why not hdrol for 5 weeks @ 50/50/75/75/100? Even 75 in the second week. You have the SERM, make it worth using it.

Just my 2 cents....
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This is a good idea, but pay attention to the sides at that high of a dose. Even at my weight, I can't hang with 100 mg.

Using a SERM will help your gains stick, prevent problems and expedite recoverey. You don't have to use one for a short run of hdrol, but you'll be glad you did.

Also, avoid Epi if hairloss is an issue.
 
Since you mentioned Spawn as one of your options, I will put in my .02.
Our stats are pretty similar, as far as physically, but i'm a few years older than you. I ran Spawn as my first cycle. My BF% was much higher than 12% in the beginning, and I lost a ton of fat (I used Arson for 2 weeks during weeks 3&4 of PCT). I enjoyed Spawn a lot, and I'm doing it again. I'm not super-knowlegdeable on the whole subject, but from my experience with it, and from what I've read and seen in others, Spawn is pretty damned good. I would recommend it.
The only sides I experienced on my first cycle was a little bit of shrinkage, but that was remedied during PCT.
Good luck either way.
 
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